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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere] * 4
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I don't know why, but I went into working with Semperviva for my first time thinking that I was working with slower genetics (compared to cubes), but so far it's been the opposite.

Inoculated these rye berries from agar 14 days ago. After 10 days they were 25-40% colonized, so I gave them a shake. My understanding is that after 100% colonization (which they nearly are) I want to let them consolidate further another 5+ days. Given this, is it safe to assume I should be ready to spawn these in about a week?



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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery | Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs | Clean spawn checklist for the new grower | How I do Rye Berry Prep | Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek | Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar

Edited by mycosispeon (05/28/24 02:38 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycosispeon] * 3
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they are fast on grain and sub... In some lineages, they are slow to pin... but it's on the maturing of the fruits that they are truly slow. The silver lining is that you get to admire, mist and worship fruits in your tubs for longer :biggrin:
I don't do the consolidation waiting, when it's 100% I send it.
best of luck, the jars look promising :rockon:

Ps: suggestions for your Live Action Movies to Watch on Shrooms journal: Koyaanisqatsi and Baraka


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Edited by 999999999 (05/28/24 02:55 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 999999999]
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Gleyck said:
they are fast on grain and sub... In some lineages, they are slow to pin... but it's on the maturing of the fruits that they are truly slow. The silver lining is that you get to admire, mist and worship fruits in your tubs for longer :biggrin:
I don't do the consolidation waiting, when it's 100% I send it.



Good to know

Gleyck said:
Ps: suggestions for your Live Action Movies to Watch on Shrooms journal: Koyaanisqatsi and Baraka



Hell yeah. Movie list updated! Love that :thanx:


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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery | Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs | Clean spawn checklist for the new grower | How I do Rye Berry Prep | Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek | Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar

Edited by mycosispeon (05/28/24 05:56 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere]
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I'm going to have to try making that tumeric and black pepper tincture!

I also like to make a cold brew tisane of fresh tumeric, ginger, cucumber, and peppercorns, which works pretty well on inflammation, and doubles as a refreshing summer drink.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycosispeon] * 1
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Letting them sit after full colonization is from PF tek, grain jars are ready to go right at 100.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 16
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 3
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The first pluster


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Nichrome said:



:fuckinawesome:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] * 1
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Spores were from Roscoe.

:hatsoff:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 19
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Wild subtropicalis from from Veracruz mx







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Tiocfadh ár lá

https://www.inaturalist.org/people/holymushroom

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: SomeGuysFungi] * 3
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Tried Beef’s Punisher after harvest on Saturday, left to dunk overnight and then punished a bit more on Sunday after draining. Put the lid on normally but without clipping it down, and here it is today on Wednesday. This seems like really fast growth considering how long it’s taken in general so I think he’s on to something. This box was slower to pin, but when it did, it pinned more evenly. I used millet and the sub is about 1 cm thicker than the other box.



My slower box, I used rye for this one and the sub was a bit thinner… here’s how it looked on May 14




And here’s it today, I’ll wait a few more days to harvest, probably on the weekend. These fruits are shorter and slimmer than in the millet box. But there are too many variables to know if it’s due to millet vs. rye, or delayed pinset after putting out side fruits, or simply sub thickness. I’ll try to be more scientific about it going forward.



Interesting how at first I only got side fruits along the edge in this box, and then I got this pin set a couple weeks later avoiding the edges. Does this count as different flushes? I wonder if it has to do with microclimate and how the mist fell on the sub, or if it has to do with nutrient usage. In any case they do seem to prefer being dubtubbed as opposed to lid cracked.


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Edited by Mycodemus (05/29/24 06:23 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mycodemus]
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Okay, looking for some guidance on spawning to bulk here in a few days...
  • What is your preferred substrate? Is pasteurization necessary?
  • What is your preferred spawn/sub ratio?
  • My plan was to spawn to two 20qt Sterilite tubs modded using EZDial TEK. Will these work? Do the holes need to be covered with SFD?


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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery | Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs | Clean spawn checklist for the new grower | How I do Rye Berry Prep | Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek | Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycosispeon] * 1
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Alot of amazing grows I've seen with added bentonite (clay)


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Tiocfadh ár lá

https://www.inaturalist.org/people/holymushroom

https://www.instagram.com/someguysfungi?igsh=MTZzajdjYmltdmRoag==

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: SomeGuysFungi]
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Alot of the people in this thread spawn with coir, then case with something else at full colonization.
Edit: jiffy mix or cactus soil
Edit 2: here's a good write-up
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28106091#28106091

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
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JW123 said:
Alot of the people in this thread spawn with coir, then case with something else at full colonization.
Edit: jiffy mix or cactus soil
Edit 2: here's a good write-up
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28106091#28106091


:thanx: and yes, i've been referring to @Melgo's write-up. I just wanted to gauge whether there were variances to the approach since


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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery | Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs | Clean spawn checklist for the new grower | How I do Rye Berry Prep | Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek | Stro's Cleaning and Isolating On Agar

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: mycosispeon] * 7
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mycosispeon said:
Okay, looking for some guidance on spawning to bulk here in a few days...
  • What is your preferred substrate? Is pasteurization necessary?
  • What is your preferred spawn/sub ratio?
  • My plan was to spawn to two 20qt Sterilite tubs modded using EZDial TEK. Will these work? Do the holes need to be covered with SFD?



Keep it simple for your first try.
  • Use coir (maybe add verm) and do pasteurize it. A spawn/sub ratio of 1/1 or 1/2 will speed things up.
  • Case with sifted and pasteurized cactus soil.
  • EZDial tek will work, it'll give you spaghettis tho' (not a great look, but amazing yield), no need to cover holes with SFD.

Again: keep it simple for your first try. If you have only the most basic ingredients & prep (coir, verm, cactus soil) you'll reduce the amount of variables, it'll be easier do debug.

When you master that, you can give a go to a different sub recipe such as ekabpils' Growing Psilocybe Zapotecorum - MicoZ Tek.

Best of luck!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: SomeGuysFungi]
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SomeGuysFungi said:
Wild subtropicalis from from Veracruz mx








Interesting how these guys have radial stripes/ridges on their caps. Mine don’t (I got my print from Roscoe). If I recall I’ve seen a couple people in here whose fruits have that striped/ridged look. What is the difference between the striped/ridged and the non-striped varieties? Do they still have the same Latin name?


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Edited by Mycodemus (05/30/24 06:07 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mycodemus] * 4
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that having a Semp see through cap to the gills just means the cap is moisturised and vice versa if they are dry


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 999999999] * 10
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I agree. I see the gills through the caps when I get large fruit that I keep wet.



Here are some just before a good misting. I basically drench these caps twice a day. You get those nice radial lines, and they drop spores much more readily if kept wet.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo]
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Quote:
When you master that, you can give a go to a different sub recipe such as ekabpils' Growing Psilocybe Zapotecorum - MicoZ Tek.


WOW - that's really friggen nice! Thank you for sharing that!


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