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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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Millet question:

Never had much luck with cold soaks. Would colonise extremely slowly compared to soaked and boiled rye.

Was speaking to someone about this and they said its something to do with the millet here in the UK.

Wondering if a hot soak would be any better?

I need to produce large amounts of grain spawn - if I could get away with no drying with optimal hydration and colonisation speeds, that would be fantastic.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog] * 2
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Arkyhog said:
I do it the same way! If you shine a flashlight on the back of the lid, you can spot any tiny gaps around the seal. Believe me, it’s a bummer when you take a grain jar out of the pressure cooker and it’s way wetter than the others because of a tiny hole didn't seal.






Ooooo sexy pro tip, I'll be checking my lids, thanks Arkyhog :rockon:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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I'm pressure cooking my PF Tek jars right now, I have a TFal 22qt PC. I know these PCs are kind of garbage, I'm planning on returning it ASAP but I wanted to at least try it once. I want to get a Presto once I return this one.

Anyways, My question is, should it be hissing once it hits 15psi? I dropped the heat once it started hissing and it hasn't stopped hissing. It's maintaining a solid 15psi pressure which is nice, but I'm worried all the water will steam out of the dang thing.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jeffreykite] * 4
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jeffreykite said:
I'm pressure cooking my PF Tek jars right now, I have a TFal 22qt PC. I know these PCs are kind of garbage, I'm planning on returning it ASAP but I wanted to at least try it once. I want to get a Presto once I return this one.

Anyways, My question is, should it be hissing once it hits 15psi? I dropped the heat once it started hissing and it hasn't stopped hissing. It's maintaining a solid 15psi pressure which is nice, but I'm worried all the water will steam out of the dang thing.



Since it doesn't have a jiggler, it has to vent during, so hissing is to be expected, RoscoeReturns have used the T-fal and said it worked good, no need to return it. You know how much water you added before cycle, check again after, I'm pretty certain it'll be fine, I was terrified the first time I used my presto, was sure the whole thing would blow up any minute :muppet:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
jeffreykite said:
I'm pressure cooking my PF Tek jars right now, I have a TFal 22qt PC. I know these PCs are kind of garbage, I'm planning on returning it ASAP but I wanted to at least try it once. I want to get a Presto once I return this one.

Anyways, My question is, should it be hissing once it hits 15psi? I dropped the heat once it started hissing and it hasn't stopped hissing. It's maintaining a solid 15psi pressure which is nice, but I'm worried all the water will steam out of the dang thing.



Since it doesn't have a jiggler, it has to vent during, so hissing is to be expected, RoscoeReturns have used the T-fal and said it worked good, no need to return it. You know how much water you added before cycle, check again after, I'm pretty certain it'll be fine, I was terrified the first time I used my presto, was sure the whole thing would blow up any minute :muppet:



Thanks for the re-assurance. I've got 10 minutes left and I still hear it boiling so I think I'll be good!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jeffreykite]
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jeffreykite said:
Thanks for the re-assurance. I've got 10 minutes left and I still hear it boiling so I think I'll be good!



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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Is it safe to eat agar when its fully grown with clean mycelium? I bounced a slice of the lip of the jar onto the SAB so can't use it but was thinking about eating it. I decided not to because I don't want a tolerance im expecting mushrooms in less than a week. It probably wouldn't make me trip anyway though.:shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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I don't think the mycelium for common species contains enough psilocybin to do anything if eaten.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chillshroom]
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I think someone with the resources should look into decomposing manure as further as it can go using springtails, since they eat manure and shrooms they could prevent some % of contam since it would mean there would be less spores of the killed molds/fungi,also since they decompose manure, it would mean that the proteins and the like would be in simpler shapes probably easier to digest to the shroom, of course one would need to extract as many as possible for future use* and then just kill the rest, probably via pasteurization, that would be quite a high success rate, but theres other maybe more humane methods, idk, depends on what u think about killing springtails after u gave them a life and then took it away
Anyway, thanks, will try in probably a few years, so if anyone can try in thw meanwhile, go ahead, willing to help however i can(not much, broke from latin america)

Edited by Ikarus21 (01/10/26 10:22 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ikarus21]
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What is the purpose?  Just to speed up the composting process?

Unless you are growing button mushrooms which need manure to be more broken down, things like cubes do just fine on "aged" manure without any composting at all. The aging process just kicks out a lot of the ammonia and other N compounds out as gasses so it is not as hot.

What is the point of the springtails?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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They are really good at keeping terrariums free of mold, fungus and decaying matter/poop, which mean that pasteurized substrate could have a lower contam rate if it prevented any fungi or mold growing while storing, recollectig or drying, specially nutritious pasteurized substrate or even pc'd.
And since they decompose manure, it cpuld lead to a higher/faster absorption rate by our desired mycelium. One would need to get rid of 100% of them before spawning tho

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 2
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B Traven said:
I think there's a tendency, when getting into something new that involves unfamiliar equipment, to misunderstand the significance of said equipment. Perhaps just calling it all "tools" would be more accurate. Even a pressure cooker is still just a tool, a fancy pot with a sealing lid.

Most things, at the end of the day, are like a pencil. If you write something that sucks or get an answer wrong on a test, it's not because you need a better pencil.



Nokumana said:
Could someone help a newbie out and post a link to your favorite plastic wide mouth canning jar lids? I need to mod some lids for an upcoming grain run and I am pulling my hair out trying to find lids that are heat-rated to withstand pressure canning temperatures.

Many thanks in advance 🙏



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BF3TKBGD


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 3
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Quote:
B Traven said:<snip>

Most things, at the end of the day, are like a pencil. If you write something that sucks or get an answer wrong on a test, it's not because you need a better pencil.


:whathesaid:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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So I ran my first set of grain jars through the PC yesterday. I used BOD's Oat Tek. I'm a little worried that I didn't let the grains dry out enough before loading them into the jars. There's a little condensation inside a few of the jars after the PC run. This is the next morning when they are stone cold. Am I good or should I do it again?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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They do look quite wet, but i dont see the harm in trying to use them now that you already made it, definitely dry it out more for next run.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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@nok - it is somewhat like what happens with freshly poured plates...over the next few days much of that excess condensation will be absorbed. You're good to go!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird]
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flapping_bird said:
@nok - it is somewhat like what happens with freshly poured plates...over the next few days much of that excess condensation will be absorbed. You're good to go!



Ahh. Didn't think about it like that but I will keep an eye on them. That's encouraging.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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I also started with that oak tek & used it for about 18 months or so before switching to red winter wheat. Now, I just boil, rinse with cold water, shake 'em off a bit in the collander and load up the jars. Has been pretty bulletproof for me. Can recommend both oats and wheat. Main reason for me to switch to wheat was for drying colonized grains, but oats do great for that as well...just a slightly larger grain unit size.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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Even when letting my Rye berries sit for hours they can come out
Looking kinda wet.

Just usually let em sit for a couple days. Give em a shake if not ready for inoculation to redistribute the moisture and tend to be fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 2
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Nokumana said:
So I ran my first set of grain jars through the PC yesterday. I used BOD's Oat Tek. I'm a little worried that I didn't let the grains dry out enough before loading them into the jars. There's a little condensation inside a few of the jars after the PC run. This is the next morning when they are stone cold. Am I good or should I do it again?




A bit wet but usually IME they will absorb the excess moisture plus whatever
you inoculated them with probably will too. With temps at with whatever species you are cultivating.
More importantly is getting off all that grain-starch during rinse after simmering. Don't worry about it now, but now you know! Your photo looks normal after cooking, and after hours too.

I always shake grain jars outta the pressure cooker, still warm or cold from cooling down. It distributes the moisture around :crazy:


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