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InvisibleSclorch
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Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy
    #2885740 - 07/13/04 01:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Since when did changing your mind become equivalent with hypocrisy?
When did it become wrong to hold one opinion, then, in light of new information, hold a contrary opinion?
When did it become infinitely virtuous to hold steadfast to an opinion regardless of it's erroneous?


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2885754 - 07/13/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've changed my mind a lot, and for a while a lot of the liberals on this board treated me like a traitor.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2885755 - 07/13/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Admitting you were wrong went out of style when they invented politicians.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2885806 - 07/13/04 01:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The man who never changed his mind is a fuck up.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2885848 - 07/13/04 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Since when did changing your mind become equivalent with hypocrisy?




hypocrisy isn't when you change your beliefs/mind. Hypocrasy is professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that you don't hold or possess.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2885913 - 07/13/04 01:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

correct.

changing your mind is lying ban irony.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2885972 - 07/13/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
Admitting you were wrong went out of style when they invented politicians.



:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2885985 - 07/13/04 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Sclorch said:
Since when did changing your mind become equivalent with hypocrisy?
When did it become wrong to hold one opinion, then, in light of new information, hold a contrary opinion?
When did it become infinitely virtuous to hold steadfast to an opinion regardless of it's erroneous?



Changing your mind is ESSENTIAL in the acquisition of knowledge. However, a motive one has for changing his mind on an issue can justly merit criticism. Bush completely renegging on his campaign promise for no nation building is not particularly a good thing in my mind(in the sense that I don't believe any new knowledge he gained merited such a policy). Kerry flip-flopping on the patriot act is something else that changing ones mind on might deserve criticism. THE MAN DID NOT EVEN READ THE ACT before he voted 'Yay' and passed that mostly-abhorrent bill into law. Rather then being virtuous I believe it is unbelievably foolish and, as potential power increases, destructive to hold steadfast to a set of beliefs in light of logical and rational knowledge that contradicts those currently held. However, a position change in the absence of such new knowledge for purposes of, oh I don't know, garnering votes in an election year or carrying out unjust military adventures, is absolutely horrible.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2887030 - 07/13/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Last time I changed my mind the mechanic left out some parts :shrug:Funny the damn thing seems to run better:lol:Musta been smog control....
WR:wexican:


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2888138 - 07/14/04 02:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I changed my mind once, but the damn thing just got dirty again and I figured, to hell with it.

I made up my mind one time, too - but the next morning it was all messed up again and I figured I'm just going to sleep in it every night... what's the point?

That's just me, tho.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2888236 - 07/14/04 02:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am a hypocrit, turncoat, traitor, waffler, flip-flopper, and I have no principles or moral integrity.

this has taken my entire lifetime to achieve and I am very proud of it.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2888654 - 07/14/04 07:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think you're a traitor....


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Edited by Innvertigo (07/14/04 08:09 AM)


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2888692 - 07/14/04 07:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I change my mind all the time.
There's so much info and stimuli flying around that it seems useless to let ideas stagnate.

Sometimes it frigtens me how "right" it felt at the time, and how differently I see it now. What will I think in another year?

I've learned not to hold onto any belief too tightly.


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Re: Changing Your Mind and Hypocrisy [Re: Sclorch]
    #2893150 - 07/15/04 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder about this also Sclorch.





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