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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: Ancalagon]
    #3247268 - 10/12/04 02:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Mush, if you get the chance and have nothing better to do, read For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard

Hmm...doesn't sound like Mush's kind of thing to me...

The historical and political views of such an avowedly right-wing advocate of laissez-faire capitalism as Rothbard can hardly be termed consistent with his titanic accomplishments in the realm of economics. Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn come to resemble patriotic champions of American unilateralism in the face of the following excerpt from Rothbard?s For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto. ?Taking the twentieth century as a whole, the single most warlike, most interventionist, most imperialist government has been the United States? Lenin and his fellow Bolsheviks adopted the theory of ?peaceful coexistence? as the basic foreign policy for a communist state?? Murray Rothbard, during the undertaking by the Viet Minh of a grievous blow to American commercial and security interests in South Asia in 1975, praised ?the will and determination of the mass of Vietnamese (and Cambodians)? against which ?none of America?s superior might and firepower could in the end prevail.? The murders of forty million ?counterrevolutionaries? by Stalin, the gruesome anti-intellectual purges of the Khmer Rouge, the barbaric war crimes of the Viet Minh, all pale in comparison to the ?bellicose imperialism? of the United States, contends Rothbard. By some twisted and inhuman calculus, the freest country in the history of mankind must now be blasted while some of the world?s most grotesquely totalitarian tyrannies showered with laudation! And this, let the reader be reminded, originates from a self-proclaimed apostle of liberty and individualism. Such is revisionism at its worst.


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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: Xlea321]
    #3247275 - 10/12/04 02:51 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

why do you say that?


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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: ]
    #3247329 - 10/12/04 03:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Could have something to do with your last 7000 posts.


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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: Xlea321]
    #3247338 - 10/12/04 03:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

which part of it do you think i'd disagree with?


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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: Xlea321]
    #3247509 - 10/12/04 03:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Wow Alex. I have never read Rothbard. That is a powerful passage. I would say that make Rothbard look like an America hating ass.

I consider myself a conservative libertarian. I agree with libertarians on just about everything but war. I am still naive enough to think that America can do good things. I don't favor getting rid of government either. Some of my favorite posts on this forum come from Ancalagon when he writes about the market and freedom. We differ though at the extreme. I want a very limited government, but a very strong limited government. No government is not the answer.


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Re: foundation of libertarianism followed to it's true logical conclusion = anarchy [Re: Xlea321]
    #3247589 - 10/12/04 04:27 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i actually do disagree with rothbard there.

murray rothbard is an advocate of anarcho-capitalism which is quite different from minarchy. there is no state in anarcho-capitalism. it's a type of anarchy.


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