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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67]
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Harpo67 said:
RoscoeReturns said:
SkanskKorv said:
:whathesaid:
I'm not experienced enough to tell you that it is for certain but as far as I know you want a high Co2 level during colonisation and that's why you use the tape then you open the tape up to give it FAE ie more oxygen to trigger pinning and I've seen many people having growth issues due to a lack of FAE, including myself.

I use a water tub and there isn't anything filtering the air coming into it since the tub isn't as exposed to contamination after the colonisation phase so it's common to have open air coming into the FC and there is no real need to filter it after you've engaged fruiting at least.



Most prefer fruiting conditions as soon as we spawn. No need for reduced airflow for colonization with cubes.

I do agree that those holes are likely too big to just rip off the tape. I use micropore to dial in my tubs. In Summer I need a few 1/4” holes open. In Winter with much drier air I can cover most of the with micropore to prevent drying out.



I spawned 2 quart jars to 4 quarts coir. It colonized very nicely. Once it did that I should have opened up FAE with 1/4 inch holes?



What you did is fine. What I’m saying is use the micropore tape to adjust the air/evaporation to keep good surface conditions in your climate, then leave them like that from the time you spawn to substrate until you harvest. We don’t all live in the same climate. My hole configuration might not work well for anyone else. That is what I would use the tape for. I don’t find value in changing configurations from colonization to fruiting. For my workflow it’s all one thing after spawning, and that is fruiting. Colonization happens first, then it fruits, but my tubs are set up to maintain good surface conditions throughout the process. It’s just easier to not have to keep track of and change tubs during the process. Plus I and others have shown there is no real benefit to restricting airflow for colonization to occur.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tubernaut] * 1
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tubernaut said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
It's one of the reasons I want to get a flow hood. My sab is too small to work with bags, so I'm stuck doing it the old fashioned way.



I'd weigh that in my mind if I were you - not the worst problem to ponder/fantasize about throughout the day. Haha. I guess it all depends on how much spawn you want to create/have space for. One quart to one large spawn bag is somewhat tedious but certainly doable in most SABs. A dozen jars = a dozen bags is a lot of spawn. A dozen quarts is a years worth of magic for me. 🪄

I mean, you can always get a BIG SAB and find a way to make it work (bag-to-bag) but I understand 'elbow room' & the feeling of sweet relief freedom that comes with a flow hood - it's a real thing. 😎🤣

I'm just yapping and spit balling from an older guy tossing food salad for thought - don't mind me - but when I got a flowhood (ffu is smaller/lighter, I think) it was awesome but it was bulky, heavy, heat up the room & my zealous use had me SWIMMING in spawn with no place to fruit. "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."  I've been much happier now that I'm cooking up smaller, more intimate batches in my SAB.




Just wanted to chime in here and say that I've seen people put their sabs over like a deep sink or something which makes it a lot bigger and more room to work around with or even make a dub tub style sab with big 120qt tubs which would also allow you more room to work with your bags and everything. If sab is the route you're needing to go with of course.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Raspberry Pi is pretty cool for little projects like time lapse too.  My devices are currently in use for home automation, but I’ve been kicking around the idea of grabbing another for cult…

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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nocap said:
Raspberry Pi is pretty cool for little projects like time lapse too.  My devices are currently in use for home automation, but I’ve been kicking around the idea of grabbing another for cult…



If you don't have one running as a PiHole, you are missing out! Secure DNS filtering for your whole network, stomps out lots of ads along with pretty much all telemetry, tracking, and other data stealing BS.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Sure do!  Great call out.  Got another running Octoprint and hooked up to an old Ender.  Really want a Bambu though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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My gf hates the PiHole. Every time she asks why a site doesn't work, I respond "because it's janky".


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Same. :lol: I have had to whitelist a few things or shuffle some devices over to a less secure IoT or guest network. :shrug:

Thwarts most of the junk though.  Highly recommend.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Need help detecting contamination. These aren't growing in a uniform pattern or look weird in some areas.

Reishi

x7x+




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: evercloserutopia] * 1
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Don't know reishi, so can't help with that one, but the "weird" patch reminds me of how a plate can look if my transfer piece rolls or I try to position it in the middle.

For the x7x+



I would take a new transfer from the good plates, it's a little weird it hasn't colonized the transfer piece, but yeah, pick the best looking part from either or both of the good plates and do another transfer.

For det bad ones, you could do a cabin if you feel comfortable doing it, but if they are all x7x+ I wouldn't bother, well maybe for practice, but yeah not necessary :biggrin:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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🫡 thanks!

Was hoping for success with only 1 transfer, but a decent few seem to have been spotty. My technique still needs a lot of work.
I've only done GP, S2A, and T1 for now.

I do have notes about Cabin Sequestering. I almost bought the glass slides, so I could do the original method before I stopped myself from continuing to do frivolous purchases. 😅 If I do it, it'll probably just be with an agar roof for now.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: evercloserutopia]
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There a recent post about “trenching” that should do the trick as well.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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evercloserutopia said:
Reishi





It's been awhile since I had that on a plate.  But here's a link to a photo. Might be more in that thread.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11638889#11638889


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: evercloserutopia]
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evercloserutopia said:
🫡 thanks!

Was hoping for success with only 1 transfer, but a decent few seem to have been spotty. My technique still needs a lot of work.
I've only done GP, S2A, and T1 for now.

I do have notes about Cabin Sequestering. I almost bought the glass slides, so I could do the original method before I stopped myself from continuing to do frivolous purchases. 😅 If I do it, it'll probably just be with an agar roof for now.



:lol: I can relate to that man, I buy a lot of shit I don't need, especially for cultivating and brewing :muppet:

And I do have slides, but several bad ass growers around these halls say agar roof works just as well, so for the three last cabins I've done that to see if I can get the same results with agar roof, because it's less work :awesomenod:

And they look good for T1, and I have sent some T1 to grains, but I've also had some persistent scalloping plates I took through 2 cabins and didn't see grains before T8 :eek: What I try do do is have enough projects at different stages going at the same time, that way if I run in to a problem with something, it doesn't halt the whole "operation".

Then again that is easy saying when I have more then enough shrooms. You'll get there in no time though and with that some of the SAB pressure go away and sterile technique gets better :rockon:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk]
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What is "agar roof"? And how is it different than cabin sequestering?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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== methinks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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tryptkaloids said:
What is "agar roof"? And how is it different than cabin sequestering?


In the original paper on cabin sequestering they use glass roof for the cabin, a lot of people here use agar as a roof. So it's the same tek, but not everybody agrees that they work the same way.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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TIL I learned about glass roofs and will be mindful of my stone throwing.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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I live in a glass house but I eat the stones. Stained glass is purdy. 🤩🫶🏻


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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Quote:
What you did is fine. What I’m saying is use the micropore tape to adjust the air/evaporation to keep good surface conditions in your climate, then leave them like that from the time you spawn to substrate until you harvest. We don’t all live in the same climate. My hole configuration might not work well for anyone else. That is what I would use the tape for. I don’t find value in changing configurations from colonization to fruiting. For my workflow it’s all one thing after spawning, and that is fruiting. Colonization happens first, then it fruits, but my tubs are set up to maintain good surface conditions throughout the process. It’s just easier to not have to keep track of and change tubs during the process. Plus I and others have shown there is no real benefit to restricting airflow for colonization to occur.



Possibly a light bulb moment for me, so thank you. I have been doing it wrong and all the holes on my 3 tubs have been covered with micropore tape. My house has been running at about 60% humidity so I think the holes could be bigger than if the humidity was 10%, right? Higher the humidity the larger the holes could be to allow air to flow. Generally speaking.

My PE tub did manage to give me a nice first flush but they were all blobs. I just punched some holes for the second flush and there are a few more normal looking pins so maybe I'll get something better this time.

The JMF tub has colonized but not pinned yet. I punched holes there so fingers crossed.

Maybe I'll have this dialed in like a pro soon.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67]
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Moving this question out of the picture of the day thread.

nocap said:
I’ve been wrong before, and right now could be another one of those times…

But, I don’t think that a clone is necessarily an isolate.  Especially if starting from spore and haven’t been chasing sectors on agar.



It seems you are right, but then again, we clone. My quick question is, is there a write up on cloning that doesn't involve reading +300 pages papers with scary words I don't understand?


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