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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I think so, since they called them "grow bags" and continued to describe an all in one bag.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
Hi,

Cheers!

What do you think about buying big coco bricks and break those? Advised / not advised?

Ty for your time and help!



Its all I use. I love them. More is better. Once you really start getting into this hobby you're going to need it all the time. And the 650g  bricks only make like maybe three shoe boxes and just about enough for a mono.

So if you don't order this stuff in bulk and in the big bricks you're going to be ordering it constantly. And that's no fun.

Plus it stays fresh for a long time so you don't have to worry if you make more than you need just keep it closed in a bucket and you may have to rehydrate it "eventually"  lol maby a year later idk.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
I like these.

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+1 to this. Ive been through 2 of these and had no problems that I would blame on the coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Ahhh gotcha that makes since.  I was confused because in his OP he was actually posting about some grain bags he actually made himself.

  Hopfully they understood from what I was saying that I wasn't talking about aio. Definitely described your exact comment in the first post he talked about. 


But ya.    When I said bags just to be clear for everybody I was talking about unicorn bags and local grain bought and prepared on my own.  Not AIO's or vendor bought pre sterilized grain bags.



Only self made fahtlok style grow bags  are ok imo


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Edited by callmehippie (04/02/25 10:38 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Hi!

I just want to be sure I've understood correctly the monotub tek :

1. Agar

2. Colonize via a spawn (dry oats that you prepare)

3. Put spawn in bulk, which would be coconut coir.

Ratio for a 64quarts : 650g coir / ~800g dry oats.

and that's all? Now wait and see?

Another question, I've also red a good ratio for spawn / bulk is 1:1 to 1:4?
But for that, do you calculate with dry coir / dry oats, or once everything is watered / cooked?

Sorry I'm more of a visual / do it learner, guides are not always easy for me to grasp (esp with your freaking murican measurements, ffs I hate those but I still love you my muricans friends / teachers).

Cheers everyone


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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We definitely measure the prepared content, not the dry content when talking about spawning.

1- Spores to Agar, then transfer at least 2 by selecting the best growth (small sample) onto a new plate.

2- Colonize sterilized Grains with colonized agar

3- Let grain jars colonize fully

4- Use that spawn in bulk.

1:1 and 1:4 are ratios of grain spawn and substrate. If you have really clean perfect growth, it can handle a higher spawn ratio like 1:4 and output more shrooms efficiently. If you are iffy about a jar, a 1:1 is a safer bet to colonize quickly and hopefully get a flush before it might contaminate.

Most of the time when people say 1 quart, they mean 1 quart jar with some headspace, not literally a quart of grains.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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So yea if i'm correct :

One 650g coconut coir brick would weight around 6 to 9kg hydrated.
10 cups oats would weight around 4kg once hydrated.

So if I want a 1:1 ratio I bump to 15 to 20 cups depending on how much my brick weight after hydratation?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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(esp with your freaking murican measurements, ffs I hate those but I still love you my muricans friends / teachers).

Cheers everyone


       
:rofl2: this absolutely made my day!!
Lol muricans


And no worries I'm the same way.  A visual learner.  And Im Very dyslexic among other learning disabilities.

There can be information overload when your first starting out here. 

Your on the right track and asking the right questions. Pick  one Tek and follow it to a T. Don't deviate or try to change anything.   


And post pics of your projects that you need help with.


And after you're done with this mono get some wide mouth half pint jars and do PF tek. 

It'll be the quickest and easiest way you get mushrooms as a noob.

I wish I had just listened and started with PF instead of wasting so much time money and materials.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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I'm def starting with pf tek, but i'm asking questions by curiosity for the future ^^

cheers :smile: <3


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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For sure.  I dig it.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Yes sir.

Mr Piggy said:
I think so, since they called them "grow bags" and continued to describe an all in one bag.


Yes. I was referring to grow bags in particular. The things that you inoculate that has the grain inside and you put the substrate over it and have to break apart the grains and not mix the substrate with it and hope your grains aren’t contaminated bags.

Will look into unicorn bags just so I know the difference.

But I do intend to do agar for the next grows. I have been, well lazy, and trying to get into things as step by step as possible.

A lot of the toys y’all buy I just can’t get into. BUT. I have a large large bathroom that works incredibly well as a SAB once I clean and Lysol and let it all sit. I have managed to only lose one batch of jars that I in all honesty figured I would cause I rushed the sterilization process and forgot I had class that night so they sat in the steam pot for WAY WAY to long and when I inoculated it I kinda prepared myself for the worst and when I did the BnS I saw wet clumps in the center of all those jars and knew where the mistake was.

Aside from that, I have only lost 2 other jars in separate cultures so I feel like my bathroom works very well. Especially if I agar. 

I have lost two grows and that’s cause I kept playing with the cardinal sin of leave it the fuck alone. Both were tidal waves. One kept opening and fuckin with. The other was a monotub and I over hydrated the coir. So lessons learned.

I have two tubs of B+ and one of TW going now and they are doing fabulously on day 3 so pastywhytes microtape is working well and how I probably will roll from now on.

Will gather swabs and use the ziplock and my vacuum seal I saw someone on here do before and agar them once my college kids leave after summer


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
For sure.  I dig it.




Hey, i love your avatar is GORGEOUS! :heart::heart:

ps,
i'd change mine for a groovy april froggy but still mourning the passing of my 19 year old best friend (he's on my avatar), he died last year on December 25th :sad:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: astra] * 1
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:hug:

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:heart::heart::hug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: astra]
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Is this contamination or something else? Fruiting conditions are pretty poor and coir was too wet. It has been 2 years since last grow and I usually just throw something together to get started after a longer pause. I don't mind losing a tub or two in the process. After a while I get my workflow in order.

This batch was made from syringe to grain. And don't worry I have some plates coming up and next batch is going to go through agar.






Terrible sorry to show you this mess.:rolleyes: Normally I wouldn't care and just ditch the batch but I'm interested in what's going on here. Also I need glasses. I promise the surface didn't look that wet before I took the pictures and zoomed in.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
So yea if i'm correct :

One 650g coconut coir brick would weight around 6 to 9kg hydrated.
10 cups oats would weight around 4kg once hydrated.

So if I want a 1:1 ratio I bump to 15 to 20 cups depending on how much my brick weight after hydratation?

Cheers


So here's the confusion(or the addition of more). We weigh the dry coir to get the amount of water we add correct. Everything after that is done by volume. 1:1 or 1:4 by volume not weight.

Also keep in mind what we call a mycoquart or mycopint. A mycoquart or mycopint is the hydrated grain in jar with a good headspace. Usually 2/3 to 3/4 full.

Hope this makes more sense to you now.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MightBeARealPerson]
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Just looks like some blobbing could be due to bacteria or could be just genetic


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MightBeARealPerson]
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you mean if those blobs are contamination?


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MightBeARealPerson said:
Is this contamination or something else? Fruiting conditions are pretty poor and coir was too wet. It has been 2 years since last grow and I usually just throw something together to get started after a longer pause. I don't mind losing a tub or two in the process. After a while I get my workflow in order.

This batch was made from syringe to grain. And don't worry I have some plates coming up and next batch is going to go through agar.






Terrible sorry to show you this mess.:rolleyes: Normally I wouldn't care and just ditch the batch but I'm interested in what's going on here. Also I need glasses. I promise the surface didn't look that wet before I took the pictures and zoomed in.


This is the manifestation of heavy bacterial activity as in paranormal activity, you don't see them but you know they're there.. the blobs are caused by mutation. Bacteria causes mutations and although not aesthetically pleasing, they're still mush you know (edible). Unless you see patches of nasty ass mold or gooey metabolites then  i wouldn't worry too much. Your sterile technique just needs a little polishing and you're good to go, my man :heart:


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