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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Lately 1 out of 7 jars in my PC cycle will have a soaking wet filter. Water gets into the jar and makes a nasty puck at the bottom of the grains. This has never happened to me before.

Any ideas on the cause and how to prevent it?



This literally just happened to me last night.  Exact same thing. First time tho.


Any thoughts if the jar with the mushy bottom puck is still good to use?  It's impossible to break up that part.  The rest is good. 


Was there foil on top of the lid?


If so is was too low hanging, and wicked the water up



Nope.  Absolutely no foil.  Fuck foil.  Lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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Mackload said:
two jars toque f8 colonizing extremely slowly, I thought totally stalled, but after a second shake (and warmer temps) suddenly took off, colonized the jars in two days, except for those clumps. probably bacteria? maybe top fruit?




That looks like killer spawn.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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:thanx:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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PF Tek jar pinning AND not 100% colonized.

Birth now, or wait for 100% colonization?







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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student]
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Got a question that may be a no brainer to some but not for me. Basically I mistimed my grain prep, the plate I was intending on using is pretty much close to or at the side of the plate. It's not growing up it. Am I being ocd or should I be concerned about contam on the walls of the plate and just cut a circle around it and only use the center of the agar? Plate prep was done in a sab and left  for 2 weeks prior to use, all other work done in front of a tested ffu.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student]
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I’d birth now, tall skinny jars tend to do that. That’s why wide mouth half pints are preferred.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Meanwhile]
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callmehippie said:
Nope.  Absolutely no foil.  Fuck foil.  Lol


Well, there's your problem.  Permeable filters allow moisture in to the jar while sterilizing, unless you're using a one-way filter like tyvek.  You need foil, my friend.  And if you use tyvek, put it on the right way, to allow internal moisture out and gasses in/out, and keep external moisture out, in which case you do not need foil.  You're sterilizing with steam.


humble student said:
PF Tek jar pinning AND not 100% colonized.

Birth now, or wait for 100% colonization?





Not 100%?  Could be contam.  But still I'd GO! GO! GO!  Try to exclude uncolonized.



Meanwhile said:
Got a question that may be a no brainer to some but not for me. Basically I mistimed my grain prep, the plate I was intending on using is pretty much close to or at the side of the plate. It's not growing up it. Am I being ocd or should I be concerned about contam on the walls of the plate and just cut a circle around it and only use the center of the agar? Plate prep was done in a sab and left  for 2 weeks prior to use, all other work done in front of a tested ffu.


Assuming you'd bought sterile plates, which you should always look for, it's not a problem to crawl up the sides.  But still it's time to shoot it to grain.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
tryptkaloids said:
I like to put the faster ones in the fridge for a few days while the others catch up


Mub said:






Those there pics are two different tubs. I was reading to harvest when the veils break which obviously some have. Also searched and read to not harvest at different times, or also to do whatever you want lol. So what is the most popular method?

Also I was hoping to not harvest til Wednesday as that’s when I should have my dehydrator. What is the best method for storing dry or even fresh mushies?




Very important to remember when putting them in the refrigerator to store and they are fresh. that you put them in a brown paper baggie not anything plastic.



So glad I saw this thank you. Should be doing my first harvest and dehydration today and hopefully making some micro doses Thursday.

Anyone have good harvesting tips or teks to pass a long before i do that later? I saw some people used scissors I was thinking of going that route, I have a nice sharp pair of kitchen shears.

Edited by Mub (06/18/25 12:21 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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Quote:
Assuming you'd bought sterile plates, which you should always look for, it's not a problem to crawl up the sides.  But still it's time to shoot it to grain.


I reuse pyrex dishes. Just sterilized in the oven for x amount of hours. I have a very low contam rate on freshly poured plates. Honestly can't remember the last time I had a fresh one contam after 2 weeks of sitting.


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Edited by Meanwhile (06/18/25 12:30 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 3
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The Tao said:
I use these humidity indicator cards. The circle turns pink when the humidity goes above 10%, the blue rectangle is the control colour. I bring them home from work. They get tossed after reagents packs are empty.
I reset them in a dehydrator while I dry the desiccant packs. Takes the guesswork out of what’s dry and sealed and what isn’t.



I use this, works great.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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Thanks, The Tao, you helped me learn the difference between short Vs tall half-pint jars in a previous post:). I'm working through the 12 jars purchased from a vendor, and they're the tall ones :um:.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student]
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Wash off any uncolonised spots


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Lately 1 out of 7 jars in my PC cycle will have a soaking wet filter. Water gets into the jar and makes a nasty puck at the bottom of the grains. This has never happened to me before.

Any ideas on the cause and how to prevent it?



This literally just happened to me last night.  Exact same thing. First time tho.


Any thoughts if the jar with the mushy bottom puck is still good to use?  It's impossible to break up that part.  The rest is good. 


Was there foil on top of the lid?


If so is was too low hanging, and wicked the water up



Nope.  Absolutely no foil.  Fuck foil.  Lol



Well then maybe that's the problem 🤔

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
Nope.  Absolutely no foil.  Fuck foil.  Lol


Well then maybe that's the problem 🤔


Agree.  Foil use should probably be a starting point in the troubleshooting of this issue. 

Might also suggest prompt removal from PC after cycle completes so that everything is still nice and warm and steaming.  Crack the PC lid open shortly after pressure drops.  Remove the PC lid completely a bit after that. Once the jars are out of the PC, they should be dry in just a few moments.  Foil could be removed at the same time to guarantee no condensation between foil and jar lid.

Caution: Don't place the jars on a solid, cooler temperature surface directly, or they may crack from too rapid of cooling.  A wire rack is the preferred tool for the task and provides enough air clearance (insulation) to protect the jars.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Somethings that may or may not be contributing to the problem.

My stove no longer works on high heat. This has added an extra 40 minutes or so to the whole process. Potentially leaving more time for water to pool up before becoming steam?

I’m elevating my trivet on jar rings, which I haven’t done before. One ring is a different size than the others. Could this make it uneven, maybe causing pooling?

New PC. I doubt this is a factor, but it started after getting a new PC so maybe?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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If new PC is same make/model, then I would not expect that to be significant either.  Else, it would be curious to note the position of the affected jars relative to the PC as was previously suggested.  While I can't confidently comment on the mismatched jar rings, I do suspect the levelness (or not) of the PC lid would be more impactful than that of the interior trivet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Hey friends, just shook up some jars and this bad boy was looking back at me through the glass. Looks like it'd feel like cream cheese if I touched it. Jars probably destined for the compost bin right? Should I let it finish colonization seperate from the others and see what happens?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Mycelium or nah? Spore print to swab to pda, streaked 3 days ago


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: magicschoolbus]
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Odd question - does anyone have a preference for which part of the spore print you take your sample? Do you start at the edge? Center? Does it even matter?

My :stoned2: thinking on this is that with a larger cap/larger print, there could be some degree of diversity from edge to center.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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Is the grain jar too wet?

These are test jars to check my process.
They haven't been inoculated and are about 3 days old.

Did 20min simmer, 1 hour strain, and 3 hours in the instapot.

Currently doing 2 more jars, but with a 24-hour strain instead.

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