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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: joze]
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Oh I wouldnt recommended picking the grains up with your mouth and spitting them into the jars, a mouth is a filthy place. I use a vacuum and then dump the canister into the jars.


I’m telling you guys E6000 is king to RTV

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 1
    #28650276 -

Yahra said:
Can you use a cotton towel instead of a trivet to raise the jars in a cooker?


They used to say this for old school steaming teks and guides in the 90s but you can actually burn the towel and it doesn't do a good job of keeping the jars from direct heat.

Its better to use jar rings or just SOMETHING metal ( :rockon: ) to keep them off the bottom.


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No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Edited by elasticaltiger (02/07/24 01:40 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Leftfield420]
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Leftfield420 said:
Bobgas said:
I had a SFD that was rtv'd onto a plastic lid come off in the dishwasher.  First that has happened.  It looked like the rtv, which stuck to the sfd, had a good even spread. 

Makes me wonder whether there really is an air tight seal created by rtv.



this is why I scuff(cross hatched with my scalpal) around the holes I drill into plastic lids... I've yet to lose a sfd I've rtv'd to my lid that way... only sfd's I had pop off have no scuffing around the hole


I tried scuffing mine and that took a lot of work to do by hand.  And still came apart.

Now I drill the hole and put a whole wide mouth filter disk on the underside of the lid.

Plus millet kept getting between the filter and the lid with the rtv method.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Now I drill the hole and put a whole wide mouth filter disk on the underside of the lid.



Yeah honestly fuck cutting up disks and messing around with RTV. I got really crafty and did this with cut up tyvek envelopes from the post office originally. Worked alright.

But then I switched to plastic lids from Fungi Perfecti with a full disk underneath. I will never fuck with anything like modding lids again. It's just worth every penny to not have to mod lids and to have the assurance that you're following the method of basically every legit mushroom operation in the world when you use the full sfd.

No issues with popping the tops, just unscrew and bam your golden. Rescrew and you're done.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
    #28650308 -

I'd have done something similar if I had the enough sfd's for all my jars, I haven't had to put filters on my lids in over 4yrs now.. so maybe when those lids quit working I'll actually buy a bunch of sfd's

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #28650312 -

I think going unmoded with zero type of filter has been the best decision I’ve made. Eventually I’ll go with all new great value white plastic lids. I love those things. Always out of stock though locally to me.

Here’s a half gallon



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
    #28650376 -

So how do you not get contamination?
You just flipped the lid upside down and then tighten down the ring?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bobgas]
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Bobgas said:
I had a SFD that was rtv'd onto a plastic lid come off in the dishwasher.  First that has happened.  It looked like the rtv, which stuck to the sfd, had a good even spread. 

Makes me wonder whether there really is an air tight seal created by rtv.


I haven't had one fail in eight years, but I am the exception, they do pop off.  I score the ever holy shit out of my lids before adhering my SFD and I do believe that ha something to do with my good fortune.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #28650399 -

Yeah giving them a good surface to bite is important. I’ve heard sand paper. I used sand paper and then actually used a knife to make some shallow grooves in the plastic. If and when they fail I’m going to give unmodded a go.


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28650406 -

I drilled holes in jar Tops.

What are you guys talking about?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28650410 -

You use RTV? It so, it’s important to provide a textured surface to your material before applying the RTV, otherwise you run a greatest risk of the gasket peeling off.


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28650411 -

You mean when it’s time to open the jars I could lose the silicone to the glass?


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Dream Interpretation
GC’s Ayahuasca Recipe
Free Therapy

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28650413 -

I mean the RTV you used to adhere your SFD to the lid of your spawn jars can peel off


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
So how do you not get contamination?
You just flipped the lid upside down and then tighten down the ring?


See Pastywhyte's Easy Lid Tek.

I run unmodified mason jar lids, like SupaThaRipper. But I don't flip the lid upside down, I leave it right-side-up with the rubber gasket touching the glass.

With an unmodified lid, you leave it slightly loose, not tightened down all the way. Because you need a small gap for gas exchange, so that the colonizing mycelium gets enough O2.

How do unmodified lids work? Basically just gravity. Here is a diagram I drew (ran out of upload space on Shroomery). There are mold spores floating all around in the air, but due to the 90 degree angle of the lid, it is really difficult for a spore to actually float through that tiny gap, and into your grains.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: joze]
    #28650509 -

Are there any good threads on strain domestication?

I have some f1 prints from a wild clone coming and also would like to make my Bisporus grows from MS banger.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
Are there any good threads on strain domestication?

I have some f1 prints from a wild clone coming and also would like to make my Bisporus grows from MS banger.


Didn't read it but the headline looks right up your alley.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960982223014604

"Domestication through clandestine cultivation constrained genetic diversity in magic mushrooms relative to naturalized populations"


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

Edited by elasticaltiger (02/07/24 04:59 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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Put in 400ml each in 3 jars for agar broth and got out 350ml after the PC cycle. Water was colored. This didn’t happen for the first year and a half of making agar, but now it seems like a consistent outcome.

Why is that?


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Put in 400ml each in 3 jars for agar broth and got out 350ml after the PC cycle. Water was colored. This didn’t happen for the first year and a half of making agar, but now it seems like a consistent outcome.

Why is that?


Anything different? New bag of agar powder, new malt extract, anything like that? I'm guessing you're letting your PC naturally release pressure rather than opening the release valve?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: joze]
    #28650574 -

joze said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Put in 400ml each in 3 jars for agar broth and got out 350ml after the PC cycle. Water was colored. This didn’t happen for the first year and a half of making agar, but now it seems like a consistent outcome.

Why is that?


Anything different? New bag of agar powder, new malt extract, anything like that? I'm guessing you're letting your PC naturally release pressure rather than opening the release valve?


Yeah just letting it do it’s thing. Never had boil over issues unless I do a full 500ml.

Honestly I stopped foiling over the caps. That’s all that’s changed in the whole time


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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28650603 -

I need to test my new pc but i am not ready to go in full operation mode yet.

Thought i could prepare some agar for testing.

Are there any disadvantages if i prepare agar and let it sit in the fridge for a couple of weeks before i use it compared to pour it "fresh"?


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