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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy] * 2
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sorry for your loss, mushboy.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 4
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Can anyone tell me why these mushrooms are so short in the first two pics? I cloned them from that one in the 3rd. Thanks


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tossed_salad]
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Genetics


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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The clone was huge though. I was under the impression they were going to express similar genetics


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tossed_salad]
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When you guys double swab do you use that whole plate for spawn or take transfers?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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Double swab?

I never use an inoculation plate for grain


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tree frog said:
30c is pretty high.  You might have more luck fruiting those in a cooler season if that's an option, as they all do well at like 22-24c.

Tropical pans would do better.  Such as cyans.  But they like a casing and generally some nitrogen.

Here's a cake recipe for pans.  You could do this in a water tub.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18357343



Thanks for the link but unfortunately I cant get cyans here.

I got these LCs in a summer sale, and the vendor has a 1 month return policy if they're contaminated so I want to try them out soon. But if they really can't stand 30C then I'll just bite the bullet and wait for cooler weather.

tryptkaloids said:
Or just run an ac



I can't run AC 24/7.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sandlark]
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Me neither. Once the temp inside matches the temp outside in the evening ac turns off and all the windows open.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Double swab?

I never use an inoculation plate for grain




Swab 2 different fruits with one swab to breed them.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Me neither. Once the temp inside matches the temp outside in the evening ac turns off and all the windows open.



I'm from SEA, temp outside in the evening is 28-30C :grin:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tossed_salad] * 5
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tossed_salad said:
The clone was huge though. I was under the impression they were going to express similar genetics



Was that a first flush clone fruit?  If it wasn’t, fruits often morph into larger fruits the further out the flushes get so if you cloned a third flush fruit, you can expect the fruits to probably be smaller in a first flush clone.  Also, the more mush in a flush, the smaller the fruits are generally going to be.  That’s a nice tub

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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misterswisher said:
When you guys double swab do you use that whole plate for spawn or take transfers?



I understand wanting to conserve the entire genetic pool.  I get this way with my germ plates sometimes.  I always take transfers to find that clean healthy growth, but, when the germ plate looks good and I've taken all the transfers I intend to take, I'll sometimes send it to a muda bottle or two and see what I get.  Makes me feel like I've given every possible genetic a chance to fruit, and feels better than tossing it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
tossed_salad said:
The clone was huge though. I was under the impression they were going to express similar genetics



Was that a first flush clone fruit?  If it wasn’t, fruits often morph into larger fruits the further out the flushes get so if you cloned a third flush fruit, you can expect the fruits to probably be smaller in a first flush clone.  Also, the more mush in a flush, the smaller the fruits are generally going to be.  That’s a nice tub



Yes it was a first flush fruit and thanks! It's my first really good tub :smile: Thank you for the clarification too; that all makes sense. I was just hoping for a tub full of fatties lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tossed_salad]
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tossed_salad said:
fahtster said:
tossed_salad said:
The clone was huge though. I was under the impression they were going to express similar genetics



Was that a first flush clone fruit?  If it wasn’t, fruits often morph into larger fruits the further out the flushes get so if you cloned a third flush fruit, you can expect the fruits to probably be smaller in a first flush clone.  Also, the more mush in a flush, the smaller the fruits are generally going to be.  That’s a nice tub



Yes it was a first flush fruit and thanks! It's my first really good tub :smile: Thank you for the clarification too; that all makes sense. I was just hoping for a tub full of fatties lol



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
For example growing mushrooms in the dark is limiting.......
Personally I don't like to torture, deprive, or manipulate any life form. I prefer to support and enhance, rather than manipulate.



Those mushrooms told me it's OK to put them in the dark for science.

Curious, are you a vegetarian? I should hope so after that soliloquy to not "torture" the mushrooms with less-than-perfect conditions to learn something.

I thought you had me on ignore. Since you do not, did you see my two replies to you correcting you on the use of the incorrect term "F0"?

There is no F0, generation before F1 is called P, and you're still teaching new growers wrong by saying "F0" (at least twice in one week)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 2
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What benefit to communication does using P over F0 have?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sandlark]
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Sandlark said:
tryptkaloids said:
Me neither. Once the temp inside matches the temp outside in the evening ac turns off and all the windows open.



I'm from SEA, temp outside in the evening is 28-30C :grin:



Pans grow all over Southeast Asia.  Dog piss mushrooms is what they're commonly referred to in some areas.

You can probably find help identifying some in the identification forum.  And if you look for mottled gills and blue bruising, you've probably found something interesting.

You can still try to grow the others.  Temps that high will likely have some challenges.  But if you have a lot of humidity you can give them more air which can help.

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Mottle gills typical of many pans when mature



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 4
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Microscopic mites. You cannot see them with the naked eye.

They are very common.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 5
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nektar61 said:
I thought you had me on ignore. Since you do not, did you see my two replies to you correcting you on the use of the incorrect term "F0"?

There is no F0, generation before F1 is called P, and you're still teaching new growers wrong by saying "F0" (at least twice in one week)



I did indeed see that, and I learned something.  I just didn't respond because I don't like your attitude... :laugh2:

Good job with the terminology. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Proposition 122 said:
Hi All: I have been MIA for a year. Life interfered with my hobby :-(

I have four grain jars (oats) that i PC-ed around 6mo ago. They show no signs of contamination. Perhaps a little dry, not sure because I typically make my oats a little on the dry side. What is the shelf life? Safe to use? Start over?

Likewise i have a petri where the myc has overrun the agar, shows no contamination, appears healthy (to my surprise). Safe to use?

TIA



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Id i were to re cook grain id inoculate it with lc in hopes it helps rehydrate lost moisture



I don't have any LC right now. All I have is myc/agar (equally old). What do you think about injecting sterile distilled water in the oat jars to help mitigate any dryness?


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