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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How long do you guys dehydrate pan cyans for and at what temperature?

I have a small jar of TTBVI from April and I checked on them today and I noticed they were bendy so I put them back in the dehydrator at around 65 degrees celcius (149 fahrenheit). I went out which was supposed to be just for a few hours but something came up so I couldn't come back home until 3am. So they were in the dehydrator for almost or around 9 hours or so. The TTBVI looks darker now as if it got a little burnt, not really bad though but I am worried I killed off a lot of the potency by redehydrating them for that long, and I'm not sure if the temp was too high.

I actually tried this batch of TTBVI last week and they were good. I'm hoping they didn't lose potency.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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do I need to pseudo-case (coir) APE when the surface is mostly colonized?  I did a pretty firm pack with a wet top layer at spawn.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 1
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That time and temperature in the dehydrator is fine. But you may have lost some potency when they weren't fully dehydrated.  Depending on how long and how much moisture was in them.

That said, friend gave me a bunch of bendy cubes one time and they were plenty potent still.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 2
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dinosaurs said:
do I need to pseudo-case (coir) APE when the surface is mostly colonized?  I did a pretty firm pack with a wet top layer at spawn.


Nah. I consider a top layer at spawn synonymous to a pseudo case, ape doesnt have the issues pe does


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Edited by tryptkaloids (06/21/25 03:56 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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it would have been the re-hydration that risked any potency, as water is an oxidant. 

dry mushrooms can be frozen or deep fried and still be effective.  wet mushrooms subjected to temps > ~0c and < ~100c will result in rapid oxidation of the actives as cell walls rupture from the water changing state.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Mackload said:
if you let a streak plate grow out and take transfers a year later, will it be one dominant culture, or still very multicultural so to speak


By that point it might be multi-species :lol:

It's the same as if it was a fresh streak plate, very multi.


:lol:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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good to know; thank you.  I found a pseudo-casing when the surface is colonized really benefitted my squat mac, resulting in much more clustering, but I really don't understand why.

how long do APEs normally take from spawn?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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4-6 weeks depending on temps


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
good to know; thank you.  I found a pseudo-casing when the surface is colonized really benefitted my squat mac, resulting in much more clustering, but I really don't understand why.

how long do APEs normally take from spawn?


Im sure it helps most things tbh. Creates a nice microcimate right at the surface. Timing it right after primordia forms seems to be helpful for varieties that like to mutate


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I'm working with a new brand of coir. I weighed the brick and multiplied it by 4.2. The coir came out well below field capacity. Like light brown and barely moist. I plan to experiment to find the right multiple, but what's the highest number people have found to work with other brands? IIRC, cocobliss is something like 4.6. Has anyone found a brand that goes above 5?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I'm working with a new brand of coir. I weighed the brick and multiplied it by 4.2. The coir came out well below field capacity. Like light brown and barely moist. I plan to experiment to find the right multiple, but what's the highest number people have found to work with other brands? IIRC, cocobliss is something like 4.6. Has anyone found a brand that goes above 5?


the generic coir from my hydro shop can do 5.3 to 5.5 depending on what you think field capacity is


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phenyl]
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Sweet ty. That helps me estimate. I have verm so if I go over, I can always dry it out a bit


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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Im growing sombrero for the first time and its pinning like the plague. It seems to have stalled though or slowed down tremendously. I have other tubs that are younger now surpassing the sombrero. I wonder if theres too many pins maybe they're competing for nutrients leading to slowed growth? Not sure this is very new to me.





Has anyone experienced anything like this before?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 5T1NKYF1NG3R5]
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they look aborted, not exactly sure why it happens but i’ve definitely seen tubs exactly like that stalled out. there are probably quite a few reasons it happens but sometimes i think the substrate doesn’t have the water to support the flush & it kind of just aborts. that tub is probably a bit far gone to salvage completely now, but for the future bottom watering can help with super dense pin sets like that. could give it a good soak & see what happens :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 5T1NKYF1NG3R5] * 3
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That is an absolutely gorgeous pinset though. Im sorry for your loss.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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ThurmanMurman said:
That is an absolutely gorgeous pinset though. Im sorry for your loss.


Same




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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No offense to anyone im just hoping y'all are wrong 😭.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 5T1NKYF1NG3R5]
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5T1NKYF1NG3R5 said:
Im growing sombrero for the first time and its pinning like the plague. It seems to have stalled though or slowed down tremendously. I have other tubs that are younger now surpassing the sombrero. I wonder if theres too many pins maybe they're competing for nutrients leading to slowed growth? Not sure this is very new to me.





Has anyone experienced anything like this before?


5T1NKYF1NG3R5 said:
No offense to anyone im just hoping y'all are wrong 😭.



If they’ve been like that for more than a day - two days they’re goners sadly. It’s definitely a moisture thing that pinsets heavy asf. You can dry bottom watering but I wouldn’t be surprised if all those pins get eaten by the myc


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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I picked a fruit today that had a bit of pink coloration at the base. Should I just throw it out, and should I worry about the other fruits? It's reminiscent of the pink mold that's grows in a shower. Out of the 4-5 fruits I picked it was the only one that had it.



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Edited by sprnk (06/21/25 08:33 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprnk]
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sprnk said:
I picked a fruit today that had a bit of pink coloration at the base. Should I just throw it out, and should I worry about the other fruits? It's reminiscent of the pink mold that's grows in a shower. Out of the 4-5 fruits I picked it was the only one that had it.




I would be more concerned about the pink mold in the shower, I've seen that shit in my children's outdoor plastic pool, but the shower? Time to clean the shower with some bleach yo :muppet:

The fruits is probably fine after dehydration or boil in a pot.


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