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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
ElGringoGrande said:
Where are y’all buying millet? I can’t find it anywhere. I’d love to try it out since people say it gets faster colonization and the prep seems easy af, but nowhere has it in bulk. I can only find those bird treat millet stick things…


Feed mills, ask for white millet.


Yep, feed store and farm store. Wild bird seed (WBS) is primarily millet and often can be easier to find depending on location.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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@Axman and @nocap thanks for the info, I’ve tried all the feed stores in town and can’t find any mills around, so I might be out of luck.

One of the feed stores said they could make an order of white millet for me if needed but maybe I’ll just try wbs. Is it any good?

Tbh I don’t really like how it looks in jars with the variety of grain colors, seems like it’d be hard to notice contam, but if people use it with success I’ll give it a shot

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 2
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I don’t have personal experience with WBS either. Just seen a lot of people on here using it. My feed store has to order the millet as well, but if I let them know by Monday morning then they will have it later that same week. Bonus - I get to support a local small business.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 1
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WBS works fine, I've used it for a while, the main reason I use Rye is I can get a 50lb bag for $12 locally, which is nominally less expensive than birdseed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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Axman said:
MycCycle said:
Potion_Seller said:
Ran my brown rice jars through the instant pot on high for 2.5 hours last night. Today I read about venting all of the air out first. I definitely didn’t do that. Should I just dump these jars and start over?



Proud of this one: To vent, or not to vent? - Comparison

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Also don't Insta Pots only reach like 12-13psi so you'd need to run for longer than 2.5hrs?


I utilize 2 8-quart Duo Instant Pot to process whole oats, which allows me to fill eight quart jars simultaneously. The cooking duration is set for just 2.5 hours. I ensure to let the pot vent until a consistent and steady stream of steam is produced before I flip the switches up. Throughout my experience, I've processed two 40-pound bags of triple-clean whole oats, and I've only encountered a few jars with contamination. I'm nearly certain that the issue stemmed from not distinguishing between clean plates and those that may have been suspect and not my sterilization in instant pots.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog] * 2
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Arkyhog said:
Axman said:
Also don't Insta Pots only reach like 12-13psi so you'd need to run for longer than 2.5hrs?


I utilize 2 8-quart Duo Instant Pot to process whole oats, which allows me to fill eight quart jars simultaneously. The cooking duration is set for just 2.5 hours. I ensure to let the pot vent until a consistent and steady stream of steam is produced before I flip the switches up. Throughout my experience, I've processed two 40-pound bags of triple-clean whole oats, and I've only encountered a few jars with contamination. I'm nearly certain that the issue stemmed from not distinguishing between clean plates and those that may have been suspect and not my sterilization in instant pots.


To be fair, Im only putting forth info I've read, I personally have never used an IP.

I've considered getting an insta pot for sterilizing utensils and agar. Im sure it would be nice for small batch grain as well.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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Axman said:
Arkyhog said:
Axman said:
Also don't Insta Pots only reach like 12-13psi so you'd need to run for longer than 2.5hrs?


I utilize 2 8-quart Duo Instant Pot to process whole oats, which allows me to fill eight quart jars simultaneously. The cooking duration is set for just 2.5 hours. I ensure to let the pot vent until a consistent and steady stream of steam is produced before I flip the switches up. Throughout my experience, I've processed two 40-pound bags of triple-clean whole oats, and I've only encountered a few jars with contamination. I'm nearly certain that the issue stemmed from not distinguishing between clean plates and those that may have been suspect and not my sterilization in instant pots.


To be fair, Im only putting forth info I've read, I personally have never used an IP.

I've considered getting an insta pot for sterilizing utensils and agar. Im sure it would be nice for small batch grain as well.


Another +1 for the IP. I found an almost brand new one in the garbage and now for 3 months straight I've been rocking no prep oats straight from the bag and only had one issue due to some bad LI. Set for 2.5 hours, walk away and let it vent on its own. No need to worry about keeping an eye on it like I do with my 2 prestos. I can only fit 3 per run but it's so easy I'll run a batch every night and then at the end of the week I have 15 jars that are ready for my hood session.

Maybe that's not enough for some people but it's been working out great for me.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 1
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I did just get agar material in the mail so I could do that... It's all just a lot at once. Plus I'm a beginner so in classic beginner fashion I'm impatient.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Potion_Seller] * 3
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You’re not already making potions that are only for the strongest beings?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Imo oats are more reliant and give better results


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Yes my potions are only for the strongest and I have yet to tap into the power of fungi such is my prowess in potioncraft.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Potion_Seller]
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When people say cyans, are they referring to Panaeolus cyanescens or Psilocybe cyanescens?

I just realized a couple days ago that P. cyans might refer to different species (and genera), in particular when Mr Piggy said they would die on the hill that Psilocybe cyanescens is the best trip.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Packerbacker12]
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instant pots are not only great for mycology, they are amazing things to have in the kitchen.  very versatile, and the community is pretty fanatical about them so there's a ton of great recipes floating around.


with regards to mycology, they can not only be used to PC prep your jars, but the "keep warm" setting is perfect for pasteurization.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Changed] * 1
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Changed said:
The Tao said:
No growth from wedges? What in the agar and what’s the actual temperature?


The Tao said:
No growth from wedges? What in the agar and what’s the actual temperature?


Golden Light DME, agar agar, water.

The wedges were kindly gifted from a user here, and they were quite well smashed in transit, so I took just a scrapping with a scalpel and transferred it.

Even now, it gets down to the 30's Fahrenheit at night here, and I keep my window open, so its probably in the 50s at night, and barely scrapping 70 outside during the day. Barely any humidity...




We're these the semps wedges from My giveaway?

If so

So far every one else that clamied has reported back positively.

I def saw some growth  between days 6-10.

Lmk if you run out of the sample without having any luck.

I have more.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprnk] * 2
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sprnk said:
.... Mr Piggy said they would die on the hill that Psilocybe cyanescens is the best trip.


Anyone new taking that advice, read up on Wood Lover Paralysis first.
https://psychedelicreview.com/wood-lover-paralysis-unsolved-mystery/

Whenever I mention this, someone gets mad, like I'm insulting their religion. But it is a real thing that happens occasionally. It's why I don't grow / eat woodlovers.

My Psilo Cyan plates on charcoal agar I threw away un-grown after I read about Wood Lover Paralysis.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprnk] * 1
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IME 'cyans' is most often used for Ps cyan, unless the context says 'pan'. If that makes any sense. We used to call pan cyans 'Blue meanies', but to add to the confusion, someone named a cube strain after that too.
But when in doubt, always ask! The species have pretty wildly diverging habits / requirements. And dosage. And I must agree with Mr. P, it's a winner. A real heavy hitter.
Pan cyans are fucking awesome too. I've come to see 'cyanescens' as a royal epithet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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nektar61 said:
sprnk said:
.... Mr Piggy said they would die on the hill that Psilocybe cyanescens is the best trip.


Anyone new taking that advice, read up on Wood Lover Paralysis first.
https://psychedelicreview.com/wood-lover-paralysis-unsolved-mystery/

Whenever I mention this, someone gets mad, like I'm insulting their religion. But it is a real thing that happens occasionally. It's why I don't grow / eat woodlovers.
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I have seen people denying it's real, but it seems like there's a lot experiences with it. Seems weird to say it doesn't exist. Also seems like from that article you just need to take an anti-histamine, which is wild

Churpee Choozle said:
IME 'cyans' is most often used for Ps cyan, unless the context says 'pan'. If that makes any sense. We used to call pan cyans 'Blue meanies', but to add to the confusion, someone named a cube strain after that too.
But when in doubt, always ask! The species have pretty wildly diverging habits / requirements. And dosage. And I must agree with Mr. P, it's a winner. A real heavy hitter.
Pan cyans are fucking awesome too. I've come to see 'cyanescens' as a royal epithet.


Thanks that does make sense. I've definitely seen people say pans cyans, I'm just dumb sometimes and wanted some clarification. I would love to cult both someday but I'm trying to get cubes down first.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprnk] * 3
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Well, Ps cyan is hardly more difficult than cubensis, if you can produce clean spawn, you can grow those. I'm currently exploring pans myself, and they are a harder nut.

Regarding WLP. I have had a lot of weird physical side effects from high doses of Ps azurescens. Couldn't climb a stair for example. Couldn't get off the floor to take a piss, when I really needed to. Got a 'lazy' left eye that drifted off when I looked in the mirror. Even the day after. I always assumed that was WLP.

Switched to Ps cyanescens, never had that stuff happen to me again. Or so I thought.

When I just joined I spent a couple of days reading the entire woodlover thread. And somewhere in that vast mass of text someone said something like: no, there's nothing special going on with woodlovers, it's more of a high dose, can't connect the dots anymore thing. It's a kind of mental short circuit.

Read back all of my trip notes. And damn. I've had 'paralysis' like symptoms on high doses of DMT. Been floored for hours on 300+ ug doses of acid. After an especially heavy cactus trip I couldn't read for an entire day, every sign just said XWTXXTTEW. Forgot which key opened the front door. Couldn't for the life of me remember how to get money out of an ATM. Was told by friends that my left eye drifted off the entire time and I looked like I had a stroke.

So for what it's worth. Ever since I've been in 'it's more of a high dose thing' camp. And it's true, I went kinda overboard with the azurescens and never dared venture that far anymore with cyans. Ps cyans.

Sorry for the overly long post


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Edited by Churpee Choozle (05/26/25 09:47 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprnk]
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So just curious what would cause stalling In this case, I have 4 tubs running right now. One has already produced, and am on flush number 2 for 3 brf bricks. They are b+ spores. Anyway, this tub has kinda stalled. Been like this for about a week, I have adjusted every level possible. More humidity. Less, more airflow. Less. Before I soak it and break it up and bury it in my yard in my sub pile. Doesn't really matter either way. As I had no idea I was going to get the insane amount of mushrooms I did. Can't even eat em all everyday :/

Those big ass balls, have been there literally since like day 2 of being in this tub. And yeah the bag shit is ugly as fuck. Kinda did it spurt of the moment. The others I let fruit anywhere. I don't care. Bottom fruits are just the same.
Lighting is good, it is in the same exact spot. As 3 others that are producing. Which leads me to believe I'm fighting some hidden contam. Or one that I'm not familiar with. Today it got isolated.

I took another pic so you can see the tub
It's got 2 holes on long sides. 1 each on short sides. Yes rn it's dry. I had lid off for like 20 min


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BlakoDako]
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Quick question regarding LC aeration - will mycelium die if I don't stir the jar after the agar wedge sinks to the bottom??

Because appx. 2 weeks ago I added a couple of inoculated grains to a jar and only the grain that was floating developed visible growth.


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