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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] * 3
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Her profile says she's banned, I assume it was a self-ban.

And that if she wanted to make her reasons for it public she would have.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
    #29137757 -

I’m just saying lol.
Last time I was gonna take a break people thought I meant self harm…


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Nope, 12 points, never expires, permaban.
Apparently there is a page where you can see your points. At 12 you get banned. Like that jerk who went head over heels on your innocent remark, Tree.
I just checked it. There is a page too that's like a who's who in Banworld. Astra is on there.

I don't really get it. Didn't see Astra do weird or nasty stuff, but who am I, on the boards for three months.
The guy who played Nyx is still on, posting bogus that starts like 'If you don't know what valence is...' Yeah dickface, we all never went to highschool. (Does that give me points, id-ing a dick?)
Just saying. Apparently you can do a lot of crap without garnering points. Really curious what Astra did.


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Where is this page?


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I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
    #29137851 -

This is my second forum experience and I am a one-finger-typer digibete...
But I searched on 'currently banned users' and '12 point ban system' and got the above info.
I don't get how people change the name of hyperlinks, link at all, import gifs etc etc

Edit: I can't even repeat my search results :lol:
Did in fact read what I stated above


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

Edited by Churpee Choozle (02/25/25 01:10 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Where is this page?


Ban List


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Thanks!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
    #29137934 -

Folks can ask the moderators and administrators to permanently ban them.

As we don't have account deletion on this website, that's often what happens when folks want to burn their account for one reason or another.

Anyway, here are some cyan primordia enjoying the casings microclimate.  And astra, if you are lurking, we'll miss you sister and I hope that you are well :heart::hug::heart:



Edit:  And on a personal note, thanks for all your love and support sister.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (02/25/25 11:37 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 8
    #29138613 -

:raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2:
:raver2:Ad Astra, Ad Infinitum:heart::raver2:
:raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2::raver2:

Maybe sometime down the line we'll catch up again......


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🍄PANAEOLUS IN MONOTUBS🍄
🍄OFFICIAL SEMILANCEATA THREAD🍄



⭐Baba's Write Ups and Link Collection⭐

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 14
    #29138887 -

Hey enthusiasts :trippinbawelz:

Finally found wild pan cyans in phillipines cebu island mountains :awedance::wooyeah:

Also found more purple pink, blue bruising gyms on same logs as last may.






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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 8
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Beautiful!

I love seeing more pans coming out of that part of the world!

Hey, I just wanted to let everyone know that I heard from astra this morning and that she's okay.  I won't go into the details, that's her business so.

And...

Check this out y'all.  They discovered a new species of pans in China not too long ago.  Close relative of bispo according to the sequencing.

Panaeolus Axfordii.  It looks psychoactive, bruises blue, closely related to other potent species.  So, if any folks in that part of the world want to keep their eyes out for it, y'all know I love my bispo and her sisters :smile:  And would love to get a chance to work with these.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Panaeolus-axfordii-sp-nov-a-b-Basidiocarps-in-their-natural-habitat-c-Basidiospores_fig1_339459453



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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (02/26/25 07:10 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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so it looks like pan cyanescens var bisporus is different than pan cyanescens and pan bisporus?

what do we know about Panaeolus cyanescens var bisporus?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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It's likely a separate species from both bisporus and cyans looking at the sequencing.

DNA testing was done in Italy.  But I wasn't able to find any information (yet) on the original collection.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nucleotide/HM035084.1?report=genbank&log$=nuclalign&blast_rank=2&RID=VYKGG832016

I'm just learning about genetics, though.  So, I'm sure other folks might have a better idea.  But I know the naming and identification of Panaeolus has been a bit of a mess, and that there are folks trying to clean up the taxonomy now that sequencing is more available and more accessible.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
    #29139324 -

Cultivating panaeolus is a new thing to me so sorry for my ignorance and if the questions has been answered before, I couldn't find anything searching.

I presume contamination issues is a lot more common when manure or other nutrient substrate is involved. My plan is to do 4 trays(1,5qt) in a dreamer tub and 4 ez dial mini mono's(5qt). Ratio will be 1:4+1 as usual and amount of spawn will be 8,5fl oz.

For substrate I'm going with 80/20 coir/cow manure compost(it's what I can get) and verm if I overshot my field capacity. I'm thinking I'll go directly to fruiting conditions when spawning to substrate and apply casing(60/40 cactus soil/verm) at 95-100% colonization.

First question, does this sound okay for Bisporus? Or am I doomed to fail?

Second question, I was thinking about using just coir for my pseudo casing at spawn, my thought was that since coir is inert it will up my chances against contamination during colonization, but if nutrients from the sub just seeps in to the pseudo casing within hours I guess there's no point, has anybody tried this?


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 6
    #29139347 -

Bisporus is the most difficult pan for most folks.  And I see several pitfalls in your approach that will likely give you a headache.  I think your tubs will work well though so you're solid on that end :smile: They like less fae than other pans and do well in totes.

I will link you some teks and grow logs.  But, I would not put it into fruiting at spawn.  I would let it colonize.  You can case at spawn if you want.  You want it to colonize the casing.  As Adas says in one of his threads, that's a feature, not a bug.  I get better pinsets leaving the verm out.  But ymmv.

Pan Cakes - Least headaches, you could probably spawn these to coir and case if you want to go to bulk

Nutrient infused popcorn grow - A lot of helpful info and I grow on compost as a control so you can see the whole process.  The actual infused popcorn worked well but popcorn is expensive.

AIO jars - You don't have to follow this tek exactly.  But you can put everything in a jar and sterilize it.  Or just do your manure and grains in a jar and sterilize them together.  Then inoculate it with a wedge.  Bispo likes to stall out on most grains, so this is both a workaround and means you don't have to pasteurize.  AIO bags also work of course.  I just like jars as they're reusable and run faster from wedge (did I mention bispo likes to stall in LC too?)

If you were planning to do an LC, several folks suggested doing them on SSLC.  But I never got around to testing.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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:takingnotes: Thanks.

Pan cakes is the only thread I haven't read, but looking at it, I don't want to go that route as it would mean getting a lot of new things, one thing is money, but then there is space and for me, sourcing it would be a PITA. LC is not in my arsenal so that is not a problem, but good to know down the road.

So that leaves me with nutrient infused popcorn and AIO jars. Do you know why Bisporus stalls on most grains? Is popcorn the only grain you can infuse with fertilizer to get around it?


The AIO jars seems like a good tek, but I would worry about substrate getting stuck in places the myc won't reach and clogging my lid sfd's, or is that just not an issue? Could I just not shake it until 100% colonized?

If I get to spawning to ez dial, would micropore tape on all holes until colonization is done suffice?

I'm already getting a headache:lol:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Yeah, I think covering the holes until the casing is colonized is fine.

I'm not really sure why it doesn't colonize grains well.  Possibly, they struggle to produce the enzymes to penetrate grain hulls easily.

It does better on brown rice flour.  One thing Baba does is mix brf and verm and spoon it onto the top of his grains, then allows the mycelium to colonize that and shake it up to get it to have enough vigor to run through the grains well.  So that's another option for you.

They'll run on popcorn with or without liquid nutrients.  Attempting to infuse millet and rye with compost tea and even adding small amounts of compost to the jars wasn't enough to get them to eat the millet or rye though for me.  I mean, they eventually did.  But it took three months for the jars to colonize, and I had to shake them every week due to stalls.

I suspect grass seed would work well with them, but that's only based on how it went after it in an AIO jar.  As it seems like it would clump easily, so I haven't run it by itself.

The AIO jars do make a bit of a mess of the SFDs.  And occasionally I have to replace one.  But I generally prep the substrate a bit on the dry side so it doesn't clump.  And this also cuts down on that issue with the SFDs.

I'd also suggest Baba's liquid manure tek for nitrogen.  As that way, you don't have to invest in liquid fertilizer if you already have manure.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 13
    #29139627 -

Thanks yall for your nice comments on my finds in phillipines :mushroom2::heart:
I've been going there nearly 3yrs for month long stays every few months and it wasn't easy to locate this awesome cyan spot. Now I know how to get there plus it's a "public" spot but wouldn't appear public as i see it tucked back on mountains surrounded by small villages and houses. Ppl walked right by us as we took pics and picked samples just saying "gabii" or ( evening ) :cool:
Its neat ppl here mind their own business and most don't know what they pass by in this mountain grass field. More pics now. 📸 I'm sorry to ramble I'm really still excited to see these and now have "spot" here i cud pick/ walk all day. We arrived at nightfall only 30min light but didn't need more time we found enuf for multiple doses so fast. Only two found were weird looking one like cinctulus and one like pan paps.
BTW, fresh these were extremely clean and potent just like 7fresh start you feeling really really gud. I ate another handful and it was so so smooth and enjoyable.










In collection we noticed x3 phenos , one type had near black instant bruising and skinny thin stipe, other were small but meaty and very white with vivid sky blue bruising,  and 3rd were beastly huge ones 💙 😀

Thank you for watching and letting me share and ramble.
Ill send out x3 types for dna sequencing asap and I will make a i.nat observation too.
:mushroom2::heart:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
They'll run on popcorn with or without liquid nutrients.  Attempting to infuse millet and rye with compost tea and even adding small amounts of compost to the jars wasn't enough to get them to eat the millet or rye though for me.  I mean, they eventually did.  But it took three months for the jars to colonize, and I had to shake them every week due to stalls.



It seems strange that corn would be that much different than rye grain, but i've just run out of rye, and I have extra corn in the pantry that i never got around to nixtamalizing and is too old for me to want to eat now.  I've experimented with using the corn for woodlovers and it worked fine, but it had an increased contamination rate, so i stopped using it for that, but I think I could do better cooking/sterilizing the next time around.  I'd love to give it a whirl with bisporus.

i have heirloom popcorn and some heirloom flour corn.  It seems like flint corn would be harder for bisporus with your above logic, treefrog...

Wikipedia's  Flint corn article says "Because each kernel has a hard outer layer to protect the soft endosperm, it is likened to being hard as flint, hence the name."

popcorn wouldn't be much different than flour corn for bisporus, would it?

I think i've used the flour corn before, but i may be wrong, this may be popping corn...





I assume you're just mentioning popping corn because that's what's easily available for purchase?

In jingus' grow where coffee and gypsum was added to rye grains and the bisporus colonized the grain in 1 month

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
    #29139707 -

Supa had good success with feed corn too.  So I assume other corns can work.

Popcorn holds it's shape well even when the kernels burst a little, and the hull on the ones I used was pretty thin.

There maybe something to nitrogen bioavailability in different grains too.  And needing nitrogen to digest large amounts of sugars like in grains.  Maybe related to them running better on low nutrient agar.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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