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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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he was on holiday


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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Screwup said:
I mean fuck it. Put ISO on it and an inch or so out then cut the bitch out.  It has shrooms let me grow.



Or just put it in the garage and let it grow lol.


Oh you got multiple tubs? Yeah I’d just toss it then.



I think it came back to bit me in the ass. Cut a section of the tub out. The next day I say the trich still there and spreading starting to turn green now. Left it in the same 10' x 10' bedroom / grow area with other tubs. Noticed a tub that was on its second flush have a trich stop start up. Then on a shoebox of APE what looks like trich of just a dense cluster of pins forming. Not sure yet. But my question is what's more likely.
Trich starting in that one tub then it sporulates and spreads to my other tub?

Or the fact that I used the same bucket and left over coir as the substrate for multiple of these tubs. That maybe trich was present in the brick of coir or the vermiculite I used.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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I don't think anyone can tell you about the exact probability of each. I know Trich can lay "dormant" in a cv bucket and take over once grain gets added. I think it also can sporulate to other tubs.

Personally, I think it is more likely it was present at spawning though. Either in the grain or the bucket.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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It shouldn't spread to your other tubs if they have healthy spawn.  If your spawn was already bacterial and weak, the mold may be able to spread and take over.

Just to check, you haven't been using the same bucket for grain prep and coir prep, have you?

Some coir has trich in it because it's good for plants.  I think it's usually written on the packaging if that's the case.  If it's coir for reptile bedding, it should be fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Ive realized theres a perfect amount of water per mass of coir for each brand

Eco earth is 3.7x

Exo terra is 4.4x

Coco bliss is 4.6x

Anyone got a good measurement for canna coir?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
Ive realized theres a perfect amount of water per mass of coir for each brand

Eco earth is 3.7x

Exo terra is 4.4x

Coco bliss is 4.6x

Anyone got a good measurement for canna coir?


ill be damned.  i struggled with ecoearth.  cocobliss gang.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
Ive realized theres a perfect amount of water per mass of coir for each brand

Eco earth is 3.7x

Exo terra is 4.4x

Coco bliss is 4.6x

Anyone got a good measurement for canna coir?


That's interesting! I've been using an off brand for the last year (no longer available) and I use 5x.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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Okay I gotcha. As far as I could tell my jars were clean. But for sure I understand there always being the possibility of bacteria present even thnot noticeable to my eyes.

No I have a dedicated bucket for my coir. I got a 12 gal feed bucket (not previously used for feed or anything, bought new from the store) I use for my bucket teck. It's awesome being able to make 2-3 bricks at a time. But there has been times that I have left over coir and it can sit in there for a week or so.

Good to know about some coir having trich in it. I assume the coco bliss ones don't? Just assuming cause it seems like that's the most popular one used around here

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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These are measurements with out vermiculite correct?
Coir only amounts?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Seems to be the issue in most cases. Guess I'll just have to get a better eye for bacteria in my jars. 👍🏼

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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Cocobliss does not contain trich. Furthermore any bucket tek with boiling water would kill any trich present in any coir as it dies off around 130f in tests.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chumbum]
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Chumbum said:
These are measurements with out vermiculite correct?
Coir only amounts?


Yes


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
AspectOfTheCreator said:
Ive realized theres a perfect amount of water per mass of coir for each brand

Eco earth is 3.7x

Exo terra is 4.4x

Coco bliss is 4.6x

Anyone got a good measurement for canna coir?


ill be damned.  i struggled with ecoearth.  cocobliss gang.


Yea fuck eco earth. Im running an experiment now. Put 5 jars of penis envy to exo terra and 5 jars to eco earth. Grain was all prepped at the same time, all jars were inoculated with the same plate. They all looked identical afrer 3 weeks. Theyre just starting to fruit now. 2 eco earth tubs have had to be tossed. Fuck that brand. Ive had no problem since switching to exo terra and now im using coco bliss.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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You sure your Eco Earth tubs weren't a little on the wet side?  I usually only use 3.5x, and sometimes I feel like even that is a touch too much.

Coco bliss will hold more water, so I'm sure it's great to use.  I've thought about it, but I'm a cheap bastard and I haven't had any problems using Eco Earth.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314] * 1
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The 3.5X is the gold standard that I first saw used by Bod. I’ve only ever used one brand from the start and 3.5 is right on the nose for perfect field capacity
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YMMV but 3.5X is a damn good place to start for anyone trying to find their coir legs.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Quick Question,
Finishing up my first flush but have to leave town for 4 weeks. How can I preserve my BRF cakes for subsequent flushes (if it’s possible)? I found advice for shorter term storage but not a month… Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Canuck66] * 2
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Canuck66 said:
Quick Question,
Finishing up my first flush but have to leave town for 4 weeks. How can I preserve my BRF cakes for subsequent flushes (if it’s possible)? I found advice for shorter term storage but not a month… Thanks!


Quickly inoculate some more cakes before you go.

Return in 4 weeks.

Win?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SwabMarley]
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Hi again, all! I think my shoeboxes might be too moist. I’m getting a bit of pooling on the mycelium. Should I unlatch the lids? Should I try and soak up some of the pooled water with a clean paper tower (by touching the water but not the mycelium)? Any other tips? Im not exactly sure how this came to be. Maybe over-sprayed the CVG right after spawning? I hope all this moisture doesn’t spell doom! I could always case them (APEs) if that would help… Please see the pics below. Thank you so much!

(Oops, I dropped a bit of water when opening the lid, too…)




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: scwoopz]
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scwoopz said:
Hi again, all! I think my shoeboxes might be too moist. I’m getting a bit of pooling on the mycelium. Should I unlatch the lids? Should I try and soak up some of the pooled water with a clean paper tower (by touching the water but not the mycelium)? Any other tips? Im not exactly sure how this came to be. Maybe over-sprayed the CVG right after spawning? I hope all this moisture doesn’t spell doom! I could always case them (APEs) if that would help… Please see the pics below. Thank you so much!

(Oops, I dropped a bit of water when opening the lid, too…)





Yeah they are too wet. Any puddles of water try to soak up with a paper towel gently. You can unlatch the lids or flip them over to try to slowly increase fae. Give it a day or two to hopefully dry up a bit. If you still need to increase fresh air, you can angle your flipped lids so there are holes in the corner. Be very careful of swinging too far in the other direction.

Have you been misting at all or is this what happened just leaving them latched?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Way said:
scwoopz said:
Hi again, all! I think my shoeboxes might be too moist. I’m getting a bit of pooling on the mycelium. Should I unlatch the lids? Should I try and soak up some of the pooled water with a clean paper tower (by touching the water but not the mycelium)? Any other tips? Im not exactly sure how this came to be. Maybe over-sprayed the CVG right after spawning? I hope all this moisture doesn’t spell doom! I could always case them (APEs) if that would help… Please see the pics below. Thank you so much!

(Oops, I dropped a bit of water when opening the lid, too…)





Yeah they are too wet. Any puddles of water try to soak up with a paper towel gently. You can unlatch the lids or flip them over to try to slowly increase fae. Give it a day or two to hopefully dry up a bit. If you still need to increase fresh air, you can angle your flipped lids so there are holes in the corner. Be very careful of swinging too far in the other direction.

Have you been misting at all or is this what happened just leaving them latched?


Not misting at all, just with the lid latched. It was covered in puddles, I just did my best to soak them all up and not damage the mycelium too much. I left the lids unlatched. I think I over-misted right after spawning and that the temp swings in my room aren’t helping. A few of the boxes had some trich-looking stuff, too. Too bad (see pic, should I just toss these?). Hopefully the two healthy ones come out alright 🤞


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