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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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I smell hypocrisy!
    #2411600 - 03/09/04 06:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tuesday, March 9, 2004 10:56 a.m. EST
Kerry Praised Clinton for Snubbing Iraq War Allies

Likely Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has repeatedly slammed President Bush for not getting the cooperation of European allies before attacking Iraq last year.

But in 1997, Kerry praised President Clinton for preparing to attack Iraq by deploying ships, aircraft and troops over the objections of France and Russia.

In a November 1997 audiotape broadcast by WABC Radio's Monica Crowley on Monday, Kerry painted Clinton as resolute for putting U.S. war plans against Baghdad in motion.

"The president has, in effect, put military action on the table," he told CNN's "Crossfire."

"Secretary Cohen canceled his trip, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff canceled a trip, troops are deployed, the aircraft carriers are being brandished. There's no misunderstanding here about where the United States is prepared to go," the Massachusetts Democrat assured.

Kerry praised the Clinton White House for thumbing its nose at our European allies.

"Clearly the allies may not like it," said the top Democrat, before suggesting that France and Russia were spineless.

"Where's the backbone of Russia, where's the backbone of France, where are they in expressing their condemnation of such clearly illegal activity?" he railed.

Kerry also praised the White House for giving the United Nations the brush-off.

"The [Clinton] administration is leading. The administration is making it clear that they don't believe that they even need the U.N. Security Council to sign off on a material breach because the finding of material breach was made by [U.S. weapons inspector Richard] Butler."

Kerry defended President Clinton's go-it-alone war plan as the best way to protect U.S. national security, telling "Crossfire," "I think the United States has always reserved the right and will reserve the right to act in its best interests."

Said WABC's Crowley after airing the revealing tape, "It's obvious that the real reason Kerry was for military action last time around in 1997 and not now is because the last time it was a Democratic president thinking about doing it."

Listen to Monica Crowley on WABC weeknights 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET and on Saturdays 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. ET.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2411606 - 03/09/04 06:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

*two thumbs up*


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2411619 - 03/09/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This shit will never end with this guy. He is craven scum who craves power because there are no more heiresses to marry


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2411625 - 03/09/04 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

is there a difference between 'preparing to attack' and actually attacking?


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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: afoaf]
    #2411637 - 03/09/04 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ah, so the point sailed right past you.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2411663 - 03/09/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I hope this isn't surprising to anyone...


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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: trendal]
    #2411675 - 03/09/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not at all. It's just fun to point out.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2411680 - 03/09/04 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ha, goooooood readin'.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2411691 - 03/09/04 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if I remember correctly, Kerry voted in support of
Bush going to war, but voted down the 87 billion
dollar amendment, correct?

are there any articles about how Kerry reacted to
Clinton's unilateral attacks after they were found to
be based in flagrantly incorrect intelligence data?

(it's funny...I was just browsing newsmax no less than
an hour ago for giggles...)


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2413593 - 03/10/04 05:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Imagine you were at the doctor's office for some kind of severe bladder infection.

They offer you a choice between two cathetars. Purple or pink.

Both are totally gay colours, and both will cause a lot of discomfort, plus, either way you're going to be pissing blood for about a week.

Now you've got a pretty good idea of how I'd feel casting a ballot in the US.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: Phluck]
    #2413633 - 03/10/04 05:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A decent analogy, but not complete.

One catheter is 1" in diameter, the other 2". They both hurt, one just hurts more.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2413770 - 03/10/04 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

More evidence that both sides are liars and damn cheats...How long will the tedium continue ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: Phluck]
    #2413848 - 03/10/04 08:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's a pretty good analogy, it actuall made me cringe.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2414333 - 03/10/04 11:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

not really....

they're trying to compare kerry's pre-unilateral-strike-support
for clinton with kerry's post-unilateral-strike-opposition to bush.

the fact of the matter is that he supported clinton and supported
bush initially; he voted in support for action in iraq and only
voted against the 87 billion dollar amendment on the grounds
that all or some of it should come in the form of a loan to iraq.

had kerry opposed bush's war outright, then there would be a
clear double standard, but again, he supported bush and clinton
in their unilateral strikes against iraq. the only difference is that
once it became clear that bush had misled us in the march to
spread our war from afghanistan to iraq, Kerry, along with a
whole heck of a lot of other people, became very critical of the
'imminent threat' and 'wmd' theories.

this is like comparing apples and oranges from where I sit, but
then again, we are talking about http://www.newsmax.com , they
don't even try to claim 'fair and balanced'.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2414364 - 03/10/04 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, it's too bad none of our "military intelligence" was correct.


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2415228 - 03/10/04 03:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And of course, if 'Military Intelligence' isn't an oxymoron, I don't know what is! :tongue:


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2415307 - 03/10/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ah, "government ethics."


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: Evolving]
    #2415326 - 03/10/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Or how about "compassionate conservative"?


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: silversoul7]
    #2415576 - 03/10/04 04:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hahahah!

Hmmm...do I want to vote for Pico Dark or Pico Lite?


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Re: I smell hypocrisy! [Re: afoaf]
    #2416340 - 03/10/04 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

and only
voted against the 87 billion dollar amendment on the grounds
that all or some of it should come in the form of a loan to iraq.





So he wanted to make the Iraqi's pay to be bombed? I can see Im going to warm to this guy...


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