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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
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pre-emptively enlighten me any way you want



Bruh, they linked the data already.  Absolutely wild that you're still out here like "enlighten me if you dare"
:hahthatsrich:



lol right? and you know he's already primed to dismiss the results of the study with his "I tend to go off the pulse of the nation itself" - aka vibes and confirmation bias


@FoolOfElysium

I don't think you've ever articulated a position beyond 'big things are coming and you'll regret choosing the wrong side - just wait!' - but I don't need to define the specifics in order to point out that your rhetoric on this forum has been promising violent retribution to your political opponents. Maybe it's true that inside, you consider revenge to mean "see people's jaw drop" but when everything you post instead refers to hangings and military tribunals, it doesn't matter what's in your head. Even in this post, you decided to conclude with the desire to see your political opponents hanged - and again, it doesn't matter if you justify this by saying 'they've committed crimes against humanity' or 'we will bring the receipts', it's still promising violent retribution to your political opponents - in fact, creating legal justification for political retribution is incredibly common if we look at historical oppressive regimes.

Why are you so ashamed of your beliefs? I have no problem being upfront about my fringe politics, or the various illegal and violent methods of political resistance that I endorse. I know that fascists utilizing entryism will often choose to 'hide their power level' but I get the vibe that your attempts to claim you are a left-leaning centrist who abhors political violence is done more for your own benefit - you actually believe your lies even if very few people on this subforum do. I guess that ties back into the earlier comments about cognitive dissidence, ie. you trying to reconcile the contradiction between your self-image and your politics.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
mushboy said:
FoolOfElysium said:
‘Hey, we don’t do that here.’”




hence the HUGE effort to try to distance a homegrown ..'terrorist' and label them as anything but an outsider. one of THEM.

its aint working to well is it?



Is there going to be a point in time where we can just respond to fool with nothing but fool quotes?

We have to be getting close.



Something is definitely getting close.



@Shive. I'm actually taking a break from the shroomey for a while and am gonna let things play out. I keep getting distracted here instead of finishing my Baldur's Gate campaign. :lol:

When I come back my first post will in reply to your article, as promised. Time simply keeps eluding me. However, I don't like the last things you've said to me here. Please don't project shame onto me when it doesn't exist. You should be able to make an argument without these false assumptions. They make your arguments weaker. Same with blanket statements (I'd argue bullshit lies)  that I've "never" articulated a positions beside XYZ. That's untrue by any metric. I'm not perfect. Nobody here is, but I can't work with these rigid  blanket statements. That's all I have to say about that for now.

In the meantime, I'd like to reiterate to forum one final time that the left seems to have absolutely no clue the can of worms they just opened due to their behavior over the last few days. Our country is returning to sanity, so people who have gotten away with the shittiest of behavior (like celebrating the death of an innocent man with a family), aren't used to the things they say now actually having consequences.

We're entering a MAJOR FAFO period in this Country for the left. Historically, it might be the biggest one we've ever seen.

They won't lose their freedom of speech, but they're all losing their jobs and the respect of the normies who aren't politically obsessed. It's like boomerang cancel culture, except instead of digging up things people may have said or did 1, 5, 10 years ago, we were all privileged to watch it all play out in real time.

And I'll say it bluntly .*anyone* that celebrated the death of in innocent man should never, EVER have political power in this country EVER again... and MAGA is going to make damn sure of it now.

Cheers. Enjoy the fucking ride.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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If Tyler Robinson gets the death penalty for shooting and killing Charlie Kirk then surely Vance Boelter should also get the death penalty for shooting and killing Melissa and Mark Hortman, does anyone here agree with me or not?

If anything Boelter should get a harsher penalty for killing 2 people (and a dog).

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
Our country is returning to sanity



:whatnonono:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: KevinDontWave]
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if he means from kirk no longer spewing hateful rhetoric then ... yah:shrug: it just might be.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
Baby_Hitler said:
Testosterone level is kinda meaningless. Testosterone sensitivity is just as big of a factor. Some people need more testosterone for the same effect.



Testosterone is measured by the amount of Benjamins you have to pay the ex cop for injections at your nearest body building gym. It’s less about the testosterone you naturally have and more about standing around half naked flexing your muscles and asking the dude beside you how swole you are.

That’s how you know you’re a real man and not some pussy trans dude.

So beat it with your science and reason, okay.



I used to run in a gym nearby. It was wild watching some of those dudes in front of the mirrors.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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Lmao
:batlol:

Forgive us if we don't hold our breath while we wait for you to read a document longer than a meme (reposted by Trump himself, probably!).

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Warrk]
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Warrk said:
If Tyler Robinson gets the death penalty for shooting and killing Charlie Kirk then surely Vance Boelter should also get the death penalty for shooting and killing Melissa and Mark Hortman, does anyone here agree with me or not?

If anything Boelter should get a harsher penalty for killing 2 people (and a dog).



Then, they stepped up security, pacifists against guns.

:shoedick:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
@Shive. I'm actually taking a break from the shroomey for a while and am gonna let things play out. I keep getting distracted here instead of finishing my Baldur's Gate campaign. :lol:

When I come back my first post will in reply to your article, as promised. Time simply keeps eluding me. However, I don't like the last things you've said to me here. Please don't project shame onto me when it doesn't exist. You should be able to make an argument without these false assumptions. They make your arguments weaker. Same with blanket statements (I'd argue bullshit lies)  that I've "never" articulated a positions beside XYZ. That's untrue by any metric. I'm not perfect. Nobody here is, but I can't work with these rigid  blanket statements. That's all I have to say about that for now.



"When I come back my first post will in reply to your article"

(x) doubt

Now look, I understand wanting to examine the methods of a study before accepting its conclusion, and I don't think we need to dedicate hours of academic research before participating in discussions here - but I literally quoted the relevant paragraph to you, and instead of adjusting your claim - or at least pausing your rhetoric until you can examine the criticism - you've continued repeating your false claims about the ideological left and political violence. Literally the second half of your post, after promising to eventually review the data, is just you continuing to repeat this falsehood. These aren't the actions of someone who is concerned with the veracity of their claims.

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"Same with blanket statements (I'd argue bullshit lies)  that I've "never" articulated a positions beside XYZ. That's untrue by any metric."

Prove me wrong and link to a post where you expand on your concept of political retribution then.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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I don't understand why the fool hasn't been universally ignored yet. Attempting to engage something like him is a pointless endeavor. He appears to be incapable of reflection or a true dialogue, he just repeats his claim over and over despite what is presented against him. His actions are not those of someone debating to strengthen their knowledge and positions. Someone who is earnest in dialogue has to be willing to change their position when it is shown wrong and the only thing he cares for is imagining he is right.

I love being proven wrong, that is why I do my best to fully engage someone on every point they make. Being wrong means I get rid myself of errors, a far more valuable outcome than continuing to reinforce them. He is happy to suck his own farts so he ignores everything that counter his position, he makes obvious errors and omissions and when pointed out, he deflects or ignores, continuing to wallow in wrongness. Not once have I seen him concede even the most minor point despite being presented with overwhelming evidence from so many.

There is no point in displaying patience and effort on such a person.


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I keep it real because I think it is important that a highly esteemed individual such as myself keep it real lest they experience the dreaded spontaneous non-existance of no longer keeping it real. - Hagbard Celine

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: HagbardCeline] * 2
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im willing to admit that its fun to throw tomatoes at the bad act:shrug:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: HagbardCeline] * 5
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I always keep that in mind when responding to him, but it's a fine line between 'ignoring bad faith arguments' and 'allowing falsehoods to go unchallenged' - my balance is found in not exhausting myself trying to get him to change his beliefs, and instead crafting a response that meets my own satisfaction


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/zhuzh

human traffickers -> child traffickers
Operation Stargate individualized vaccines -> med beds

FoE is repeating Q-anon predictions, only a degree of separation away from campaign promises. It's not random ramblings.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 2
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Sunk cost is a hell of a drug. I wouldn't be too keen to shift an opinion either if I was pouring bad takes online 14 hours a day for years. Valid counter points are probably being discarded within the optic nerve before any processing centers lay a finger on it.


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* Smarts videos :teacher:
* :thumbup: Planet of the APES:thumbup:
 
I'm a fungal white supremacist.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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To you and mushboy, I suppose those are both fair answers, especially if you know what you are dealing with. Perhaps it is because I debate in earnest with the goal of clarifying or unveiling truth and expect others to as well. If I went in with different goals as you state, striking to balance as you do makes sense.


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I keep it real because I think it is important that a highly esteemed individual such as myself keep it real lest they experience the dreaded spontaneous non-existance of no longer keeping it real. - Hagbard Celine

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Smartattack]
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Smartattack said:
Sunk cost is a hell of a drug. I wouldn't be too keen to shift an opinion either if I was pouring bad takes online 14 hours a day for years. Valid counter points are probably being discarded within the optic nerve before any processing centers lay a finger on it.



In case I am all you have for a sitter, please go back to bed and think nice thoughts.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
ballsalsa said:
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pre-emptively enlighten me any way you want



Bruh, they linked the data already.  Absolutely wild that you're still out here like "enlighten me if you dare"
:hahthatsrich:



lol right? and you know he's already primed to dismiss the results of the study with his "I tend to go off the pulse of the nation itself" - aka vibes and confirmation bias


@FoolOfElysium

I don't think you've ever articulated a position beyond 'big things are coming and you'll regret choosing the wrong side - just wait!' - but I don't need to define the specifics in order to point out that your rhetoric on this forum has been promising violent retribution to your political opponents. Maybe it's true that inside, you consider revenge to mean "see people's jaw drop" but when everything you post instead refers to hangings and military tribunals, it doesn't matter what's in your head. Even in this post, you decided to conclude with the desire to see your political opponents hanged - and again, it doesn't matter if you justify this by saying 'they've committed crimes against humanity' or 'we will bring the receipts', it's still promising violent retribution to your political opponents - in fact, creating legal justification for political retribution is incredibly common if we look at historical oppressive regimes.

Why are you so ashamed of your beliefs? I have no problem being upfront about my fringe politics, or the various illegal and violent methods of political resistance that I endorse. I know that fascists utilizing entryism will often choose to 'hide their power level' but I get the vibe that your attempts to claim you are a left-leaning centrist who abhors political violence is done more for your own benefit - you actually believe your lies even if very few people on this subforum do. I guess that ties back into the earlier comments about cognitive dissidence, ie. you trying to reconcile the contradiction between your self-image and your politics.



The one time I asked him, a question and he went on a tangent about smoking weed with the the president of time warner. You can't have a serious reality based conversation with elyse.


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Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 3
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I posted a bunch of authoritarian type shit the Trump admin has done when asked.  Fool said he would research it later.  Later never came
:batlol:


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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Did you meme it? It's the only way to get through to him.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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Never though of that. Might work.


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