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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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nektar61 will keep us all in line....
Nichrome said:
nektar61 said:
I thought you had me on ignore. Since you do not, did you see my two replies to you correcting you on the use of the incorrect term "F0"?

There is no F0, generation before F1 is called P, and you're still teaching new growers wrong by saying "F0" (at least twice in one week)


I did indeed see that, and I learned something.  I just didn't respond because I don't like your attitude... :laugh2:

Good job with the terminology. :cookiemonster:


nektar61 will keep us all in line...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I can be a bit of a fuckin lazy slob

But i work a lot so i let it slide lol


Same. Life's got me running my ass off, but that should subside soon and then it's on like donkey kong, foo!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I can be a bit of a fuckin lazy slob

But i work a lot so i let it slide lol


Same. Life's got me running my ass off, but that should subside soon and then it's on like donkey kong, foo!


Shit doesn't subside... at least not yet?


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Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Good idea if itll fit lol. Too many microwaves are short. It kinda pisses me off


I should have checked before posting. Like you said, no way it will fit in the microwave. 500ml media bottle. Also won't fit in my 6-qt instant pot :-( 
Easiest way to reheat suggestions? I am trying to  avoid dragging out the monster PC to liquefy 100ml of agar, but will if that is the best way.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie] * 2
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Quote:
Wedgie said:What do I do with theoretically speaking, to throw away a extra bit of
dried fruits? Is it safe to throw in compost pile or garbage? 


Shroom the homeless.


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
    #29287365 -

You could just boil it in a lidless pot. Just put a towel or something in the bkttom so the glass isnt getting direct heat


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Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I can be a bit of a fuckin lazy slob

But i work a lot so i let it slide lol


Oh wow, we use the same exact jar bumper. I thought I was special.
:boatfail:


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Seek the truth tirelessly,
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:
tryptkaloids said:
Good idea if itll fit lol. Too many microwaves are short. It kinda pisses me off


I should have checked before posting. Like you said, no way it will fit in the microwave. 500ml media bottle. Also won't fit in my 6-qt instant pot :-( 
Easiest way to reheat suggestions? I am trying to  avoid dragging out the monster PC to liquefy 100ml of agar, but will if that is the best way.


hot water bath?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight]
    #29287375 -

LadysKnight said:
tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I can be a bit of a fuckin lazy slob

But i work a lot so i let it slide lol


Oh wow, we use the same exact jar bumper. I thought I was special.
:boatfail:


You mean the blue thing? I use it for chillin on the floor lol


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
    #29287378 -

So my first fruits have broken veil and it's time to piecemeal harvest/salvage. Can I store them in the fridge in a paper bag until I get enough to dehydrate? Or do I need to perpetually run my dehydrator as these stragglers come in?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #29287380 -

tryptkaloids said:
LadysKnight said:
tryptkaloids said:
:whathesaid:

I can be a bit of a fuckin lazy slob

But i work a lot so i let it slide lol


Oh wow, we use the same exact jar bumper. I thought I was special.
:boatfail:


You mean the blue thing? I use it for chillin on the floor lol


Another excellent use.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
What benefit to communication does using P over F0 have?


TC with sig line quote about the importance of science is basically asking "Why use proper scientific terms when teaching people science?"

Weird.

It's like asking "Why not call spores seeds?" If I started doing that here, I'd hope someone would correct me.

Other than P being the proper term, P stands for "parental." It shows the importance of what the first generation IS.

P, F1, F2, F3, etc aren't Shroomery terms. They're scientific terms that exist far and wide outside of this place and have for over 100 years.

The terms were coined by Gregor Mendel in the second half of the 19th century. He's considered the father of modern genetics.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/19/25 07:41 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 2
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I understand all that, but here we are an entry level into the science. Its already easy for beginners to get lost in the terminology.  Especially when things get thrown in with little context.

Id just prefer to see it spelled out, atleast when the topic is initially braught up.

For example the first sentence it should appear as "Parental (P)" and then later using just the initial.

Its more of a grammatical/communication gripe than anything.

Kindof like how you cant change the subject of a sentence unless you name a new subject, otherwise the reader may not catch the subject change


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 10
    #29287394 -

nektar61 said:
tryptkaloids said:
What benefit to communication does using P over F0 have?


TC with sig line quote about the importance of science is basically asking "Why use proper scientific terms when teaching people science?"

Weird.

It's like asking "Why not call spores seeds?" If I started doing that here someone would correct me.

Other than P being the proper term, P stands for "parental." It shows the importance of what the first generation IS.

P, F1, F2, F3, etc aren't Shroomery terms. They're scientific terms that exist far and wide outside of this place and have for over 100 years.

The terms were coined by Gregor Mendel in the second half of the 19th century. He's considered the father of modern genetics.




this is the kind of feedback that could and should be given in private unless you guys are looking for an audience.  if you really care about correcting someone's erroneous info or nomenclature, respect them and discuss it one on one. 

imagine going to work and just blowing someone up in a meeting because they were 100% on board with the flow of the topic but used a nearly synonymous yet incorrect term.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
    #29287396 -

Ill agree to disagree. This may not be the thread, but i think its a good topic to have in public. Its all in the name of everyone being on the same page


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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tryptkaloids said:
Ill agree to disagree. This may not be the thread, but i think its a good topic to have in public. Its all in the name of everyone being on the same page



I don't need to be on the same page with people being shitheads about knowledge deltas.  nor do you or anyone else.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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I get what you're saying. Nektar is 100% right, but im not gonna correct people who say they went to the atm machine and used their pin number (both examples of redundant acronym syndrome syndrome :rofl:)


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
    #29287403 -

tryptkaloids said:
I understand all that, but here we are an entry level into the science. Its already easy for beginners to get lost in the terminology.  Especially when things get thrown in with little context.

Id just prefer to see it spelled out, atleast when the topic is initially braught up.

For example the first sentence it should appear as "Parental (P)" and then later using just the initial.

Its more of a grammatical/communication gripe than anything.

Kindof like how you cant change the subject of a sentence unless you name a new subject, otherwise the reader may not catch the subject change


It's not rocket science. I literally learned P, F1, F2, in 9th grade biology class. They used to teach that stuff. It's not only not complex to teach P instead of the wrong F0, it's more useful because it helps explain what's happening.

I don't correct people to be RIGHT, I correct people so I don't have to spend the next years correcting people when it spreads. Correcting that is what keeps this place from being Reddit shroom bs.

TCs and Mods used to do that that a lot when I joined here 5 years ago. They've gotten lazy but I'll still do it.

Same way I corrected Dr. Smoke's sockpuppet when he said "Don't need a dehydrator, air dry shrooms in wire baskets." And a new user says "Great idea."

(Everyone: Dr. Smoke's sockpuppet root3r is gone now. You're welcome.)
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Nichrome, you mite be right. I was thinking of fungus Gnats (that you CAN see). Scientific takeaway and note to self: growing in outbuildings is an even worse idea than growing in low light.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/19/25 08:04 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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tryptkaloids said:
Ill agree to disagree. This may not be the thread, but i think its a good topic to have in public. Its all in the name of everyone being on the same page



I learned something from it, I didn't know what the hell P stood for or F1, F2...and I have been on here for a year poking around. "When we stop disagreeing, we stop progressing."-My quote I just made it up and I am claiming it!

What's funny is I remember the Pea Plant scientist and his Punnett Squares from middle school biology but guess I forgot the terminology.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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tryptkaloids said:
I understand all that, but here we are an entry level into the science. Its already easy for beginners to get lost in the terminology.  Especially when things get thrown in with little context.

Id just prefer to see it spelled out, atleast when the topic is initially braught up.

For example the first sentence it should appear as "Parental (P)" and then later using just the initial.

Its more of a grammatical/communication gripe than anything.

Kindof like how you cant change the subject of a sentence unless you name a new subject, otherwise the reader may not catch the subject change


This is pretty good direction in general communication and standard in writing, publication, marketing, etc. As a newbie it would have helped as my memory on Mendel and P, F1, etc. as a premed is foggy at best. As written I either read it and DGAS about what it means or I'm forced to do a search and look up the term.


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You can ignore the truth to your final breath. But trust me, it will meet you there to be ignored no longer.

The answer to your question is almost always 42
β€œThe answer is always grow more shroom.” Mr Piggy
- Those two answers coexist peacefully.

Quick Sterilization Reference for Altitude

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