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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: el53]
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Well said, @el53.

@hansterx4i it would look a bit thin on water agar, but it's GREAT.  Give it a bit more time and put it to grain.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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*no gasket or seal* All i do is flip the lid so there is the gap in between for the FAE, i typically have really good flushes but I guess I haven't been in an out of my closet as much this time so there is a ton of air movement. I also waited a tad too late to flipping the lids (I normally only flip the lids when I notice hyphal knots and they fruited but I feel if I flipped sooner more would've pinned. time for a fan?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: knupKlY]
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Sometimes the lid flip isn’t enough. Put some holes in there to aid with the evaporation.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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BeefSupremeJr said:
noomer i suspect that once you hydrate it ans pc it it might make a mushy mess.  if theres added sugar, its probably too much nutrition for cubes but you know me, im always supportive of people trying things as long as you go into it to learn something.  no harm in trying things.




:randysavage:

Nothing a coffee grinder and some verm can't fix...  :thumbup:

Probably don't need as much as you would using brf for cakes because it's probably a bit hot from the sweeteners.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Powdered as a supplement is probably the way id use it too. As spawn it would indeed be messy


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: el53]
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el53 said:
Sorry this is not a quick answer-
Instapot's as a brand max PSI varies by model from 10-12. Versions made for international distribution may express the numbers as pascal or kilopascals which I will leave to you to google should need be.  You'll find your pot's max PSI either on the model number label or in the handbook. Assuming you are below 1,000 feet elevation and have a 10 psi pot Process 1 layer of pint jars of a simple liquid (which agar qualifies as) for 30 minutes and quart jars for 40 minutes at 10 pounds of pressure (adjust for your altitude). Always allow the pressure to naturally return to zero pressure before opening, which can take approximately 25-30 minutes. If you are between 1,000 and 2,000 you will need 11 psi from your pot and between  2,000 and 3,000 12psi In spite of the group think that some in forums chanting we are not canning we are sterilizing every pressure canning recipe is designed to reach 250F and hold that temp long enough to sterilize against botulism spores which require the same times and temperatures as the most heat resistant Trichoderma spores.

Each degree of PSI over what is required for your altitude will raise your steam temp by 2 degrees. The effect of a degree or two over has negligible affects on your agar but processing at using 15psi at sea levels generate an extra 10 degrees of which will scorch your agar.

If you are ever concerned about the sensors or seals in your pot you can either find someone with a wireless high temperature data logger probe (most culinary schools have have food safety labs with more than one and are willing to test your pot with a little sweet talk and a heavy dose of food safety concern). High end wireless meat thermometers often have a probe that reaches 165-170 range and an ambient sensor that goes (depending on the model) from 400-1000f If you decide to try to test your pot with one cover the probe with a bit of silicone tube or you risk killing it's sensor in sterilization/canning mode and keep the ambient sensor out of boiling water.

*there are other brands of similar pots that do reach 15 PSI on high



Thanks for the detailed answer. This is my first go at Instant Pot no pour. I could just use my PC but the idea of starting it and going to bed is luring.

I have the 6 quart Duo Plus 60 V2, which at high pressure produces approximately 10.2–11.6 psi. I am at 5,000 feet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Nichrome said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
noomer i suspect that once you hydrate it ans pc it it might make a mushy mess.  if theres added sugar, its probably too much nutrition for cubes but you know me, im always supportive of people trying things as long as you go into it to learn something.  no harm in trying things.




:randysavage:

Nothing a coffee grinder and some verm can't fix...  :thumbup:

Probably don't need as much as you would using brf for cakes because it's probably a bit hot from the sweeteners.



oh nice idea nich.

:cantarguewiththat:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Beef, i just got some new 12.5x12 tubs for minis, kinda wanna do something similar to what you were talking about with multiple smaller holes. Thoughts?

I have a thick copper wire im gonna use for holes. Unsure what guage


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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yes yes yes  i have so many ideas.  i drew a real shitty picture just today.  i was thinkin like a thumb tack size but youd burn your fingers.  a needle with pliers maybe.



talkin a BUNCH of tiny holes and lid too.  notbtoo sure about the pattern on the lid.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
yes yes yes  i have so many ideas.  i drew a real shitty picture just today.  i was thinkin like a thumb tack size but youd burn your fingers.  a needle with pliers maybe.



talkin a BUNCH of tiny holes and lid too.  notbtoo sure about the pattern on the lid.



This feels like a job for a water jet. I would have said a laser etcher but apparently that leads to noxious fumes from the plastic and is a no no.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8]
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ya man.  would be slick.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I used a metal coat hanger on a tub last week. Worked pretty well.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
yes yes yes  i have so many ideas.  i drew a real shitty picture just today.  i was thinkin like a thumb tack size but youd burn your fingers.  a needle with pliers maybe.



talkin a BUNCH of tiny holes and lid too.  notbtoo sure about the pattern on the lid.



Think this is too thick?


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Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
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Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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no that seems about right. I mean I have never tried this so, your guess is as good as mine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: OLDDAD77]
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I have about 8 tubs, relatively small, like 6qt. Would the holes not be overkill for it and possibly dry them out a bit. I have an outlet in the closet I could use a fan on a time limit if that would solve the problem.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: knupKlY]
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Here's how I did my 27qt mini EZ dial tubs:





Could probably do something similar, I used a 1/4" center punch and a pair of vice grips.  Can clean the holes up with a razor blade.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: knupKlY]
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I feel like there should be a “Is this contam” super thread but is this contam? The break and shakes come back quickly but the growth is very thin and not thick white. This is from an agar plate.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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At 5,000 feet that is not going to reach the kill zone of 250. You need 15psi at that altitude. Adding time won't get you there. The only instapot types that have passed my personal testing at 15 PSI are the Nesco Smart canner and the Chef's Choice electric pot the I bought by accident last week.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: el53]
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el53 said:
At 5,000 feet that is not going to reach the kill zone of 250. You need 15psi at that altitude. Adding time won't get you there. The only instapot types that have passed my personal testing at 15 PSI are the Nesco Smart canner and the Chef's Choice electric pot the I bought by accident last week.



It looks like it is only going to get me up to 240 F. max.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:
el53 said:
Sorry this is not a quick answer-
Instapot's as a brand max PSI varies by model from 10-12. Versions made for international distribution may express the numbers as pascal or kilopascals which I will leave to you to google should need be.  You'll find your pot's max PSI either on the model number label or in the handbook. Assuming you are below 1,000 feet elevation and have a 10 psi pot Process 1 layer of pint jars of a simple liquid (which agar qualifies as) for 30 minutes and quart jars for 40 minutes at 10 pounds of pressure (adjust for your altitude). Always allow the pressure to naturally return to zero pressure before opening, which can take approximately 25-30 minutes. If you are between 1,000 and 2,000 you will need 11 psi from your pot and between  2,000 and 3,000 12psi In spite of the group think that some in forums chanting we are not canning we are sterilizing every pressure canning recipe is designed to reach 250F and hold that temp long enough to sterilize against botulism spores which require the same times and temperatures as the most heat resistant Trichoderma spores.

Each degree of PSI over what is required for your altitude will raise your steam temp by 2 degrees. The effect of a degree or two over has negligible affects on your agar but processing at using 15psi at sea levels generate an extra 10 degrees of which will scorch your agar.

If you are ever concerned about the sensors or seals in your pot you can either find someone with a wireless high temperature data logger probe (most culinary schools have have food safety labs with more than one and are willing to test your pot with a little sweet talk and a heavy dose of food safety concern). High end wireless meat thermometers often have a probe that reaches 165-170 range and an ambient sensor that goes (depending on the model) from 400-1000f If you decide to try to test your pot with one cover the probe with a bit of silicone tube or you risk killing it's sensor in sterilization/canning mode and keep the ambient sensor out of boiling water.

*there are other brands of similar pots that do reach 15 PSI on high



Thanks for the detailed answer. This is my first go at Instant Pot no pour. I could just use my PC but the idea of starting it and going to bed is luring.

I have the 6 quart Duo Plus 60 V2, which at high pressure produces approximately 10.2–11.6 psi. I am at 5,000 feet.



I don’t have time to make the math look right here but it works out to about 73 min at 10.2psi for no pour sterilization at 5k ft.


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You can ignore the truth to your final breath. But trust me, it will meet you there to be ignored no longer.

The answer to your question is almost always 42
“The answer is always grow more shroom.” Mr Piggy
- Those two answers coexist peacefully.

Quick Sterilization Reference for Altitude

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