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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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Ive heard of using smoker pellets for wood lovers, has anyone heard of using wood lover blocks in a smoker?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
ThurmanMurman said:
What happens to the culture if an agar plate is totally deprived of oxygen? I assume death, but wanted to ask, in case it just kinda went dormant.

Im mostly using holy grail bead containers and tightening the lid completely would surely keep them from drying out for longer but figured I'd kill the culture if I did that.



Id imagine heyll go dormant for a long time before death.
nocap said:
tagging along:

how is liquid stasis different than a sealed up plate?



Water is 1/3 oxygen.



For sure.  And a sealed up plate has oxygen too.  For a while at least.  In both cases it would run out eventually I suspect.

Regardless of technique then - is complete O2 consumption game over for the culture?

In which case, we are preferring tek with prolonged O2 availability?  Or is O2 consumption so little while under stasis that the point is moot?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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tryptkaloids said:
Ive heard of using smoker pellets for wood lovers, has anyone heard of using wood lover blocks in a smoker?



And if you bonk your spouse with a club caveman style, that is wood smoking the lover.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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nocap said:
how is liquid stasis different than a sealed up plate?



Cold.

Everything from chemical reactions to cellular growth happens slowly just above freezing compared to at room temp. A culture is going to need barely any oxygen while in the fridge.

I've put plates in the fridge for up to 2 years and revived them. They still grow in there, but in a year grow about as much as they would in 2 weeks (or less) at room temp.

I think what happens at room temps when plates are low on oxygen is you get plins. Other people agreed with this on the Daily Plin thread.

As I said about yesterday about contaminated grows sometimes dropping spores sooner than clean grows, when an organism is deprived normal conditions, it tends to try to reproduce quickly to pass on genes before it dies. 

Also maybe part of why a more than normal amount of people are born 9 months after a war or a natural disaster.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/17/25 09:55 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 4
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tryptkaloids said:
Ive heard of using smoker pellets for wood lovers, has anyone heard of using wood lover blocks in a smoker?



I did it once. Took two tubes of lube to get it in. The good news is she stopped smoking.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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Thanks nectar - I guess I wasn’t thinking about temperature as being part of the equation since Thurman didn’t mention a fridge in his initial post.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 2
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The Tao said:
tryptkaloids said:
Ive heard of using smoker pellets for wood lovers, has anyone heard of using wood lover blocks in a smoker?



I did it once. Took two tubes of lube to get it in. The good news is she stopped smoking.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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liquid stasis can be done at room temp tho

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman] * 1
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Mushrooms r cool. Dormancy is odd.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Is it possible to get APE somewhere in scandic region?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Ferryman]
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Sillysighbean said:
liquid stasis can be done at room temp tho



Definitely.  I was thinking about room temp plates too. :shrug:

I haven’t tried to keep plates for long, so I have no frame of reference with that.  But I do see some people reviving dried, old plates with success.  Not sure if those were stored in the fridge though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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I just revived an agar chip last week :lol:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chris77] * 1
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chris77 said:
it will all go green in the blink of an eye.




It didn't.





205g wet:thumbup:

chris77 said:
its trichoderma




I don't think it is. That's why I asked.
Trichoderma develops a thick, white mycelium and then it turns green.
But these dots, I never saw them after I misted.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 8eo6f] * 1
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8eo6f said:
chris77 said:
it will all go green in the blink of an eye.




It didn't.





205g wet:thumbup:

chris77 said:
its trichoderma




I don't think it is. That's why I asked.
Trichoderma develops a thick, white mycelium and then it turns green.
But these dots, I never saw them after I misted.



Trich typically doesn’t actually do that. Like sometimes itll make a thick overlay. Sometimes it inbeds itself in the mycelium. Trich smells like leaf littered forests, and has white blue and green. I confused trich for bruising once. Now that I know the smell I’ll never forget it though.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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Its probably aspergillis or penicillium if it didnt spread


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After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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When spawning to bulk (and introducing fruiting conditions immediately, not sure if that info matters)  is it absolutely essential to have light? 

The reason why I am asking is for time’s sake, to have a perfect cycle of tubs. I want to know if it would be possible to start a tub - say a week - before a different tub is finishing up under the light so that once the tub under the light is finished I could simply put the other tub under the light.  Idk, I just figure that usually a tub isn’t even fully colonized in a week for me so does it matter if it doesn’t get light?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Big Jon] * 2
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I grow mushrooms in the same space as I grow cannabis. The lights are on/off 12/12 or 18/6 depending on the cannabis stage. The mushrooms don’t seem to mind.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 8
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I don’t use artificial light for a lot of my tubs. They sit on the floor of a room with a window. My cubes are solar.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Big Jon] * 1
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Big Jon said:
When spawning to bulk (and introducing fruiting conditions immediately, not sure if that info matters)  is it absolutely essential to have light? 

The reason why I am asking is for time’s sake, to have a perfect cycle of tubs. I want to know if it would be possible to start a tub - say a week - before a different tub is finishing up under the light so that once the tub under the light is finished I could simply put the other tub under the light.  Idk, I just figure that usually a tub isn’t even fully colonized in a week for me so does it matter if it doesn’t get light?



"Separate fruiting conditions" is archaic bullshit. Depriving a shroom grow of oxygen before pins increases likelihood of contam.

Shrooms just need some light, and they're not as light cycle dependent as plants. Ideal light color is 6500 k and 12 on 12 off.

That's the classic wisdom around here.

However, I recently grew this tub of x7x+ in near darkness. They look OK. I haven't tried or tested them yet to see how the potency is, but they look OK.

Grown in an outbuilding as a bit of an experiment, there are no lights in there and very little sunlight comes through one corner. Enough that in the day with no lights on in there you might not trip over things, but dark enough that your eyes would have to get used to it to see in there.

They are taller with thinner stipes than my usual tubs of that variety. They have enough air in there, maybe they're trying to "reach up to the light" or "think" they're growing under leaves.

x7x+ grown in near darkness, just for fun. 


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/19/25 05:17 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 2
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misterswisher said:
I confused trich for bruising once.



Rub it with a Q-tip.

Contam will rub off a bit.

If it's bruising you'll just get more bruising.


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
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