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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Poopknife] * 2
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Poopknife said:
What’s up doods, I got a question about how much to “ tamp down “ substrates for shoeboxes and monos. I’ve been messing around with different levels of compaction so to say and getting mixed results. I have a couple boxes where I tamped  down the edges more than the center of the sub and it seems like the pins like coming in heavier in those spots.



I don't tamp the sub.

The result of that thread I started (linked above by 2024-12-11), and I read every post on it carefully, seemed to be "A lot of people do, but no one has a strong reason to do it other than there's a popular tek here that says to do it."

Also some indication of "If you do it, don't pack it super tight or it's counterproductive"

But some people DO pack it tight.

Pic VAT, 16 quart tubs of y'all know what, sub not packed

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Packerbacker12] * 1
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Packerbacker12 said:
Anybody ever rock grains in the large 14a mycobags? They have the .5 micron filters. Do I need bags with .2 micron?

Anybody have weight ratios for no prep brown rice in this size bag?

Was looking all through yoshis no prep grain thread and it seems like his WBR ratio is for smaller bags but I'm not sure what size.



I would personally only use the .5 bags for substrate I'm introducing grains into for fruiting.  I use them for edibles.  Everything else (when I actually use bags) is .2. 

Would strongly advise against no-prep WBR for bags. Clumpy sticky mass of shit.  Best to be able to rinse and (most importantly) dry the outside of the rice prior to sterilization even in jars or it shakes like a dog turd.  But in bags?  Just introduce to boiling water 12min, immediately remove, rinse, and dry on a towel/screen/puppy pad/whatever  before loading.  Just my 2 cents to save you some headaches.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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First cube pins ever! looking to see if everything looks good. This is when I first saw pins Monday morning:



Here is where we’re looking this Thursday morning:


Does everything look like it’s progressing well? Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 2
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After reading through that entire thread the way I’m going to proceed for a while here is doing two shoeboxes to every strain I have going, take good notes, and see what they like! Seems like maybe a tad more if going for more flushes could be beneficial. It’s all a learning experience and I’m quite intrigued 🤔


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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alaskappalachian said:
Packerbacker12 said:
Anybody ever rock grains in the large 14a mycobags? They have the .5 micron filters. Do I need bags with .2 micron?

Anybody have weight ratios for no prep brown rice in this size bag?

Was looking all through yoshis no prep grain thread and it seems like his WBR ratio is for smaller bags but I'm not sure what size.



I would personally only use the .5 bags for substrate I'm introducing grains into for fruiting.  I use them for edibles.  Everything else (when I actually use bags) is .2. 

Would strongly advise against no-prep WBR for bags. Clumpy sticky mass of shit.  Best to be able to rinse and (most importantly) dry the outside of the rice prior to sterilization even in jars or it shakes like a dog turd.  But in bags?  Just introduce to boiling water 12min, immediately remove, rinse, and dry on a towel/screen/puppy pad/whatever  before loading.  Just my 2 cents to save you some headaches.



Perfect, thank you for that info! I'll just try that then. I don't want to be messing with nasty sticky grains and waste time/energy.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 2
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dinosaurs said:
newspaper ink is soy based and 100% safe.  if the choice of paper type weirds you out, use parchment paper. 

and yes, fan drying will work in a pinch for fruits the size and morphology of pans.  I have a jar of fan dried GHs here that are over a year old and still slap.



No shit it’s soy based, now rip off a piece of inked newspaper and place it on your tongue.  That taste will transfer with the ink.  Newspaper is bad for drying anything edible because of that ink taste transfer, not for health reasons.

Paper is also a poor choice because mushrooms will often glue themselves to the paper as they dry.  Thin cheap paper like newspaper is especially prone to this.  That is why parchment paper is better.

Sure, maybe your fan dried shrooms get you high, but they might have been and stayed great if you had properly dried and stored them.  I have old improperly dried cyans that are brown and bendy that will still get me high.  If they had been properly dried and jared from the start they would be mind blowing instead.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I’ll be starting out with four pint jars going into two 6qt containers. I bought a 5lb bag of coir. About how much coir would be good to prep?

Edited by Mub (05/22/25 04:43 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub] * 1
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If the coir is dry, you want about 80g/quart for spawn, about 20g for a top layer.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 6
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Fuckin aye.  Not to mention ~ 50% (at least) of the time,  improperly dried mushrooms (which obviously,  inherently contain (x) amount of bacteria will end up smelling like hobo funk in storage and wouldn't be something I'd even put in my mouth.  FFS, if you have to absolutely,  positively cut corners and just can't get a dehydrator,  the formula is air movement + heat.  Fan (air movement) + oven (heat) is really the only option that really satisfies both conditions.  I've been poor as dirt and still had an oven and money for a thrift store fan (or the oven have a fan setting - even 40yrold ovens...  The only exception being my propane RV shit stove now, which produces air movement by order of how it operates).

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 5
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Thrift stores like goodwill are stuffed with used dehydrators for 10-20 bucks.  You can get a brand new nesco FD-37 dehydrator for $40 online.  I get that in other countries they are more expensive due to tariffs, but it’s still worth it.

This fan drying myth has to go, it is not sufficient.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Hi shroomers, I’m checking into this thread again looking for feedback on the health of my 2 unmodified tubs.
These are day 9 post spawn to bulk at a 1:2 grain:coir ratio. I’ve primarily stuck to BOD’s teks and this thread so far for everything I’ve done.





The room temperature has been consistently 70-75 min-max every day, and it looks to me like the tubs are holding moisture pretty well, but I’m wondering 1. If my surface conditions are looking OK for where I’m at in the growth stage, 2. if I should be making any adjustments to the tubs with respect to misting/fae control, and 3. If I should be worried about contamination based on the way everything looks currently. This is my first grow so I’m not super confident on analyzing all this yet.  Any advice is much appreciated.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Spearhead1900] * 1
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@spearhead looks kinda sus to me but I’m a noob so wait til someone else responds. Looks like contamination. At day 9 I usually see a lot more growth than that. I assume you’re just growing cubes. I would guess it was dirty spawn and it stalled when it got broken up. Again just my 2c as a fairly inexperienced grower so take with a grain of salt

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande]
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Yeah I agree on the growth, usually 5-7 days it should be fully conlonized. Unless op did a casing layer, Yellow liquid could be metabolites or excudate so it could go either way to be honest. Best to keep an eye on the tub.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KittoMyco] * 3
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Doesn't even look like cube myc,  unfortunately.  Those are compost :tombstone:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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Looks early mycogone, don't ask me how I know that :lol:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel] * 1
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Is there a thread that helps with identifying contams on agar and explaining in detail what to look out for to tell apart healthy growth and suspicious activities?

I recently started doing agar and I have several plates that have some wispy af myc growing. In fact it looks so puffy across plates that it’s hard to differentiate from mold.
Also I have two plates that I streaked while aiming for maximum sterile technique, and can’t really tell if they‘re clean because there’s a „circle“ forming around the tiny freshly grown spot of myc.

Of course I could just post pics in the agar envy thread or here, but I‘d rather have a source that provides very detailed information and a lot of pics to try and educate myself.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fauchinger] * 1
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Fauchinger said:
Is there a thread that helps with identifying contams on agar and explaining in detail what to look out for to tell apart healthy growth and suspicious activities?

I recently started doing agar and I have several plates that have some wispy af myc growing. In fact it looks so puffy across plates that it’s hard to differentiate from mold.
Also I have two plates that I streaked while aiming for maximum sterile technique, and can’t really tell if they‘re clean because there’s a „circle“ forming around the tiny freshly grown spot of myc.

Of course I could just post pics in the agar envy thread or here, but I‘d rather have a source that provides very detailed information and a lot of pics to try and educate myself.



Here's one, I know there are other good ones as well.

Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants. A Visual Notebook


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Scemilope] * 1
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Scemilope said:
Fauchinger said:
Is there a thread that helps with identifying contams on agar and explaining in detail what to look out for to tell apart healthy growth and suspicious activities?

I recently started doing agar and I have several plates that have some wispy af myc growing. In fact it looks so puffy across plates that it’s hard to differentiate from mold.
Also I have two plates that I streaked while aiming for maximum sterile technique, and can’t really tell if they‘re clean because there’s a „circle“ forming around the tiny freshly grown spot of myc.

Of course I could just post pics in the agar envy thread or here, but I‘d rather have a source that provides very detailed information and a lot of pics to try and educate myself.



Here's one, I know there are other good ones as well.

Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants. A Visual Notebook



Exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!

Turns out, no signs of any healthy growth whatsoever on my plates. Didn’t expect it to be THIS bad, but oh well.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fauchinger] * 1
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ive grown and dried more shrooms than most of u have ever seen with two boxfans :crazy2:

heat expedites the process and might help kill any could be lingering bac but  can totally get 100% cracker dried fan dried mushrooms if u do it right

all u need to do is exhaust the humid air away and they dry 100% if any humid air is recycling ur not doing it right

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 3
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Post pics either here or in the agar thread just to be sure. Be a shame if you had something salvageable.


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