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FoolOfElysium said:
If the left had condemned the violence against Kirk alongside MAGA, this wouldn't be happening. The public assassination of someone who was only exercising their freedom of speech should be a non-partisan issue, but leftists went and screwed it all up again.
If only you say. Let's see.
1. Joe Biden — Former U.S. President (Democrat)
“There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now. Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk’s family and loved ones.”.
2. Barack Obama — Former U.S. President (Democrat)
“We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy.”.
3. Kamala Harris — Former Vice President / Senator (Democrat)
Publicly said she was “deeply disturbed” and emphasized that “political violence has no place in America” and must be condemned.
4. Hakeem Jeffries — House Democratic Leader
“I am shocked by the murder of Charlie Kirk… Political violence of any kind and against any individual is unacceptable and completely incompatible with American values.” (official statement).
5. Elizabeth Warren — U.S. Senator (D-MA)
“This shooting is nothing short of horrific. I'm praying for Charlie Kirk and thinking of the students at the event in Utah.” (tweet/statement).
6. Nancy Pelosi — Former Speaker, senior Democratic leader
Joined broad condemnation and called for rejecting hatred and political violence.
7. Chuck Schumer — Senate Democratic Leader
Condemned the shooting and joined calls to reject political violence.
8. Gavin Newsom — Governor of California
Called the killing “sick and reprehensible,” urged that differences be resolved through debate, and mourned Kirk’s family. (official statement).
9. Cory Booker — U.S. Senator
Publicly said the attack “must be condemned by all.”
10. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) — U.S. Representative
Warned about political chaos and emphasized the need to reduce political violence (public posts / replies collected by news outlets).
11. Bernie Sanders — U.S. Senator (I-VT)
Released a video/statement condemning political violence and expressing condolences (“Political violence has no place in this country. We must condemn this horrifying attack.”).
12. Pete Buttigieg — Former Cabinet official / prominent Democrat
Included in lists of top Democrats condemning the killing and urging de-escalation.
13. Bill Clinton — Former U.S. President (Democrat)
Publicly expressed sorrow and joined calls for introspection and condemnation.
14. Hillary Clinton — Former Secretary of State (Democrat)
Condemned the assassination in public comments included in news roundups.
15. Amy Klobuchar — U.S. Senator (D-MN)
“I am praying for Charlie Kirk and his family. There is no place for political violence in our country.” (social post/statement).
16. Stacey Abrams — Voting-rights leader / former Georgia official
Posted: “Political violence has no place in our country. No one should fear being shot for their politics.” (social post).
17. Gabby Giffords — Former Congresswoman, gun-violence survivor
Condemned the killing and used it to underscore that political violence and gun access are national crises; posted/reacted publicly.
18. Sen. Mark Kelly — U.S. Senator (D-AZ), husband of Gabby Giffords
Condemned the assassination as “despicable” and called for turning down the temperature. (interview/statement).
19. Ilhan Omar — U.S. Representative
Included among Democrats publicly condemning the shooting; she and other members pushed for de-escalation language.
20. Pramila Jayapal — U.S. Representative (progressive leader)
Posted that “political violence should have no place in this country” and condemned the killing. (social post).
21. Katie Hobbs — Governor of Arizona (Democrat)
Called the tragedy about a family and community loss and urged unity against violence.
22. Summer Lee — U.S. Representative (D-PA)
Emphasized gun-violence policy needs and that political violence cannot continue; quoted in progressive outlets.
23. Susan Rice — Former National Security Adviser / diplomat
Included in the list of prominent Democrats and commentators condemning the act in media roundups.
24. Matthew Dowd — Political analyst (left-of-center commentators condemned the act; note: his later comments drew criticism and he was fired by MSNBC for a separate remark) — he also made remarks condemning violence; his firing related to follow-on comments. (context in news coverage).
25. Rebecca Kutler / MSNBC (leadership and anchors) — News leadership
MSNBC publicly denounced celebratory or insensitive comments and stressed no place for political violence. (network responses documented).
26. Prominent progressive commentators & activists — e.g., Van Jones, ** Katrina vanden Heuvel** (examples of left media/activist condemnation) — appear in aggregated reports denouncing the killing and calling for cooling rhetoric. (news roundups).
27. State and regional Democratic leaders (a sample: Massachusetts, California, Arizona senators and governors) — many issued statements condemning the murder and calling for unity. (multiple state news sources).
28. Gun-violence organizations and advocates (represented by figures like Fred Guttenberg) — while not elected politicians, they are influential on the left and publicly condemned the assassination and used it to push gun-safety measures.
29. Progressive members of Congress including Rep. Rashida Tlaib / Rep. Jamaal Bowman — included in media lists of Democrats calling to reject political violence (news roundups).
30. High-profile left-leaning media figures and late-night hosts (e.g., Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel) — they publicly condemned the killing, framed it as an attack on democratic norms and called for de-escalation.
Yikes! That is a lot of the top people from the left denouncing it. Something you claimed did not happen. Looks like you are wrong again. But why stop here, let's look at what the right did when the shoe was on the other foot so we can further demonstrate your lack of insight and abilities. Let us see what MAGA said when Paul Pelosi was attacked and/or the Democrats in Minnesota were assassinated.
Case A: Paul Pelosi Hammer Attack (October 2022)
1. Donald Trump Jr.
Shared a meme of a hammer and underpants with the caption: “Got my Paul Pelosi Halloween costume ready.”
Added commentary: “OMG, the internet remains undefeated.”
In the same post: “If you switch out the hammer for a red feather boa, you can instantly transform yourself into a Hunter Biden.”
Also posted: “Imagine how safe the country would be if democrats took all violent crime as seriously as they’re taking the Paul Pelosi situation. They simply don't care about you.”
The attack involved severe violence, including a skull fracture, yet the response turned it into a joke.
It mocks a victim of violence, rather than expressing empathy or condemning the perpetrator.
Uses insensitive sexual / homophobic insinuations (e.g. underwear + hammer, mention of Hunter Biden) which aim to humiliate.
Politicizes the event immediately, using it to attack political opponents rather than focus on the human trauma.
2. Kari Lake
At a campaign event, made light of the security situation: “Nancy Pelosi … she’s got protection when she’s in D.C.—apparently her house doesn’t have a lot of protection.”
Instead of acknowledging the violence, she used it to imply negligence or weakness.
The remark is dismissive and shifts blame subtly onto the victim’s security, rather than focusing on the attacker.
Case B: Shootings / Assassination of Minnesota Democratic Politicians (June 2025)
1. Laura Loomer
After the killings, claimed without evidence that Governor Tim Walz was associated with the shooter. Example: “And your friend murdered her. Hopefully you are investigated.” referring to Walz.
Suggested the shooter was a “friend” or “ally” of Gov. Walz, though there is no substantiation.
Called the Democratic Party a “terrorist organization.” It scapegoats innocent people, attributing blame before facts are known.
It equates normal political actors / institutions (the Democrat Party, a governor) with terrorism or complicity in brutal murder.
Conflates speculation with accusation, which can fuel outrage, retaliation, or radicalization.
2. Senator Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Lee offered a prayerful message following Wednesday's shooting, and extended condolences to Kirk's wife and children while calling for swift justice.
But the Republican struck a far less gracious tone in June, including a post on X that said: "Nightmare on Waltz Street," a jab referencing Walz. Another post falsely stated: "This is what happens when Marxists don't get their way," while including an image of Boelter, who friends and public records described as politically right-leaning, having once registered as a Republican in Oklahoma. and implied Governor Walz bore responsibility.
Spreading ideological labels (“Marxist”) without evidence, based merely on political animus.
2. Donald Trump Jr. and others
Falsely or prematurely blaming the Left / Democrats for the shootings in Minnesota, despite evidence showing suspect had at least some right-leaning / pro-Trump views.
Using the tragedy for ideological point scoring; contributing to misinformation.
B. Charlie Kirk Assassination (September 2025)
3. Jesse Watters (Fox News host)
After Kirk’s death: said that MAGA will “avenge” Kirk’s death.
Framing the incident as part of an ideological war; using “retribution” language. Many observers took that as exceeding acceptable rhetorical bounds in response to political violence.
4. Donald Trump
Saying “we have to beat the hell out of radical left lunatics” after the Kirk killing.
Also blaming “radical left political violence” and saying many innocent people are hurt by people demonizing those they disagree with. But his rhetoric has been criticized for fanning partisan animosity.
5. Right-Wing Media Voices / Influencers
Reports of Fox hosts, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, Jack Posobiec, Laura Loomer and others calling for vengeance or using “we’re in a war” language.
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The shooting saw bipartisan condemnation from politicians.[68] Messages of sympathy came from United States President Donald Trump,[69] First Lady Melania Trump,[70] Vice President JD Vance,[69] House speaker Mike Johnson, Senate Majority Leader John Thune,[71] and former president George W. Bush,[72] among other Republicans.[21] Democratic politicians also condemned the shooting, including former presidents Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden,[21][73] Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries,[74] California Governor Gavin Newsom, and Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar.[75]
Some politicians responded to the shooting by linking it to broader political debates. Before the shooter's identity and motivations were revealed, several prominent right-wing voices and some congressional Republicans placed blame on Democrats, and called for war and vengeance.[76][77][78] Republicans have accused liberals of "inciting violence with rhetoric". Democrats and some news media pushed back against the claim, describing Trump's divisive rhetoric also factor in coarsening public debate and that political violence had impacted both parties. Democrats also used the event to further discussions of gun safety legislation.[79] Some Republicans also used the event to condemn liberal beliefs and ideology as evil.[80]
President Trump blamed the "radical left" for Kirk's and other recent deaths, saying they "compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis", but did not pay tribute to recent Democratic victims of violence.[81][79] The response received criticism for blaming his political opponents as accessories to murder,[82] and NBC News called Trump's response "far more polarizing than many of the other messages offered by politicians and representatives of both parties".[79] The next day, Trump stated that "We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them", but later said he hoped his supporters would be nonviolent.[83]
Following the shooting, while Kirk was still believed to be in critical condition, Johnson held a 30-second moment of silence in the U.S. House of Representatives for Kirk, observed by all House members. Following disagreements on the floor, the event descended into partisan rancor and accusations by both sides.[84] Trump ordered all flags to be flown at half-staff until that Sunday at 6 p.m. in Kirk's honor;[21] he later released a video tribute to him. The next day, Trump announced that Kirk would be posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.[85]
Christopher Landau, the United States Deputy Secretary of State, urged social media users to turn in foreign residents of the US who mocked or celebrated Kirk's death.[86] The US State Department said it would review the legal status of immigrants found to be "praising, rationalizing, or making light" of Kirk's killing.[87]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk
Tell me more about this fantasy land you live in.
Now I'm sure you are going to say there were many on the left celebrating it...true, but they are deplorable individuals, not representatives of our political parties and institutions. But if that is your metric, the same thing happened with both the Paul Pelosi and Minnesota violence and you didn't make a peep. Plus, those speaking vileness were not leaders of the Democratic party. Plus, if you daftly want to continue claiming some validity to your lie, then be prepared to condemn all of Christianity for the few deplorable rats that like targetting abortion clincs for examples. Or the ones attacking religious instititutions.
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) response than what I did. When a clown gets on stage and performs as you have done, it is common to discuss the quality of the act with those presently viewing. This is a practice that likely extended back into antiquity, so no, I wouldn't even call you old fashioned. 
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