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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jumbodit] * 2
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jumbodit said:
I have a 40q plastic tub. Should I use it as a monotub for fruiting or a SAB? How big does a monotub for fruiting need to be? I am a noob.



Monotub, 40 is tiny for a SAB.

This one is somewhere in the neighborhood of 80q.  I’ve used it so much the numbers are rubbed off the bottom :shrug:



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird]
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flapping_bird said:
AntaresWeevil said:
What are the different purposes for using high nutrient vs low nutrient agar? Does mycelium jump from agar to grain quicker with either one of those?



the nutrient density affects how the colony behaves on agar … if it is a bit lower than it prefers, it will spread out quickly in search of nutrients. High nutrient density can cause it to just stick in one spot and pig out without moving much.



This was good advice because it also helps explain that if I birthed my cakes too soon the shrooms won't have the proper root structure formed to support fruits. My jars started colonizing fast but I saw big white marshmallow mycelium forming and got scared so I birthed them in case it was contamination. My Panaeolus mycelium jars looks a little different than some of the other pictures on here, and I had to search more specifically. My new jars I have let the marshmallow mycelium continue to completely colonize everything, and I'm hoping that this will be the root strcture the shrooms need in order to support fruits. I'm not even going to mess with them until I visibly see several shrooms pressing against the sides, hopefully, in case the middle layer wasn't getting fully digested.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon] * 2
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That is absolutely not what happened with your jars.  They were made improperly in the first place and dealing with contamination.

Did you know if you had followed cron’s advice you would be harvesting cincs right now?


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
That is absolutely not what happened with your jars.  They were made improperly in the first place and dealing with contamination.

Did you know if you had followed cron’s advice you would be harvesting cincs right now?



Even if he was successful on a box of cakes he'd be lucky to pull enough for a trip , even cubes average about 3.5 grams per cake , probably half a gram if your lucky per cake for cincs I really don't see any upside here


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I may upload a pic tomorrow if it still looks good, but one of those limbo cakes now has like 3 small pins popping out the bottom all together. The cake looks like absolute by TC standards, possible cobweb has covered the entire cake but it may just be whispy myc. They don't look aborted, but they don't look like they're doing anything. They are just limbo pins I mist every 2 or 3 days once a day just to see if anything happens. Maybe you guys can confirm if they are actually pins or not.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
Mr Piggy said:
That is absolutely not what happened with your jars.  They were made improperly in the first place and dealing with contamination.

Did you know if you had followed cron’s advice you would be harvesting cincs right now?



Even if he was successful on a box of cakes he'd be lucky to pull enough for a trip , even cubes average about 3.5 grams per cake , probably half a gram if your lucky per cake for cincs I really don't see any upside here



Is that just because cincts don't put out a lot? I know these are definitely not cinctulus, they are more along the lines of a olivaceus if that makes a difference in growing quantity. But I'm not 100% that it's olivaceus either, and it could be Panaeolus subfirmus, maybe even Panaeolus sphinctrinus. But it's hard to find as detailed information on these species but are still very much psychoactive.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Okay I think I am sort of an advanced grower, maybe :lol:

But...
What's the deal with subtropicalis/semperviva?
Why do some people say they have 3 month old spawn still viable?
Why do others say spawn to manure substrate and case for fruits in just weeks instead??
What's the thing with them also, they contaminate easily? Adding to the difficulty?

I've seen a few write ups/growlogs but none mention keeping old spawn.

Figuring out a lot of stuff "on my own" was fun with Tampanensis, but
Subtropis seem more confusing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie]
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Hi,

I just opened a year old vaccuum sealed bag with dried cubes. A bag of 30grams. When they were sealed a year ago, they were crisp dry. But now they are a bit soft, though some larger parts still crack. So I conclude they were not 100% dried. No holes in the plastic by the way. As I want to give them away for microdosing, I'd like to know whether it's safe and viable (like: still active).

So 3 questions:
1: are they safe to consume?
2: are they still active?
3: is it normal a year old vaccuum sealed bag content gets soft?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon]
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tultedspoon said:
cronicr said:
Mr Piggy said:
That is absolutely not what happened with your jars.  They were made improperly in the first place and dealing with contamination.

Did you know if you had followed cron’s advice you would be harvesting cincs right now?



Even if he was successful on a box of cakes he'd be lucky to pull enough for a trip , even cubes average about 3.5 grams per cake , probably half a gram if your lucky per cake for cincs I really don't see any upside here



Is that just because cincts don't put out a lot? I know these are definitely not cinctulus, they are more along the lines of a olivaceus if that makes a difference in growing quantity. But I'm not 100% that it's olivaceus either, and it could be Panaeolus subfirmus, maybe even Panaeolus sphinctrinus. But it's hard to find as detailed information on these species but are still very much psychoactive.



Just pans in general, there aren't any pan species that yield well in comparison


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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Oh dam Tree Frog had some really nice grows and others had some nice full trays full on here, but I understand trays like that come with a lot of practice. I will keep an eye out for cubes next season as I continue my Panaeolus ventures.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon]
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Even completely full trays weigh nothing by comparison, just the nature of the beast with pans


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 3
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cybork said:
Hi,

I just opened a year old vaccuum sealed bag with dried cubes. A bag of 30grams. When they were sealed a year ago, they were crisp dry. But now they are a bit soft, though some larger parts still crack. So I conclude they were not 100% dried. No holes in the plastic by the way. As I want to give them away for microdosing, I'd like to know whether it's safe and viable (like: still active).

So 3 questions:
1: are they safe to consume?
2: are they still active?
3: is it normal a year old vaccuum sealed bag content gets soft?



1: probably
2: I dunno, take some?
3: I dunno, bags of all kinds fail for me.  I only use mason jars with two part sealing lids for this reason.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie] * 2
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Wedgie said:
Okay I think I am sort of an advanced grower, maybe :lol:

But...
What's the deal with subtropicalis/semperviva?
Why do some people say they have 3 month old spawn still viable?
Why do others say spawn to manure substrate and case for fruits in just weeks instead??
What's the thing with them also, they contaminate easily? Adding to the difficulty?

I've seen a few write ups/growlogs but none mention keeping old spawn.

Figuring out a lot of stuff "on my own" was fun with Tampanensis, but
Subtropis seem more confusing.



I left mine in my jars too long and they started looking funky, so I top fruited them with coir.  Turns out splotchy old jars are okay?  I got a couple good flushes before trich got em.



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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie] * 7
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Wedgie said:
Okay I think I am sort of an advanced grower, maybe :lol:

But...
What's the deal with subtropicalis/semperviva?
Why do some people say they have 3 month old spawn still viable?
Why do others say spawn to manure substrate and case for fruits in just weeks instead??
What's the thing with them also, they contaminate easily? Adding to the difficulty?

I've seen a few write ups/growlogs but none mention keeping old spawn.

Figuring out a lot of stuff "on my own" was fun with Tampanensis, but
Subtropis seem more confusing.



Old spawn is not a problem with semperviva, but it’s not necessary. The mycelium is also active, and the longer the spawn jars age the more potent the mycelium, so some allow their grain jars to sit for many months to harvest the grain to consume.

It has not been my experience that they contaminate any easier than other species.

Semps fruit just fine from coir only substrates. I’ve also grown them on manure/straw with good results. No noticeable difference in time table for either one. Conditions seem to determine time to fruit more than anything else IME.

They do like a casing after the sub is fully colonized, but will fruit without one. My yields have been better with a casing.

Check out Melgo’s great write up on semps, Here.

Here are some jars I inoculated in May. These photos were taken at the end of September just before I sent them to coir only substrates in a mono. They fruited just fine at the end of November.






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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 4
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Ive got some 8mo old semp jars and they definitely make a slow pilgrimage to funk town. Ive seen posts of some truly vile looking shit that was just aged semp spawn.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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I've been wanting to try out the whole myceliated semp flour thing but those old jars look fucking rank

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman] * 1
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:whathesaid:

I find old clean semp jars to be difficult to distinguish from something id never eat.

I guess I need more experience with the species


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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What would make a presto 23qt cap out at 12.5 psi?

Only thing I can see is maybe the weight could be tightened up, I can see some gaps.

Still, super weird. I'll run it for 2:30 to 3 hours instead and hopefully that'll be fine


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I find old clean semp jars to be difficult to distinguish from something id never eat.

I guess I need more experience with the species



I dont think I want to eat it without boiling, anyway. There may still be risks, but it's better than eating it raw. Some of the stuff I've seen - idk how you'd ever know for sure. Like ya said, that's above my abilities. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
What would make a presto 23qt cap out at 12.5 psi?

Only thing I can see is maybe the weight could be tightened up, I can see some gaps.

Still, super weird. I'll run it for 2:30 to 3 hours instead and hopefully that'll be fine



Mojave had his weight get wollard out, reducing the weight, which reduced the pressure build up. Check your seal on the lid. That's probably a more likely point of failure, but idk what it looks like when that goes bad. I would guess it would be pretty noticeable, but I haven't experienced that.


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