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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: evercloserutopia]
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KlarnEvil9 said:
Odd question - does anyone have a preference for which part of the spore print you take your sample? Do you start at the edge? Center? Does it even matter?

My :stoned2: thinking on this is that with a larger cap/larger print, there could be some degree of diversity from edge to center.



Actually, I'm running a variation on that experiment now, by the clock.  No one's worked on this question before.



Still in germination phase.


evercloserutopia said:


Is the grain jar too wet?



The grain prints on the left side show it's too wet.

Edited by Dr. Smoke (06/18/25 05:11 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 1
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boxtrotalpha said:
Hey friends, just shook up some jars and this bad boy was looking back at me through the glass. Looks like it'd feel like cream cheese if I touched it. Jars probably destined for the compost bin right? Should I let it finish colonization seperate from the others and see what happens?





Just observe. Likely just a clump that didn't get broken up.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: magicschoolbus]
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magicschoolbus said:


Mycelium or nah? Spore print to swab to pda, streaked 3 days ago



Doesnt look great, but maybe


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Whats the hypothesis with spore distribution? Id imagine genetic diversity is radom across the print.  The inner spores should theoretically be cleaner


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #29254584 -

This is a question.

I've started doing it by the clock.  The next experiment would be inner vs outer print.  I suspicion that inner will be less mature.

Other experiments to consider, Clone from:
  • top of stipe
  • middle of stipe
  • bottom of stipe
  • inner cap
  • outer cap

... etc

I suspicion that bottom of stipe might be best.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 1
    #29254589 -

I’ll be harvesting tonight a little later wanted to ask a couple questions in case I can’t find the answers.

I have spores everywhere do these need to be cleaned off somehow?

I have a friends new digital dehydrator from cabellas. What is the time and temp I should be using? Can they go right into the dehydrator without any kind of drying out or anything?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub] * 1
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Mub said:
I’ll be harvesting tonight a little later wanted to ask a couple questions in case I can’t find the answers.

I have spores everywhere do these need to be cleaned off somehow?

I have a friends new digital dehydrator from cabellas. What is the time and temp I should be using? Can they go right into the dehydrator without any kind of drying out or anything?



Temp: 165-180 F for 24 hours. Spread the shrooms out so they're not on each other if you can, so they have more surface area reaching the air flow.

With big shrooms I break the stem off the cap to make it fit better.

I don't mind eating spores. You can wipe them off with paper towel but you'll never get it all. haha. People used to harvest shrooms right before the veil broke, so no spores.

Then we all got macho on here with posting pix of big floppy open shrooms, so...spores. You get more weight (so more drugs) if you let them open all the way, and still as strong or stronger than before veil breaks.

Anyone: guess the variety.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (06/18/25 06:44 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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spawned some new (to me) genetics and curious if anyone reading this can look at their logs and give me an idea of how the timeline breaks down for the following:

-APE

-Koh Samui Super Strain

for instance, I know my squat mac is 17 days to pins and 28 to harvest.  thanks in advance.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Mub said:
I have spores everywhere do these need to be cleaned off somehow?



When you say everywhere, do you mean in the refrigerator?  The attic?  The garage?  In your caboose?

Surely random spores will affect any future grows.  If a tub, wash it out with the hose and soap, inside and out.  Vacuum your workstation and lab.  Next time don't wait until more than 25% of fruits are dropping.

Mub said:
I have a friends new digital dehydrator from cabellas. What is the time and temp I should be using? Can they go right into the dehydrator without any kind of drying out or anything?



Yep.  tree frog is best to respond to this though.

Personally, I don't believe in heat dessicating, rather dehumidifier dessicating in a closet.  Heat destroys nice alkaloids, accounting for the vast difference in trips between wet and dry.


Full Disclosure:  I am the radical around here.


And Jesus H. Christ nektar61, it's not MiB, but Idk what...
Sp. 666?

Edited by Dr. Smoke (06/18/25 06:51 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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Thank you it’s my first ever harvest so not sure how much i’m going to take and it’s just two shoeboxes so not sure if that makes a difference. Really appreciate the help though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 1
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Thanks. Yea by everywhere just in the container all over the shrooms and sub. It was wild, saw one veil about to break Sunday night. Than boom, Monday after work fuckin spore city man.

I could be interested in that fees six ant dehydration process. How much did that setup cost you about?

Edited by Mub (06/18/25 06:54 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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I'd love to see someone with access to an LC/MSD run samples of the same genetics but dried via freeze drying, passive drying, and heat drying.  that would be interesting data that might cut through some of the theory and superstition.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 3
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Dr. Smoke said:
Personally, I don't believe in heat dessicating, rather dehumidifier dessicating in a closet.  Heat destroys nice alkaloids, accounting for the vast difference in trips between wet and dry.

Full Disclosure:  I am the radical around here.



Dr. Smoke: You are brand new here and dispensing misinformation that will ruin good shrooms. I'm putting you on ignore, and others should do the same.

You're not a radical, you're just wrong about 180 F heat destroying alkaloids. It does not.

25 years of experience from everyone here and 5 years of experience form me says you're wrong.

The shrooms I dried like early on you're suggesting that were gross mush in a closet later says your wrong.

Not using dehydrator never makes them totally dry, which invites bacteria to do their thing, even if stored with no oxygen.

Rot entirely destroys potency, and just makes shrooms into a gross mess no one would not want to eat.



The difference in potency of wet and dry shrooms is psilocin is not as stable as psilocybin. Shrooms have both, but with time, psilocin degrades to inert. Even more if your shrooms are wet.

Have you ever grown a shroom? I see no photos you've posted.

Quote:
Dr. Smoke said:Jesus H. Christ nektar61, it's not MiB, but Idk what...
Sp. 666?



Haha, it's x7x+, the most sporeicious variety.


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (06/18/25 08:36 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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I bought what was supposed to be ape from a known untrusted vendor in Canada and what i have received have dark brown caps,, is there a way to identify a mushroom at home without fancy lab stuff?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke]
    #29254643 -

Dr. Smoke said:
This is a question.

I've started doing it by the clock.  The next experiment would be inner vs outer print.  I suspicion that inner will be less mature.

Other experiments to consider, Clone from:
  • top of stipe
  • middle of stipe
  • bottom of stipe
  • inner cap
  • outer cap

... etc

I suspicion that bottom of stipe might be best.



How are you testing maturity of spores? How are you determining which clone is "best" as thats entirely subjective


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: renaS] * 2
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renaS said:
I bought what was supposed to be ape from a known untrusted vendor in Canada and what i have received have dark brown caps,, is there a way to identify a mushroom at home without fancy lab stuff?



It is P. Cubensis. Tell the vendor your spores werent albino.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #29254647 -

tryptkaloids said:
It is P. Cubensis. Tell the vendor your spores werent albino.



thats actually a really smart way of calling it out without giving them any opportunity to duck you because you're discussing growing them out.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: renaS] * 2
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renaS said:
I bought what was supposed to be ape from a known untrusted vendor in Canada and what i have received have dark brown caps,, is there a way to identify a mushroom at home without fancy lab stuff?



No, but an educated guess will be easier when it fully opens. Post pix then.

Looks like some kind of cube for sure.

Has some yellow metabolites which means something isn't ideal, usually bacteria, but could be too wet, but probably bacteria.

I'd put it in an outbuilding, let it grow out and post pix.

If any raccoons or skunks eat it, stand clear but get video. 


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
    #29254652 -

on their site i only see jesus christ super strain that looks like it,,but yeah will post pics  when they open,,,bacteria mostly come from my cvg that stayed in a bucket for too long and probably my tap water that has bacteria,,now i sterelize it instead of just boiling it

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
    #29254654 -

@dinosaurs ape is slow. I dont have a timeline but dont count them eggs before they hatch cuz you wont have en the weekend you want em most lol


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