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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird]
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flapping_bird said:
FWIW, I get by with a nailhole in the original metal lid, covrered with two layers of 1” squares of micropore tape…I scrape it off and replace the tape every several runs through the PC, but its worked very well for me so far.

I’m working up to trying unmodified lids, but not there yet.



Yeah, unmodified seems like a good route but I'll get annoyed at all the twisting, and the rust is already killing me on my sourdough starter jars, so...plastic.  It seems like the SFD's are the financial bottleneck in this hobby (other than FFU construction), but I'm thinking it's worth the spend for the peace of mind.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 4
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Nokumana said:
Is the main reason that people don't use full-size widemouth filters underneath the lid with just a 3/8 inch hole drilled in the lid because of cost? It's just cheaper to cut out a bunch of quarter-sized discs that can be added to multiple jars?



Pretty much yea.

There are hug quality differences in sfds of all prices. You've gotta kinda just find a good one.

Fuck fungi perfecti.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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I used micropore covered tyvek lids for a long time and still would if i didnt have a surplus of sfds


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
I used micropore covered tyvek lids for a long time and still would if i didnt have a surplus of sfds



Well, I mean...if that surplus is bugging you too much, you can always send 'em to me :rofl2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Nokumana said:
Is the main reason that people don't use full-size widemouth filters underneath the lid with just a 3/8 inch hole drilled in the lid because of cost? It's just cheaper to cut out a bunch of quarter-sized discs that can be added to multiple jars?



Pretty much yea.

There are hug quality differences in sfds of all prices. You've gotta kinda just find a good one.

Fuck fungi perfecti.


Haaaaahahahahahaha


Also, how about these?  https://microppose.com/products/synthetic-filter-lid-disc?sacode=992nf2&utm_source=simple-affiliate&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=fungaia+%286981900533910%29


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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an inexpensive hack would be to use a piece cut from facemasks, like the blue surgical masks the we have to put on when we go to a clinic or whatnot…just put that down over the hole and cement into place with silicone and let cure for 24h. If you can find used n95 masks, so much the better.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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I use these filter discs also from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1D3GY2?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4&th=1. Haven't had any issues with them yet, I think I've reused them before, or you can discard them. I've also done polyfill and DIY tyvek filters in my lids before. I'm lazy and like to just grab a new disc when needed. They're only $8.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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flapping_bird said:
an inexpensive hack would be to use a piece cut from facemasks, like the blue surgical masks the we have to put on when we go to a clinic or whatnot…just put that down over the hole and cement into place with silicone and let cure for 24h. If you can find used n95 masks, so much the better.



Well, as it happens, I work in the healthcare industry and have access to N95's, and use them at work all the time.  I guess I could take used ones home after I use them, cut out discs, silicone to jars and sterilize...and, as they say down under, Bob's your uncle!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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funkmastakush said:
I use these filter discs also from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1D3GY2?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4&th=1. Haven't had any issues with them yet, I think I've reused them before, or you can discard them. I've also done polyfill and DIY tyvek filters in my lids before. I'm lazy and like to just grab a new disc when needed. They're only $8.



Do you silicone them as well, or just rely on the adhesive they come with?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Hey y’all, I just got back in town from a trip and went to check my spawn jars for my main project right now, and wanted to check on my side grow since I had just put it through a punisher cycle with the dish sprayer. The first flush was completely fine but now it seems to have grown an overlay of trich (in guessing) and i’m wondering what caused the contam, if it was the method for another flush or something else. I believe it to have had verticillium during the first flush but was told it’s wouldn’t be drastic. Could that have escalated towards trich because i punished it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird]
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I doubt N95 would be fine enough. The SFDs filter out anything larger than like 0.3 micron, at 99.97% efficiency, which would be pretty hard to breathe through.

OTOH spores tend to be bigger than a micron, so it might sort of work. :shrug:

I'd just use polyfil (tightly stuffed through the hole) if I were going for an ultra cheap filter. I have a bunch of commercial jar lids (pickle jars, Tasso's sundried tomatoes) modified this way.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: toadking]
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I’m seeing new mycelium but not the jade green of trich…am I missing it in the photo? Trich seems to pop up for me only when my subs get stressed from being too dry - jist my experience, so far.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
funkmastakush said:
I use these filter discs also from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1D3GY2?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4&th=1. Haven't had any issues with them yet, I think I've reused them before, or you can discard them. I've also done polyfill and DIY tyvek filters in my lids before. I'm lazy and like to just grab a new disc when needed. They're only $8.



Do you silicone them as well, or just rely on the adhesive they come with?



I just use the adhesive, no silicone needed which would be more of a permanent filter. So far the filter discs I linked have been holding up well for me. I just think it's easier than making my own and they're really cheap, so why not. I have also gone the unmodified route (just a plain lid, no holes or anything, lid partially unscrewed for air). Or I've done just filter holes and cracked the lids for inoculation with a syringe, with no SHIP. So far I don't mind any of these methods and have had pretty good success with everything. Just need to ensure your sterile technique is there in the SAB (I'm too poor for a flow hood and too stupid to build one my own).


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
I doubt N95 would be fine enough. The SFDs filter out anything larger than like 0.3 micron, at 99.97% efficiency, which would be pretty hard to breathe through.

OTOH spores tend to be bigger than a micron, so it might sort of work. :shrug:

I'd just use polyfil (tightly stuffed through the hole) if I were going for an ultra cheap filter. I have a bunch of commercial jar lids (pickle jars, Tasso's sundried tomatoes) modified this way.



Forgive me, father I have sinned... I did a quick AI search using perplexity and asked it if N95 was equivalent to a 0.3 µm filter and the answer came back yes. I'm not sure I would trust it, but to me it's worth digging a little deeper to find out.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird] * 2
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Trichoderma is just part of nature's cleanup crew. It's EVERYwhere. It's one of the main reasons we have soil instead of just piled-up rotting organic matter. It takes over when a mycelial network is weakened by something else. A truly clean block of spawn can get the shit beat out of it a thousand different ways and still either just sort of dissolve into a pile of nothing or shrivel up into a mummified version of itself. If trich turns up, something else let it in. It thrives on newly decaying material, e.g., mycelium that's being bumped off by bacteria on a cell-by-cell basis.

And yeah, it's hard to tell from that pic whether it's trich myc or just weird new growth around the areas that are drying out a lot. Either way, I personally would pick all that and then see what happened next. I probably wouldn't have high hopes for future fruits, though, because that's definitely at least giving me bacterial vibes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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Splittinghairs said:
Pasty’s Easy Lid Tek

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22767847/fpart/1/vc/1



You make a convincing argument with Pasty's tek, for sure.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
Phaethon said:
I doubt N95 would be fine enough. The SFDs filter out anything larger than like 0.3 micron, at 99.97% efficiency, which would be pretty hard to breathe through.

OTOH spores tend to be bigger than a micron, so it might sort of work. :shrug:

I'd just use polyfil (tightly stuffed through the hole) if I were going for an ultra cheap filter. I have a bunch of commercial jar lids (pickle jars, Tasso's sundried tomatoes) modified this way.



Forgive me, father I have sinned... I did a quick AI search using perplexity and asked it if N95 was equivalent to a 0.3 µm filter and the answer came back yes. I'm not sure I would trust it, but to me it's worth digging a little deeper to find out.



Interesting, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N95_respirator does note that it's meant to filter down to 0.3 microns - today I learned. But, 95% is a big difference from 99.97%...and the masks do not seem to be well regulated as far as meeting their filtration claims.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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True, but I wonder if the 95% has more to do with mask fit on the face of the wearer rather than the efficiency of the actual material. I actually have no idea but I will ask the lab personnel the next time I'm at work.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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What transfers would you take from these 3 plates








The last plate has visible blueing, idk if this is something i should be looking for (more potency? it is ape genetics) or if i should just stick to whatever looks more rhizo.

Any advice is appreciated :smile:

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