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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 1
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No dry verm barrier?

Just toss contaminated jars


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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oh yeah they have the layer

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance]
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what's some things that would make a jar go bad? moisture/humidity? temp?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 2
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divineverdance said:
what's some things that would make a jar go bad? moisture/humidity? temp?


Failed filter or contaminated inoculate.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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:whathesaid:  pf tek is injected with spores that were grown in open air where all sorts of shit is growing. That means you have no idea what else is in the syringe.  You can also pick things up from disturbed air, bumping the box while working, accidentally touching your needle to stuff etc.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 2
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contaminants are everywhere :uhoh:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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misterswisher said:
Fastest setup to grow minimum mushrooms?

Basically I want to speed up colonization as much as I can and get a small flush fast. Fruits are for spores so idc about how many.

I’ve seen fhats bags kinda wanna try those, but is pf tek faster?
Obviously a shoebox your looking about a month from spawn to harvest.

I’ve thought about just putting coir on the top of the grain jars and putting a bag over it.

Thoughts?


I don't think it's really possible to go from spore to shroom in less than a month reliably.

It obviously changes if you have LC or agar plates handy.

But I personally would go Spore->Agar->Small 1/4 pint grain jar->Sandwich Fahtlock.
Probably could get that done in less than a month.

My theory would be that using more inoculant on smaller grain jars would make colonization move faster, and using a small substrate at a 1:1 ratio would help you get a flush faster.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Top fruiting some 1/4 pint PF jars might save a small amount of time by skipping the agar step.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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Li to cakes or bottles is probably the quickest, most aseptic way to spores


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 2
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divineverdance said:
what's some things that would make a jar go bad? moisture/humidity? temp?


Putting contaminated stuff in it.
If you didn't properly sterilize it to begin with.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher] * 3
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misterswisher said:
Fastest setup to grow minimum mushrooms?



Whatever you do, I would not add a heater. Will increase contam chance more than it's worth.

Don't you have some shrooms on hand?
This is why you should always have some shrooms on hand.

Maybe borrow a cup of shrooms from the neighbors?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
misterswisher said:
Fastest setup to grow minimum mushrooms?



Whatever you do, I would not add a heater. Will increase contam chance more than it's worth.

Don't you have some shrooms on hand?
This is why you should always have some shrooms on hand.

Maybe borrow a cup of shrooms from the neighbors?


It’s for breeding purposes. I’ve got plenty of fruits on hand lol I don’t think I mentioned that.

But like suggested above it seems small fhatlocks or cakes seems best. Since i want spores not fruits, an invitro cake setup would likely be ideal I’m thinking. Keeps spores as clean as possible and should be pretty quick, if I pair that with a LI which is no biggie we should be good.

Everything starts at agar in this shroomroom, so I can just make a LI out of my plate and boom. I think this is going to be how I go about any breeding projects I do.


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Edited by misterswisher (07/13/25 12:37 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 3
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nocap said:
Top fruiting some 1/4 pint PF jars might save a small amount of time by skipping the agar step.


PF Tek is fastest and use a smaller size jar.

Why not do both at the same time? Play with agar while you wait.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Floret]
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I've been having trouble with my tubs lately after trying out a different brand of coir. It was cheap, 6 bricks for $30 CAD.

Every single tub has either stalled or gotten trich, even with decent looking spawn. I don't want to say it was 100% clean mostly because I don't have pictures to back up what I put into the tubs, but there weren't any skipped grains, mycelium strands running from contamination, and it recovered within 24 hours after shaking. It certainly should be good enough to get a flush off of. The weird thing is that it's working really well with my pan trays, but I pasteurized those. Not sure if that's making the difference.

I know coco bliss is the recommended brand, but it's $150 for 10 bricks on Amazon. It's like $34 usd for the same amount from the manufacturer, but they don't ship to Canada. I really don't want to pay a 3x markup to someone's dropshipping business.

I've previously used Exo Terra and Grow!t. Exo Terra had huge strands of coir (almost stringy) and a lot of clumps. For Grow!t, the mycelium didn't colonize the substrate as one solid block it was more like a loose knit.

Before I go back to Grow!t, I thought I'd ask the Canadians here what brand are ya'll using and where do you get it? If you're using Coco Bliss, are you getting it from Amazon or somewhere else?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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I’ve used the compressed Growit blocks for years now. I rehydrate and run it through a screen because I’ve found the occasional interesting thing in the block and I like it light and fluffy. Because I’m rehydrating and screening into a garden tub the coir gets a lot of exposure to potential contamination. I store in Coir Only buckets. I get the odd contaminant but wouldn’t put that down to the product. Purchased at my local garden centre.
Maybe sterilize some grain and add it to the coir without inoculating the grain as a control? Repeat the same process but pasteurize the coir and see what if anything in the coir takes advantage of the nutrients or the pasteurization. Just use 1/4 or 1/2 pint jars to minimize waste.
Another pre coffee post, I shouldn’t do these.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 1
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Geezum cow.

When coir came out as a suggested bulk material, it was as a convenience for city dwellers. Seems like less of a convenience for those amounts, prices, & issues. 🫣

I'd just go back to free horse manure if I required some of the amounts you guys are using.

Although, proper pasteurization is required for that. That seems to be a lost art these days. When I suggest that, I get taken out back & beaten with a baton. 😅🤣


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tubernaut] * 6
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I do small grows so I don’t go through coir quickly and I don’t use manure for cubensis grows. I always have coir and vermiculite in the shed for mixing soils.
Pasteurization isn’t a lost art. Go to the exotics, zap, pan threads and see for yourself.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 6
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I fux with poo for cubes even. Making subs is a labor of love.  Akin to feeding a loved one fantastic hone cookin


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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You're good Tao, I'm aware, I'm just being a dick. Nothing but love for you.

That bucket 🪣 isn't my flavor though & some even "pasteurize" for Uber long times - not sure why when 1 hour at 140-160 was always sweet for me & less cleanup. -shrug-

I'm nicer on my other account but this one allows me to be salty. 🧂😁 I'm old.

I agree trypt, I loved making horse manure substrates & adding "spices" - Verm, coffee grounds, grass clippings - chicken manure*. Mostly a meditative practice while getting my hands dirty.

I don't do bulk anymore but I still pasteurize my casing layers. 

Chicken manure at 5% max used to get me MONSTERS. I'm curious why the pan growers aren't utilizing that for fun. Maybe they are but I haven't come across it yet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tubernaut] * 1
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I’ve done a few pans grows. I have zap genetics and I’m just started with edibles so I’m reading those threads and stuffing my cranium with info. Manure vs fertilizer is where my head is right now.
No offence taken. It’s Sunday morning and I’m drinking coffee on the deck. Damn sudoku isn’t cooperating tho’. It’ll come.

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