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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Trying to decide what to grow next. 

Anyone care to enable my laziness and ELI5 the difference between (taking not cultivating) pans, ochres, tamps, semps, etc…

I see all the dedicated threads with cult teks, so no problem to hop over there once it’s time to get started.  But I’m having decision paralysis between the numerous options.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MN_John]
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MN_John said:


Can someone tell me if this is normal? Very new at this. It's a B+ fruiting bag that I ordered. Their instructions never have you cut it open to fruit as it has a patch. However, I cut it open and put it in a humidity controlled monotub 21 days ago. It's looked a lot like this for the past 2 weeks, but no pins.  RH=87-90% Temp=67f (can't raise rh more due to condensation, would need a space heater to raise temp).  Any ideas?  Or is this all normal?




Check out This here  by beef. That's about rescuing a all-in-one bag that isn't doing what it's supposed to.

It may help. 

:cheers:


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Edited by callmehippie (06/09/25 04:24 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I'm a little confused when I should be capturing spore prints. This guy broke his veil a couple of days ago but I haven't seen any spores on the stipe yet so I've left him in the tub.



Is he ready to print? Am I just not seeing spores because he's upside down?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pineapples7] * 2
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You will have to use a spore swab to get spores, a normal sporulating cap would have dumped spores by now.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LyleChipperson] * 2
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LyleChipperson said:
I didn't have enough SFDs to make proper lids for drying grains for storage so I just ran a test batch of grains in glass petris. Initially I wrapped them but that was a pretty obvious bad move, so then I unwrapped them and put them in my dehydrator while I was using it to dry some mint on the racks above the plates. In 48 hrs they were completely dried.

I just transferred the dried grains to sterile cryovials and put a single grain to agar to check for contaminants so I'll have some results soon.


Looks good so far, maybe the glass lid was heavy enough to not allow the dehydrator air to get inside the petri. I'll do another trial today with a different culture.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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nocap said:
Trying to decide what to grow next. 

Anyone care to enable my laziness and ELI5 the difference between (taking not cultivating) pans, ochres, tamps, semps, etc…

I see all the dedicated threads with cult teks, so no problem to hop over there once it’s time to get started.  But I’m having decision paralysis between the numerous options.


Since you're looking for physical experiences, I can only speak to Ochras since they're the only ones from your list that I've tried.

Ochras in small doses are mellow, but get really intense at higher doses especially if you make tea with a tsp of pure citric acid.

At high doses there is a lot of involuntary physical movements like head shaking and twitching. Getting up and moving around helps.

The visuals are extremely intense, I couldn't read my TV at even close range.

Next time I take a large dose I'm going to put some music on and go for a walk. I get the impression that they're an outdoor trip, not an indoor trip.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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So does agar help we shrooms be consistent in potency or no.

I just started agar and other than eliminating contamination was t sure what other positives there are.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 3
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Agar can allow you to save genetics and narrow down good, potent, well producing clones. Takes time and work to find. I encourage you to look into proper culture storage processes.

Agar helps you clean cultures, expand them ad infinitum or just store them for a long time.

The main idea is to keep a young, clean 'mother' culture (for lack of a better term) in storage to refer back to in case something happens, or the clone sucks more than the tub it came from etc. The more and more you expand a culture itll eventually start to break down (senesence) so you can then go back to the younger version and start over without having to germinate spores

Cleaning and Keeping cultures, taking clones, expanding myc. These are the main benefits of agar.

Finding good clones can help standardize potency as you are narrowing genetics


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 4
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nocap said:
Trying to decide what to grow next. 

Anyone care to enable my laziness and ELI5 the difference between (taking not cultivating) pans, ochres, tamps, semps, etc…

I see all the dedicated threads with cult teks, so no problem to hop over there once it’s time to get started.  But I’m having decision paralysis between the numerous options.


I've tried cubes, ochras, pan cyans and subtrops. Cubes are too mild for me potency wise. Ochras are the only mushrooms so far where I see ancient patterns overlayed on furniture etc when looking close. It's also the mushroom where I ate 7g one time and didn't have a good time but ultimately it's what made me get married :wink:

Subtrops have given me the most magical, euphoric and kind experiences even on very large doses. They grow for so long that you get to have a supply of fresh mushrooms for a long time. It's also the only mushroom that has some strange fresh taste that seems to fill all of my mucous membranes in mouth and nose with it. Almost like eating garlic.

I haven't eaten enough pan cyan ttbvi to be able to comment on experiences but if you want an absurdly fast and potent growing mushroom that smells like sperm, then that's the perfect mushroom.

Ultimately I recommend to grow them all :amanita2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 1
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any pe variety :mushroom2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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What's a rough estimate for how long it will take to see colonization of grains from a LC? It's GT culture on oats and the jars are living in my garage which is probably around 80° freedom units (not sure Celsius conversion)

Should I expect it to take about as long as my agar trays or will the grains and FAE speed the process up?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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I’m not sure if your asking about the speed of spawned  grain or not but colonizing the grain shouldn’t have any fae


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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Sorry, I may have been unclear. I inoculated the jars with an LC syringe. Should they not have filtered gas exchange holes?

The question was about time to colonize a grain jar after LC inoculation


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 1
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boxtrotalpha said:
Sorry, I may have been unclear. I inoculated the jars with an LC syringe. Should they not have filtered gas exchange holes?

The question was about time to colonize a grain jar after LC inoculation


Really depends on the strain.

Most of my LC of GT I see it starting to form around day 3. Usually do a first shake  day 7 and then 7 days later one more to make sure I’m good then spawn it. Takes me bout 17 days from inoc to spawn


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 1
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boxtrotalpha said:
Sorry, I may have been unclear. I inoculated the jars with an LC syringe. Should they not have filtered gas exchange holes?

The question was about time to colonize a grain jar after LC inoculation


Yes sorry should be faster due to more inoculation points but how fast depends on how much lc was used. And yes GE is important. FAE is for fruiting


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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Word, thanks friends. Not sure how this strain will perform since it's from a vendor but I figure grains cheap enough to Yolo a few jars.

Put 2ml each to 4 jars and the other 2ml got split between 10 agar plates. Guess I'll practice a bit more patience and see how it goes. Only 4 days so far


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 2
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as far as syringes go, in my experience its been 30ish days for MSS and 14ish for LC, but that can vary a lot depending on the genetics and environmental factors.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs]
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Anyone else try using one of these to fruit in? I’m dealing with a space issue and shoeboxes mess up the air exchange when you stack them. Was thinking cling wrap over the tops of each one.

Might give it a shot


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LyleChipperson]
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LyleChipperson said:
LyleChipperson said:
I didn't have enough SFDs to make proper lids for drying grains for storage so I just ran a test batch of grains in glass petris. Initially I wrapped them but that was a pretty obvious bad move, so then I unwrapped them and put them in my dehydrator while I was using it to dry some mint on the racks above the plates. In 48 hrs they were completely dried.

I just transferred the dried grains to sterile cryovials and put a single grain to agar to check for contaminants so I'll have some results soon.


Looks good so far, maybe the glass lid was heavy enough to not allow the dehydrator air to get inside the petri. I'll do another trial today with a different culture.




I'm very interested in this I wanted to try it as well. Hope you have good results. Could you try a plastic dish as well?

I was considering using a jar lid and covering it with some Tyvek and putting the grains inside there to put in my dehydrator.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Hi,

For spores prints that are 8months old, should I do something before putting those in a syringue and inoculate BRF cakes?

Cheers


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