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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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how do i know when an enigma-like-mutant is ready to harvest? i have some omni and caramel popcorn that are finning and blobbing atm


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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tryptkaloids said:
Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


It would ferment fine, just hella carbonated. I don't think it would explode though. Remember that SFD is a two way air flow and fermentation is almost always done one way.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


I bet it would work pretty decent for bacterial fermentation, like pickles and sauerkraut. Traditionally was done in open air, just under the liquid level. Just a thought.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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Yeah. My enemy is acetobacter when I ferment and it's prolly what you would be using in that situation.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


For lactofermentation, at least, those silicone flat lids (they go on with a regular jar ring) with a pinhole or two are great airlocks. They bulge a bit but don't explode, letting enough air out for safety without letting any back in, ensuring that the fermentation remains anaerobic. For lactofermentation you don't want two-way gas exchange.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017DTW5A8

No idea whether that setup would be suitable for other kinds of fermentation.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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Maybe silly but in the event I need to mist my tub can I use plain old tap water in my mister?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle]
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Yes.

I have read of some cases where certain wells cause issues but largely no ussue.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
tryptkaloids said:
Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


For lactofermentation, at least, those silicone flat lids (they go on with a regular jar ring) with a pinhole or two are great airlocks. They bulge a bit but don't explode, letting enough air out for safety without letting any back in, ensuring that the fermentation remains anaerobic. For lactofermentation you don't want two-way gas exchange.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017DTW5A8

No idea whether that setup would be suitable for other kinds of fermentation.


Im making cider. I have cheesecloth to use, just had to take a ring from some grain jars and the question popped in my head


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


For sure
That's basically what I already do but with the trivet not raised at all. I definitely have to raise the trivet to the three court line and then add the extra water half way up the jars if i wanna do 3+ hours. And then do less jars.

I guess it would be worth it if I still end up with more grain than I would if I did 10qt jars like usual.  Ill have to crunch the numbers and see.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Imagine shaking tho lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Lol. I hadn't actually. Another Good point.

I've got tiny hands too.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
tryptkaloids said:
You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


For sure
That's basically what I already do but with the trivet not raised at all. I definitely have to raise the trivet to the three court line and then add the extra water half way up the jars if i wanna do 3+ hours. And then do less jars.

I guess it would be worth it if I still end up with more grain than I would if I did 10qt jars like usual.  Ill have to crunch the numbers and see.


Why so much water? What kind of PC do you have?

I routinely do 3-1/2 to 4 hour runs on 3 quarts of water.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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What PSI are you running? 4 quarts had maybe 200ml left after 1 hour 20 minutes going in between 15-16 PSI in a 24 quart pressure cooker for me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
tryptkaloids said:
You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


For sure
That's basically what I already do but with the trivet not raised at all. I definitely have to raise the trivet to the three court line and then add the extra water half way up the jars if i wanna do 3+ hours. And then do less jars.

I guess it would be worth it if I still end up with more grain than I would if I did 10qt jars like usual.  Ill have to crunch the numbers and see.



Bags will process more grain per cycle than any number of jars...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 2
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CaptainTrips420 said:
What PSI are you running? 4 quarts had maybe 200ml left after 1 hour 20 minutes going in between 15-16 PSI in a 24 quart pressure cooker for me.


:hewut:

I put 3 qt in my presto and after 15 minutes of venting and 2 hours and 30 minutes cycle around 17-18 PSI I might loose up to 1/2 qt, half of it probably during venting.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
tryptkaloids said:
You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


For sure
That's basically what I already do but with the trivet not raised at all. I definitely have to raise the trivet to the three court line and then add the extra water half way up the jars if i wanna do 3+ hours. And then do less jars.

I guess it would be worth it if I still end up with more grain than I would if I did 10qt jars like usual.  Ill have to crunch the numbers and see.



Bags will process more grain per cycle than any number of jars...


I think some people might be afraid of the cost of impulse sealers. That's what keeps me from trying to make bags however I found this https://shroomsupply.com/lab-supplies/mushroom-bag-clamp with that you can use agar on bags and wouldn't need the sealer.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
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CaptainTrips420 said:
What PSI are you running? 4 quarts had maybe 200ml left after 1 hour 20 minutes going in between 15-16 PSI in a 24 quart pressure cooker for me.


17 psi in my Presto, 15 psi in my T-Fal. If you’re using that much water during your PC run you’re running it a little hot. You don’t want a loud, spitting, hissing, rocking weight or relief valve. Dial back the heat just a little bit and maintain pressure without losing all that steam.

CaptainTrips420 said:
LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
tryptkaloids said:
You can submerge the jars by up to atleast halfway


For sure
That's basically what I already do but with the trivet not raised at all. I definitely have to raise the trivet to the three court line and then add the extra water half way up the jars if i wanna do 3+ hours. And then do less jars.

I guess it would be worth it if I still end up with more grain than I would if I did 10qt jars like usual.  Ill have to crunch the numbers and see.



Bags will process more grain per cycle than any number of jars...


I think some people might be afraid of the cost of impulse sealers. That's what keeps me from trying to make bags however I found this https://shroomsupply.com/lab-supplies/mushroom-bag-clamp with that you can use agar on bags and wouldn't need the sealer.


My impulse sealer broke. Now I use clips or tape. 1” binder clips are my favorite.


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How much really fits in a 00 capsule?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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tryptkaloids said:
Has anyone ever tried using a grain jar lid for fermentation? I doubt a sfd will let enough gas out but you never know


i think it could
work with a big enough jar if you only fill
halfway.  it could bubble up and get the filter wet and ruin it.  othet than that i dont see why it wouldnt work but it might actuallly let too much gass out.

this is a kloakk question.


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