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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
2x2 is fine but youll want 2x4

its like a grow light or a gfx card or a dildo.

youll go with the mid range and instantly regret not getting that bigger one.

:naughty:


ya i got the 2x2 chinese one when u made that ffu thread of power and i wish i would have went with the 2x4

when the thing finally dies ill get a 2x4 for sure


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∴Genetics Info∴Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Native Americans∴

∴The Official Woodlovers Thread∴Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation∴

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 1
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Welp 2x4 it is it seems.
Any brand to recommend? I can splurge 2000$ if it's worth it.

Cheers


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wow

Edited by Tropical (06/18/25 09:30 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
Welp 2x4 it is it seems.
Any brand to recommend? I can splurge 2000$ if it's worth it.

Cheers


Check out the thread, fast forward near the end.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27326209

Tldr: the Chinese ones are decent, watch the rated particle size.


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
exotic indexes: Ps zapotecorum varieties, Ps papuana
my grow logs: Ps neoxalapensis, Ps baeocystis, Ps papuana

Edited by wavyedge (06/18/25 09:32 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 4
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I Because I

catnip40 said:
few pages too late but i stand with Dr. Smoke (not my puppet account obviously)





That's enough horsin around, pal.

The Tao said:
I
Dr. Smoke said:
tryptkaloids said:
Why you gatekeeping?
Dr. Smoke said:
  Never heard of spongey stipes with driers?  There is a reason for spongey, but it's a secret now, as well as what to do after.



Because I am attacked whenever I offer new teks and disrupt the orthodoxy.  It is my info and my right.  Progress is made only in a safe space.

I will not put up with horseshit and disrespectfulness from kids.  There is too much vitriol everywhere else, and here at least it should be banned, but it is not.  This forum puts forward as a place to learn, and that can only happen when bullies are knocked silly.  When I have to, I will happily do the knocking.


Did you just threaten members with violence?


Thinks he's being bullied but Stipe and Piggy aren't even here yet.




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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Edited by ThurmanMurman (06/18/25 09:38 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge]
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bit of a blog post here applying logic which others may disagree with:

so we are lucky in that mushrooms don't seem to be as chemically complex as something like cannabis, where you have overtly psychoactive substances and then terpines that seem to have a potentiation/entourage effect.  I know there's thought to be perhaps 1-2 additional minor actives in some mushrooms but I always come back to maria sabina's statements on her experiences with the Indo-cybin, and that it was identical to cubes.  her experience somewhat validates the theory that the entire (cubensis) mushroom experience is psilocybin. 

that said, there's "enough" data on how psilocybin and psilocin oxidize and under what conditions it is stable or not.  based on what I've seen, there's not going to be an appreciable difference between ambient air dried fruits and ones dried at ~160.

the water in mushrooms is the entire catalyst for loss of potency.  heat or cool the mushroom too much, the water changes state, ruptures cells, and you get oxidation of actives.  thats why you can freeze or deep fry dry fruits and they still work, but freezing or over-heating fresh fruit ruins them.  the difference you're experiencing between fresh and dry is IMO just the inherent oxidization that comes with *any* method of drying.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 9
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when it comes to hardware youll use for years i say spend the dough.

but also i have no issues with my $500 chinese made honda civic of an ffu



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:hypnotoad:
Making Liquid Culture :  Go insane with LC
Mushboy likes these teks : Making shroom tea
Dank Education

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
Welp 2x4 it is it seems.
Any brand to recommend? I can splurge 2000$ if it's worth it.

Cheers


If u aren't looking to cheap out and wanna spend that much terrauniversal are very nice ffu

I think the model I was eyeing was a whisper flow but they might be 2x3

SAM/cleanroom international have some nice ffu too


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∴Genetics Info∴Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Native Americans∴

∴The Official Woodlovers Thread∴Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation∴

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 2
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catnip40 said:



What did catnip mean by this :strokebeard:


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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mushboy said:
when it comes to hardware youll use for years i say spend the dough.

but also i have no issues with my $500 chinese made honda civic of an ffu




Yeah I would say spend less (as opposed to envirco Mac 10 or similar) on a Chinese unit if you can get one that can get 0.3 micron.


dinosaurs said:
bit of a blog post here applying logic which others may disagree with:

so we are lucky in that mushrooms don't seem to be as chemically complex as something like cannabis, where you have overtly psychoactive substances and then terpines that seem to have a potentiation/entourage effect.  I know there's thought to be perhaps 1-2 additional minor actives in some mushrooms but I always come back to maria sabina's statements on her experiences with the Indo-cybin, and that it was identical to cubes.  her experience somewhat validates the theory that the entire (cubensis) mushroom experience is psilocybin. 

that said, there's "enough" data on how psilocybin and psilocin oxidize and under what conditions it is stable or not.  based on what I've seen, there's not going to be an appreciable difference between ambient air dried fruits and ones dried at ~160.

the water in mushrooms is the entire catalyst for loss of potency.  heat or cool the mushroom too much, the water changes state, ruptures cells, and you get oxidation of actives.  thats why you can freeze or deep fry dry fruits and they still work, but freezing or over-heating fresh fruit ruins them.  the difference you're experiencing between fresh and dry is IMO just the inherent oxidization that comes with *any* method of drying.


Is there a question in there?


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
exotic indexes: Ps zapotecorum varieties, Ps papuana
my grow logs: Ps neoxalapensis, Ps baeocystis, Ps papuana

Edited by wavyedge (06/18/25 09:39 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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I'm esoteric posting again


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∴Genetics Info∴Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Native Americans∴

∴The Official Woodlovers Thread∴Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation∴

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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nocap said:
@nektar - do you take the jars out while PC is still hot or leaving them inside until fully cooled?  I could see that making a difference.


After 2 hours at 15-20 PSI, I move I turn off PC, let it sit a little, move it to a non-hot burner, and put a tea pot on the hot burner for safety.

I let the pressure gauge go to 0, then let it cool another 20 min or so. I open the top, use pot holder and remove the jars one by one, wiping them with paper towels, and set on counter until room temp, then take to flowhood and inoculate with agar slices.

If I'm doing agar in PC, after 25 to 30 min at 15 to 20 PSI, I do the same of letting it cool.

Then using pot holders, I carry the warm (not scalding) PC with lid on into my shroom work area with my FlowHood.

I remove the lid, take out one jar still warm to put in front ot flowhood, put lid back on. I do that for each jar while pouring. Keeping in PC with lid on keeps it from gelling and keeps out more dust or contam. (Though I only open the jar lids in front of the flowhood)

Substitute SAB for Flowhood if you're using an SAB.

And keep in mind to vent PC steam for 10 min to remove air before putting on stopcock at the start of all this.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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Is 194 degrees fahrenheit too hot to dehydrate cubes? That's the highest my dehydrator goes. Will they lose potency? The new strains I've been having haven't been dehydrating all the way. The last time I cranked it up all the way to 194 degrees it looked like it burnt the fuck out of my fruits but I'm not sure if it lost potency.

I noticed my dehydrator goes higher in temp than most dehydrators I see on here. What temp would you guys dehydrate at with a dehydrator like mine? Would yall crank it up all the way?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
catnip40 said:



What did catnip mean by this :strokebeard:


I have that same thought almost daily. Im convinced it's just a modified Kansas City Shuffle.


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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Mr. Hobbit, have you nothing to say about the above?


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Psilocybe Taxonomy

Panæolus Species

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_of_Reflection


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Official Ps papuana Cultivation Thread
exotic indexes: Ps zapotecorum varieties, Ps papuana
my grow logs: Ps neoxalapensis, Ps baeocystis, Ps papuana

Edited by wavyedge (06/18/25 09:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge]
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wavyedge said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_of_Reflection


redact that

talk about a rip off !

although maybe it's relevance is needed

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
I
Dr. Smoke said:
Because I am attacked whenever I offer new teks and disrupt the orthodoxy.  It is my info and my right.  Progress is made only in a safe space.

I will not put up with horseshit and disrespectfulness from kids.  There is too much vitriol everywhere else, and here at least it should be banned, but it is not.  This forum puts forward as a place to learn, and that can only happen when bullies are knocked silly.  When I have to, I will happily do the knocking.


Did you just threaten members with violence?


Yes he did, and I had to un-ignore him to report it, then re-ignore him.

I've seen people give horrible wrong advice here, and I've seen people make threats here.

But I've never seen people make threats to defend their right to give horrible advice, especially when they have no pix of their grows.

Mods rarely mod, they'll let him stay most likely.

Go back to Reddit, smoke.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 4
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nektar61 said:
Mods rarely mod, they'll let him stay most likely.



dang it man i got banned like 3 times in a row for the Mulch Cube Theory


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∴Genetics Info∴Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Native Americans∴

∴The Official Woodlovers Thread∴Outdoor Mushroom Cultivation∴

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 13
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im paid by big coir.


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:hypnotoad:
Making Liquid Culture :  Go insane with LC
Mushboy likes these teks : Making shroom tea
Dank Education

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 7
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wavyedge said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_of_Reflection


Talk about quick answers! Fascinating.

Dr. Smoke said:
Mr. Hobbit, have you nothing to say about the above?


I use a dehydrator. I recommend people use dehydrators. I don’t much care for arguments in this thread, which I foolishly hold in some kind of near-sacred high regard. Idk why. I just think maybe we shouldn’t do it here. The mound of anecdotal evidence that states dehydrators do not destroy actives is tall enough to scrape the moon. You don’t have to use one, but they don’t hurt.

I really don’t want to argue with anyone here or call names or anything.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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