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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Mist only aborts exotics



what does that even mean lol. can you rephrase that for me please

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chris77] * 1
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:takingnotes:
I mean cubes don't care. Pans however will abort on you


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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OH OK SORRY I was reading that wrong as fuck.

Ok this is what my tub is looking like.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chikn fingaz]
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Spacecadet94 said:
SO whats the consensus. If i got pins and my sub is dry. should i worry about misting?

Should we mist at all stages?

does misting really cause abortion?



Misting likely doesn’t cause abortion. I mist my pins during the second flush daily and it’s never been a problem in any capacity. If you have pins and your sub is dry, mist and reduce FAE until you don’t need to mist anymore.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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ty 10-4

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chikn fingaz] * 1
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What's the optimal way of watering tubs after a flush when using liners to prevent side-pins?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chikn fingaz]
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I got some ATL7
But I also got mostly Mexicana.

I assume the Mexicana is going to give me stones.

Is it?

Everyone is saying ATL7 is the way to go.

Did I mess up by getting mexicana?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sub-Easy]
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both of them produce stones, mexi is said to be a little tricker to fruit


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Camera93]
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The mex stones are going to be much smaller as well, like pea-sized or less, ime.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stroopwafelman]
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stroopwafelman said:
What's the optimal way of watering tubs after a flush when using liners to prevent side-pins?



i just poured water on it.  what a pain liners are. they dont work for shit anyway.  proper surface conditions and fae > liners.

this is why i dont use liners anymore.  i like to fill the tub up to the holes and put another tub on it to weight it down.  then another one on that.  then a dumbell on the top one.  i have one of those vinyl coated dumbells

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Good evening. I recently put some agar to grain with blenderless, and they went green pretty fast. 3 grew really fast and then went green. 2 were slower and went green at the shake.

I realized while going through the process in my head that I didn't cover my jars with foil when I PC the grain. Normal lids, drilled holes covered with micropore.

So the quick question, What is purpose of the foil when PC grain jars with micropore tape covering holes? Certainly it prevents water pooling, but does this prevent contam in some way?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ManBearPig81]
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Micropore tape isn't waterproof and water will absolutely render it useless. Make sure to put paper towel between the foil and micropore to keep it from sticking to the foil


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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micropore isnt exactly a great lid filter for a lot of reasons . recommend getting sfd and cutting them up.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Getting side and bottom pins on one of my FP+ tubs. I didn't use a liner, but it was packed pretty tight. I'd read several folks were doing that these days and decided to give it a try. It's a 19qt unmodified tub. Lid has been flipped since spawn on 19 Sep. What would you suggest to improve things? Temp and humidity here are mid 70s and 40%. Mist? LITFA?



Closer shot of surface and some pins. Seems dry to me.



I noticed a gap that was not there yesterday



Checked to see if I had a bunch of bottom pins and sure enough..




This culture did do this to me the last time I grew it so maybe genetics? But I'm also growing it in a similar environment. This was a 6qt unmoded shoebox. So I basically just scaled up.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JXAllen] * 1
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JXAllen said:
Getting side and bottom pins on one of my FP+ tubs. I didn't use a liner, but it was packed pretty tight. I'd read several folks were doing that these days and decided to give it a try. It's a 19qt unmodified tub. Lid has been flipped since spawn on 19 Sep. What would you suggest to improve things? Temp and humidity here are mid 70s and 40%. Mist? LITFA?



Closer shot of surface and some pins. Seems dry to me.



I noticed a gap that was not there yesterday



Checked to see if I had a bunch of bottom pins and sure enough..




This culture did do this to me the last time I grew it so maybe genetics? But I'm also growing it in a similar environment. This was a 6qt unmoded shoebox. So I basically just scaled up.





looks like you tried to late case? thats a tall tub to run with no holes.  your conditions werent right. 

I wouldnt late case.  Just cover grains and compress and level.  id try pastys ez dial mono hole pattern with that size of tub.

Edited by BeefExtreme (10/03/23 01:14 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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That's just a pseudo casing of CVG that went on at spawn. It's a quart and a half thick. For some reason this tub decided to fruit once it hit the pseudo layer. The other 3 are colonizing and have not stated pinning yet. So I'm hoping to make whatever changes I need to now. I was going to try EZ dial if these got fuzzy. But I usually have a problem with drying out. Do you think adding some holes will help?




Here's a picture from a few days ago. The one that's pinnning now hit the pseudo casing and started knotting up.



The other tubs grew into it.


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Edited by JXAllen (10/03/23 01:24 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JXAllen] * 1
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have you read comeback kids guide to surfsce condition? if not, please do.

yes i think holes would help.  seems like youre running your coir too dry.  whats the recipe? are you weighing your brick?

also, gypsum isnt a thing we put in substrate these days.  verm is only used to correct over-wet coir.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I used 650g GH cocotek coir, 2 quarts verm, a cup of gypsum and ~4.5quarts of water. I start with 4 and add up to 5 but this batch was almost exactly 4.5. I squeeze it to check field capacity. It doesn't run but drips. I know the gypsum isn't needed and it's a carryover from the peat and poo days. But I was under the impression that it didn't hurt anything and I have a big bag of it  from a couple years ago and no idea what else to do with it. I can leave it out if you think it might be causing issues.

Been a while since I've read it. I'll go re-read it.


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Edited by JXAllen (10/03/23 01:37 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: JXAllen] * 1
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my formula says that your recipe might be a bit wet.

650 x 4.6 (the magic number) = 2990 grams water .  (2.99 liters).  thatd be around 3.1 qts.  youre doing 4.5 - 5? seems way too much.  even with the 2 qts of verm it still seems way heavy which would explain more to me than the gypsum.  too wet to pin.  the edges dry faster so thats where they were able to pin.

my advice is less water but more compacted sub? yet more sub.  2 qts spawn mix with 8qts coir.  the. two more qts on top.  compact.  pasty ez dial .

Edited by BeefExtreme (10/03/23 02:27 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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are you actually weighing your brick or going off what the package says.  its never right.  had a brick this morning weighed 520 but ive also seen bricks weighing over 800.  makes a huge difference.

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