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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
CocaineBuffet said:
How long ago did you "mist the fk out of it"? It seems like it has too much FAE going on because there is a lack of condensation


5 hours. And I agree. Why no condensation?


Probably too much FAE. Might want to use a less or non porous tape for half the holes and see if it retains proper humidity so you dont have to mist until harvest

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet] * 1
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when did you spawn this? mine never condensate until like a day in.  seems like a litfa moment


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
well those are hella expensive.  nah just leave the masking tape on.  let surface conditions occur.  pull the tape and *voila*


Yeah, SFD are not cheap, but I am in this for learning and doing it right, but then, if it is not doing anything, why bother? I just want do do this right. :confused:


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Edited by Kloakk (01/17/25 09:44 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
when did you spawn this? mine never condensate until like a day in.  seems like a litfa moment


It's like 5 hours in.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
wait till 100.01% colonized then shake.


Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that, my other jars that I shook were a few days ahead and they seem to be recovering fine so fingers crossed.

Question regarding:

LewDoja said:
Optimal 70-78° for cubes


Is 80°F too hot for cubes on agar? The bottom of my incubator gets to ~82° but higher up the temps drop pretty quickly. I've noticed that the ones on the bottom tend to grow faster than the 2nd or 3rd layer plates.

Also is it okay to incubate grain jars at 70-75° in a heated tub in tub setup? I think this causes a tiny bit of condensation when they're near done colonizing.

The external temps swing from ~60-68° so I've just been keeping things warmer to nudge them along.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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the freezer tape is probably just as porous.  i think its fine.

if its only been 5 hours i think youre totally golden. 

relax a bit my friend. leave it be for a few days.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: QuantumZ00]
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QuantumZ00 said:
bluespirit13 said:
One early pin, or very poor pin set? 🤔





He's the nerd who shows up to every party uninvited and four hours early. Just politely shuffle him off this mortal coil and wait til the real guests arrive. That dude probably has Trichoderma's phone number, I mean just look at the dork.


Well :/ you were right about something. Was looking at the sides of the shoebox today and started to notice some green :/ so it looks like there’s a reason only one mushroom showed up. RIP


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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CocaineBuffet said:
Kloakk said:
CocaineBuffet said:
How long ago did you "mist the fk out of it"? It seems like it has too much FAE going on because there is a lack of condensation


5 hours. And I agree. Why no condensation?


Probably too much FAE. Might want to use a less or non porous tape for half the holes and see if it retains proper humidity so you dont have to mist until harvest


Ait, did some regular packing tape.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
the freezer tape is probably just as porous.  i think its fine.

if its only been 5 hours i think youre totally golden. 

relax a bit my friend. leave it be for a few days.


My bad, I'm anxious, swapped the freezer tape for regular tape....I'll leave it on to tomorrow and then change again... Thanks again to all of you. Just noobing my noob:liottalol:


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Edited by Kloakk (01/17/25 10:05 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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youre good.  i think recognizing correct surface conditions is going to be  more critical than what kind of tape you use at this point.

also, do not snap that lid tight.  you need SOME air exchange.  maybe even open up a few hole.

creating a high humidity high co2 environment is a certain recipe for bacteria to run rampant or worse, trich. 

fahts taught me youre better off with lots of fae from the get go for this reason.  mist if you need to, but never choke it off.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd] * 2
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sage_bd said:
LewDoja said:
wait till 100.01% colonized then shake.


Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that, my other jars that I shook were a few days ahead and they seem to be recovering fine so fingers crossed.

Question regarding:

LewDoja said:
Optimal 70-78° for cubes


Is 80°F too hot for cubes on agar? The bottom of my incubator gets to ~82° but higher up the temps drop pretty quickly. I've noticed that the ones on the bottom tend to grow faster than the 2nd or 3rd layer plates.

Also is it okay to incubate grain jars at 70-75° in a heated tub in tub setup? I think this causes a tiny bit of condensation when they're near done colonizing.

The external temps swing from ~60-68° so I've just been keeping things warmer to nudge them along.



Do you get a bunch of water pooling in the agar plate?

80 is fine for vegetative growth but remember the inside of jars will be warmer than ambient temp.

Also the higher the temp the increased potential for any unwanted organisms gaining a foothold.


Edited by LewDoja (01/17/25 10:50 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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How much do spores dropping really affect subsequent flushes?

If you let your flush fully mature and drops  all over your sub is that really supposed to be the signal to not grow anymore? Or is that only in the wild ?

Does it have any type of negative effect on the following flushes?

I know I've read that but I'm wondering how much of a affect actually has?

Many of my Pf cakes are covered in stores but they still produce fine. And definitely had some shoe boxes have quite a bit of spores on the sub and it still flushed perfectly fine many times after..


So what is the actual deal with this? is it really that important to harvest before they start dropping spores just for that reason alone?


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Edited by callmehippie (01/18/25 01:18 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Doesn’t matter. You can spray off the top surface. The spores don’t affect taste.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
How much do spores dropping really affect subsequent flushes?

If you let your flush fully mature and drops  all over your sub is that really supposed to be the signal to not grow anymore? Or is that only in the wild ?

Does it have any type of negative effect on the following flushes?

I know I've read that but I'm wondering how much of a affect actually has?

Many of my PS cakes are covered in stores but they still produce fine. And definitely had some shoe boxes have quite a bit of spores on the sub and it still flushed perfectly fine many times after..


So what is the actual deal with this? is it really that important to harvest before they start dropping spores just for that reason alone?


Where did you hear that?

But it only matters for bag appeal.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Literally no effect


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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If that even. Spores dropping makes things look like mottled coffee. It’s beautiful if anything.
Then, if you decide to spray off the top, you can pour all of that spore water into a bowl, dump it onto some manure in a cow field, bing bang boom.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd] * 2
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sage_bd said:
Is 80°F too hot for cubes on agar? The bottom of my incubator gets to ~82°.


I'd recommend 70 F at all stages for people starting out. I still do it at that, except in the summer when it can get higher.

If you grow at 80 or 82 your increasing your chances of contam out competing and enmeshing with your mycelium on plate.
Someone will probably disagree with me on this but I stand by it. Especially if you're new.

Some people grow at all stages at 80 here but they've been growing for years. 

I'd recommend being patient and not trying to speed things up.

Whatever you do heat the room (or closet), don't put a pad under the shroom box. That can lead to a lot of your shrooms growing on the bottom.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
callmehippie said:
How much do spores dropping really affect subsequent flushes?

If you let your flush fully mature and drops  all over your sub is that really supposed to be the signal to not grow anymore? Or is that only in the wild ?

Does it have any type of negative effect on the following flushes?

I know I've read that but I'm wondering how much of a affect actually has?

Many of my PS cakes are covered in stores but they still produce fine. And definitely had some shoe boxes have quite a bit of spores on the sub and it still flushed perfectly fine many times after..


So what is the actual deal with this? is it really that important to harvest before they start dropping spores just for that reason alone?


Where did you hear that?

But it only matters for bag appeal.



Honestly not sure where I read it I think it was somewhere on here.I read that once they drop their spores it's supposed to be a signal to stop producing When the spores cover the subsurface. I'll try and find it.

That's all I was  curious about I've had a feeling it was nonsense. Because like I said I've had tons of spores drop all over my subsurfaces and it never really changed anything about the grow from that point on.

I think I also heard a member mention something about it earlier. Saying he was really anal about plucking them right before the viel breaks so the spores don't drop and negatively affect the following flushes.

Everybody seems to say they do taste like shit though I wasn't aware of that either.

And as far as bag appeal I understand that. That's not really important to me either. If there good there good, who cares what they look like. Am I right?


And I actually like the way they look when spores have dropped not when their like super black but when they've got some color I think they look pretty cool.


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Edited by callmehippie (01/18/25 01:32 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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Maby i misinterpreted.  Here  RR says this



Here's the link to the thread.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19406513/fpart/all


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Welp

Spores don’t taste,

Something something understanding evolves

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