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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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What is a potent cube strain that is good to grow? I was thinking of growing APE but I read from several people that's more of a novelty strain.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 3
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If you want potent mushrooms with the same parameters as cubes.... Semperviva.


Other wise PE lineages

But if you eat enough "regz" you'll Tripp just as hard.  Not like they're in short supply.

Edited by LewDoja (12/23/24 10:08 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 4
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those people are noobs.

ape is awesome. treat em like normal cubes and they do fine


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
If you want potent mushrooms with the same parameters as cubes.... Semperviva.


Other wise PE lineages

But if you eat enough "regz" you'll Tripp just as hard.  Not like they're in short supply.



Never heard of Semperviva, I had to look it up. It got me really interested. I only have experience growing cubes though.

Yea all I have grown is "regs", Jack Frost being the strongest strain I have. I wanna try growing something else since I finally found where I can get some spores of other strains out here.

Edit: I just found out that Jack Frost comes from PE lineage according to what I read lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
those people are noobs.

ape is awesome. treat em like normal cubes and they do fine




APE it is then :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
SupaThaRipper said:
Mr Piggy said:
SupaThaRipper said:
Have you tried not venting and observed a difference?


Yes.  Once I learned proper venting I stopped having grain problems.


I mean there's a million variables that could come into play. I'm not trying to convince people to not vent, but I get by fine without it.

Any venters care to tell him what he's doing wrong on that note? Besides setting his range to the highest setting.


“Venters”. Come on man.. it’s 2024.  You can’t say that.  We go by “those who vent”


The new abridged socially correct terms are Ventilated and Unventilated...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 5
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Jrey16 said:
Never heard of Semperviva, I had to look it up. It got me really interested. I only have experience growing cubes though.



Semperviva grows aren't much different than cube grows.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jebi] * 2
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Jebi said:
The new abridged socially correct terms are Ventilated and Unventilated...


Jeez, you sound like such a venter right now!  :oldman2: :grin:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent as a result of blood pressure medicine? I know SSRIs can have that effect, but I couldn't find anything about BP meds.

My last batch of shrooms bruised blue when picked, were dried in a dehydrator for 24 hours and crushed into powder with the slightest touch. I made 5g into tea, and felt next to nothing. I was sober enough that I could've driven had I needed to.

It's been a couple months since my last attempted trip, so I don't think it's tolerance.

I'm leaning towards genetics being the culprit. I made gummies out of my previous batch of shrooms and felt nothing as well. They both came from agar plates made from the same non-vendor syringe. The only hesitation on blaming genetics is because I've read that unless you have a monoculture, even LCs can give different genetic expressions. It seems unlikely that two different batches grown from different agar plates would end up with shit genetics, thus I'm wondering if the problem could also be me.

How often do more experienced growers end up with shrooms that are duds?

Any insight into this is welcome


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 2
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The Tao said:
Jrey16 said:
Never heard of Semperviva, I had to look it up. It got me really interested. I only have experience growing cubes though.



Semperviva grows aren't much different than cube grows.



Is that regular PF or a grain cake?

Deets please!


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"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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CaptainPuffy said:
Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent as a result of blood pressure medicine? I know SSRIs can have that effect, but I couldn't find anything about BP meds.

My last batch of shrooms bruised blue when picked, were dried in a dehydrator for 24 hours and crushed into powder with the slightest touch. I made 5g into tea, and felt next to nothing. I was sober enough that I could've driven had I needed to.

It's been a couple months since my last attempted trip, so I don't think it's tolerance.

I'm leaning towards genetics being the culprit. I made gummies out of my previous batch of shrooms and felt nothing as well. They both came from agar plates made from the same non-vendor syringe. The only hesitation on blaming genetics is because I've read that unless you have a monoculture, even LCs can give different genetic expressions. It seems unlikely that two different batches grown from different agar plates would end up with shit genetics, thus I'm wondering if the problem could also be me.

How often do more experienced growers end up with shrooms that are duds?

Any insight into this is welcome



Beta blockers should not by any means interact with the serotonin receptors, but it's hard to tell without knowing exactly which meds you are on.
Do you have anyone in your life who could try these shrooms of yours?

I have never mixed psychedelics and beta blockers before, but I have used them.
The beta blockers calm me down and inhibits the fight or flight response.
Psilocin do not act on those receptors.

I'd think the opposite would happen, where beta blockers could slow down your metabolism, dragging out the experience and potentially help you stay calm.

:2cents:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle]
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I've got some BB, might fuck around and see what happens.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle]
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MycCycle said:
CaptainPuffy said:
Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent as a result of blood pressure medicine? I know SSRIs can have that effect, but I couldn't find anything about BP meds.

My last batch of shrooms bruised blue when picked, were dried in a dehydrator for 24 hours and crushed into powder with the slightest touch. I made 5g into tea, and felt next to nothing. I was sober enough that I could've driven had I needed to.

It's been a couple months since my last attempted trip, so I don't think it's tolerance.

I'm leaning towards genetics being the culprit. I made gummies out of my previous batch of shrooms and felt nothing as well. They both came from agar plates made from the same non-vendor syringe. The only hesitation on blaming genetics is because I've read that unless you have a monoculture, even LCs can give different genetic expressions. It seems unlikely that two different batches grown from different agar plates would end up with shit genetics, thus I'm wondering if the problem could also be me.

How often do more experienced growers end up with shrooms that are duds?

Any insight into this is welcome



Beta blockers should not by any means interact with the serotonin receptors, but it's hard to tell without knowing exactly which meds you are on.
Do you have anyone in your life who could try these shrooms of yours?

I have never mixed psychedelics and beta blockers before, but I have used them.
The beta blockers calm me down and inhibits the fight or flight response.
Psilocin do not act on those receptors.

I'd think the opposite would happen, where beta blockers could slow down your metabolism, dragging out the experience and potentially help you stay calm.

:2cents:


Thanks for responding.

I take Peridiperol (sp?). It's not a BB, it's an ACE.

I don't know enough about them to say the difference.

I'm going to give some to my MIL, but she's on way more medicine than anyone I know, so it's not the best test case.

Edit: Google seems to think that ACEs can lower serotonin levels and effect the way things are absorbed through the stomach. Seems like a likely culprit.

Do people on SSRIs just take way more to break through that barrier?


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Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (12/23/24 12:25 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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CaptainPuffy said:
Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent as a result of blood pressure medicine? I know SSRIs can have that effect, but I couldn't find anything about BP meds.

My last batch of shrooms bruised blue when picked, were dried in a dehydrator for 24 hours and crushed into powder with the slightest touch. I made 5g into tea, and felt next to nothing. I was sober enough that I could've driven had I needed to.

It's been a couple months since my last attempted trip, so I don't think it's tolerance.

I'm leaning towards genetics being the culprit. I made gummies out of my previous batch of shrooms and felt nothing as well. They both came from agar plates made from the same non-vendor syringe. The only hesitation on blaming genetics is because I've read that unless you have a monoculture, even LCs can give different genetic expressions. It seems unlikely that two different batches grown from different agar plates would end up with shit genetics, thus I'm wondering if the problem could also be me.

How often do more experienced growers end up with shrooms that are duds?

Any insight into this is welcome


The common denominator sounds like the tea. Maybe not enough decoctions? I'd try them dry and also fresh before I declare them bunk.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 2
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I am hesitant for people to experiment with blood pressure medication’s while using a vasoconstrictive.
:twocents:
Bigwurm was using something to control blood pressure and had a very scary episode. So I would advise caution when using blood pressure medications and mushrooms.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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CaptainPuffy said:
MycCycle said:
CaptainPuffy said:
Has anyone experienced issues with mushrooms not being potent as a result of blood pressure medicine? I know SSRIs can have that effect, but I couldn't find anything about BP meds.

My last batch of shrooms bruised blue when picked, were dried in a dehydrator for 24 hours and crushed into powder with the slightest touch. I made 5g into tea, and felt next to nothing. I was sober enough that I could've driven had I needed to.

It's been a couple months since my last attempted trip, so I don't think it's tolerance.

I'm leaning towards genetics being the culprit. I made gummies out of my previous batch of shrooms and felt nothing as well. They both came from agar plates made from the same non-vendor syringe. The only hesitation on blaming genetics is because I've read that unless you have a monoculture, even LCs can give different genetic expressions. It seems unlikely that two different batches grown from different agar plates would end up with shit genetics, thus I'm wondering if the problem could also be me.

How often do more experienced growers end up with shrooms that are duds?

Any insight into this is welcome



Beta blockers should not by any means interact with the serotonin receptors, but it's hard to tell without knowing exactly which meds you are on.
Do you have anyone in your life who could try these shrooms of yours?

I have never mixed psychedelics and beta blockers before, but I have used them.
The beta blockers calm me down and inhibits the fight or flight response.
Psilocin do not act on those receptors.

I'd think the opposite would happen, where beta blockers could slow down your metabolism, dragging out the experience and potentially help you stay calm.

:2cents:


Thanks for responding.

I take Peridiperol (sp?). It's not a BB, it's an ACE.

I don't know enough about them to say the difference.

I'm going to give some to my MIL, but she's on way more medicine than anyone I know, so it's not the best test case.

Edit: Google seems to think that ACEs can lower serotonin levels and effect the way things are absorbed through the stomach. Seems like a likely culprit.

Do people on SSRIs just take way more to break through that barrier?


If that is the case with your BP meds about serotonin, perhaps taking 5-HTP before dosing could help. I take it every day as a mood booster (I don't have much natural serotonin), and I usually take a double dose before taking shrooms. Seems to make a little difference with me, like it kinda turbo-charges the shrooms. YMMV of course, but maybe something to look into. Definitely check for any potential interactions with your meds before taking.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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5 grams, to me, is unfathomable terror...

However, have you tried making tea with citric acid?
QuantumZ00 has a thing or two to say about that :wink:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
I have a quick question: is there anyone here with years of growing who grows with spawn and coir only, or spawn and verm only?

If so do you have a link to how you do it? or if it's simple, what are your ratios, and do you always do that.


It's been deemed unnecessary to use boiling water, but I still follow Bod's Bucket Tek I've done with and and without verm. I mainly use the verm to stretch out my coir supply when I'm getting low.

If I'm mixing verm into my coco I usually do 1000g coco to 200g verm.

As far as ratio goes I spawn at a 1x myco qt to 2-4x coco/verm. In my 6qt shoeboxes I run 1 myco quart to 2 qt CV. And I usually put a pseudo casing of the CV on top to avoid exposed grains. I've had great success with the 1:2 ratio.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca] * 1
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KauaiOrca said:
I can't understand why this isn't the most recommended tek for noobs. Dead simple and extremely reliable. I learned it from this tek... https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984#21390984



This is very appealing, will be moving in this direction. I kind of love this thread for the random topic roulette factor. Sort or simpler than time-suck scouring.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycCycle] * 1
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MycCycle said:
5 grams, to me, is unfathomable terror...

However, have you tried making tea with citric acid?
QuantumZ00 has a thing or two to say about that :wink:


I've done 6g of PE dry before. A lot of chewing was involved, and a wild ride, since that trip I prefer to mask the flavor in teas, chocolates, or lemon tek.


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