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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies] * 4
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Chickpeas have a lot less carbs.  It's similar to how we run pans on low nutrients plates to encourage more aggressive colonization.

Pan. Bisporus is a leaf litter fungi.  Meaning they're not generally found growing out of fresh manure.  But rather prefer a well composted substrate and a proper casing, similar to agaricus bisporus.  And both these species of leaf litter fungi are often found in meadows or lawns.  So they like tall grass and associated plant matter.  As well as a damp ground cover (casing, unless you want to grow grass which also works).

I've tried leaf compost, garden compost, black kow, and horse manure.  Cut with either 50/50 coir or 1:1:1 coir, hemp herd, compost.  Black kow and the two composts did best.  Black kow is easiest to work with as it's the least clay like.  Hemp herd is of benefit but is an extra step and expensive here.

Anyway, I'd suggest reading up on casing application if you don't plan to top dress and add grass seed.  You can still use jiffy mix if that's your preference, but the casing pictures at the end of this pictorial would still probably be helpful.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 7
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Just wanted to share a pic of cyans (bbar) on leaves vs mostly straw with compost vs leaves/compost (bottom).....well, straw obviously, but I think the leaves will still fruit on their own. They've been spawned a week already, I'm just goin to case them tomorrow regardless.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 4
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And in the casings, the peat casing pinning before the leaf casing.  These are still cyans though and I'll still try this with bisporus the next time around.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 1
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stagger said:
Just wanted to share a pic of cyans (bbar) on leaves vs mostly straw with compost vs leaves/compost (bottom).....well, straw obviously, but I think the leaves will still fruit on their own. They've been spawned a week already, I'm just goin to case them tomorrow regardless.






Looking at your pictures gave me flashbacks of Amish country baking traditions... yummm :heart::heart:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 6
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Woke up to this little fellow from my wild pan culture.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Purrmes] * 8
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Burringbar fruited at spawn / uncased is pinning. We had a week of really muggy weather and I had to completely open up all holes for the surface to dry out, quite different weather compared to the other years. Now that the surface is finally starting to dry up a bit pins are coming in. I think I will mist for the first time tonight. 

Photos are of the tub spawned 7 days ago. The other one is a bit slower.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 9
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Lil update on this 4 valve air pump.  I’m a fan.  Just used the foam it came with in the box and a hand towel and that got rid of most vibration and its whisper quiet.  I can only hear the bubbles it makes.  It’s bigger than I thought it was going to be but that’s not a problem

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
Lil update on this 4 valve air pump.  I’m a fan.  Just used the foam it came with in the box and a hand towel and that got rid of most vibration and its whisper quiet.  I can only hear the bubbles it makes.  It’s bigger than I thought it was going to be but that’s not a problem






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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 3.A.M] * 4
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3.A.M said:
999999999 said:
Can I derail this pumped conversation to shit? :lol:
QQ:From what I understood, fresh Hpoo is ill-advised on account of high ammonia content tho the high nitrogen seems welcomed; is there any way of neutralising ammonia that doesn't involve weeks?



Pretty sure baba uses fresh manure for his tea tek but I can’t remember the exact process for fresh, I’m pretty sure if you briefly soak in water a couple times you could potentially rinse most of the nasties out, I haven’t tried though, I just dumped mine in the sun for a couple days after my latest fresh hpoo fuck ups.





I use non leached manure but it's not fresh. I let it sit in a bucket with cloth attached over the top or a bag that can breath and let it sit til the ammonia smell is gone. Texture wise it's a bit muddier than leached but that can usually get adjusted when mixing it with coir and verm (optional). I wished I could get straw pellets or something similar, maybe I'll try to use fermented pine sawdust as I'd like to get away from coir, verm and also peat which is why I am experimenting with uncased subs.

Hope to get more back into it next year and will make new tub designs get better results when fruiting pans at spawn without casing. Aiming to allow for more evenly distributed FAE than the oldschool monos I am using at the moment.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
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Baba Yaga said:
I use non leached manure but it's not fresh. I let it sit in a bucket with cloth attached over the top or a bag that can breath and let it sit til the ammonia smell is gone. Texture wise it's a bit muddier than leached but that can usually get adjusted when mixing it with coir and verm (optional). I wished I could get straw pellets or something similar, maybe I'll try to use fermented pine sawdust as I'd like to get away from coir, verm and also peat which is why I am experimenting with uncased subs.

Hope to get more back into it next year and will make new tub designs get better results when fruiting pans at spawn without casing. Aiming to allow for more evenly distributed FAE than the oldschool monos I am using at the moment.



I for sure will be here for that.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Can anyone hook me up with the ideal tek for these air tubs, for Bisporus Washington?

Is it just a matter of higher humidity?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
Can anyone hook me up with the ideal tek for these air tubs, for Bisporus Washington?

Is it just a matter of higher humidity?



Two good options.

Dreamer Tub
JCM's watertub

I did a singel dreamer tub, but instead of humidity controller I bought a cloudforge T3 Gen 2, and that has it's one controller.






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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
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In the next week or so I’ll be trialing out my first run of canary seed next to rye. This canary seed is like a miniature wheat with husk. I’ve got a few species on canary and rye right now inoculated from agar wedge. The canary seed seems to be colonizing slightly faster. Not sure if that is due to smaller grain size being closer together or nutritional content vigor. We will see in some side by side trays in the Martha how it all shakes out.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies] * 4
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Huskies said:
Can anyone hook me up with the ideal tek for these air tubs, for Bisporus Washington?

Is it just a matter of higher humidity?



Bisporus does well with higher humidity and lower fae than cyans.  Especially during pin formation.  And during fruiting they like the caps dripping wet.

Some of the densest canopies I have seen came from kirkeng's monotub grows.  And stagger did a nice grow recently in a garbage bag I believe.

Anyway, if you already have a water tub setup. You can dial down the air on it.  Run them in deeper trays to accommodate more co2 and rH (if fruiting alongside cyans).  Or plant grass on them.  I've used all three of those in my tent.  And I've also just fruited them like cyans.  Which they do fine with too, but you really need to dial in your casing to allow for the right microclimate for pins.  As they're much less forgiving about surface microclimate than cyans.


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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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deeper tray and deeper sub too? do they like that casing pretty wet?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mackload] * 5
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Doesn't seem to matter how moist the surface is, wet or dry it's pinning regardless.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mackload] * 8
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Mackload said:
deeper tray and deeper sub too? do they like that casing pretty wet?



Nah, I still get the most mileage out of one to two inch substrates.

And I run my casing damp but not saturated.  A lot darker than what baba just posted. But no standing water as you still want evaporation as well as some air exchange (you don't want to drown them).

My bispo casings typically look like this.



And this is mystery sa, but I do both similarly as far as keeping the caps dripping (within reason, it's not going to kill anything if you were gone for a day and can't mist them. But they do both seem to produce more spores and develop larger caps if I do that.  And you don't want to overspray and saturate the casing either).



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I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:




These are absolutely stunning!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 1
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Nice mine finally took off thanks to your fae idea hopefully full canopy on next tub


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Blufuut180]
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Which is a better clone target for pans: fast ones that fruit a few days before the rest, or slower ones that all fruit at the same time a bit later?

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