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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Probably. Vendors get their spores from people who grow, I assume. Someone sent them something and they sold it as far as I can tell.



I was more so wondering if multiple popular vendors were all using the same source for something as ubiquotous as B+

Those little fuckers look tree stumps. How are they in terms of potency?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Way said:
Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is it’s not mycelium or clean?



On agar, I'd agree with that statement. When you've got contam on a substrate surface, that would be a different story IMO. Some you need to toss the bin and burn your house. Some you just keep an eye on.

But generally, it's because they are noobs. You were a noob too at one point.



Which… do you need to burn your house/bin over?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AyePlus]
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AyePlus said:
I do 3.75 in the costco 45 qt’s all day...



Great to hear, thanks for the tips. I'm hoping to stay unmodded but I'll see how it goes and keep the drill and tape handy. I have a while to think about it yet.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tholos]
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tholos said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Probably. Vendors get their spores from people who grow, I assume. Someone sent them something and they sold it as far as I can tell.



I was more so wondering if multiple popular vendors were all using the same source for something as ubiquotous as B+

Those little fuckers look tree stumps. How are they in terms of potency?



Yeah that’s what I meant, sorry. Probably one person sold a buttload of spores to multiple vendors. Can’t think of another explanation.

They can range from above average to jet fuel.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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Mycodemus said:
Way said:
Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is it’s not mycelium or clean?



On agar, I'd agree with that statement. When you've got contam on a substrate surface, that would be a different story IMO. Some you need to toss the bin and burn your house. Some you just keep an eye on.

But generally, it's because they are noobs. You were a noob too at one point.



Which… do you need to burn your house/bin over?



Okay, kind of an exaggeration :laugh:

But anything that sporulates you definitely want to remove from the room immediately in my opinion.  Anything bacterial is generally not a huge deal.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 2
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Way said:
Mycodemus said:
Way said:
Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is it’s not mycelium or clean?



On agar, I'd agree with that statement. When you've got contam on a substrate surface, that would be a different story IMO. Some you need to toss the bin and burn your house. Some you just keep an eye on.

But generally, it's because they are noobs. You were a noob too at one point.



Which… do you need to burn your house/bin over?



Okay, kind of an exaggeration :laugh:

But anything that sporulates you definitely want to remove from the room immediately in my opinion.  Anything bacterial is generally not a huge deal.



Makes sense. Stop scaring us noobs 😅😂


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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Is potato flake agar ok made with tap water?

I don't know what the city put in as far as chlorine or other disinfect, but I can't taste it. It's not like pool water.

In hindsight now, I'd hate to wait a week to find my plates won't grow anything.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WhatEyeFind] * 1
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Tap is fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Luftwaffles90]
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Luftwaffles90 said:
Can hoogshagenii be spawned to plain coir/ verm or does it need additional nutes?



Giving your question a bit of a bump, since I don't know the answer but would be interested. I haven't even seen this strain offered by many vendors, though I know that Semperviva is a variant.

I would assume then that it would favour the same conditions as Semperviva, but would like to know from someone with more experience. This is a strain that I'd really like to grow myself too, given it's fascinating history.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tetrasage] * 1
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Tetrasage said:
Prolific Koi said:
Inoculated same agar dish with left over MAZ and RW prints. Will I get a variation of the two or will they come out normal? Please and thank you.



Heres a quote from RogerRabbit that might help you

Quote:
If you want to cross two strains(I'm using 'strain' in the sense it's usually used here, that is naming a print and calling it a strain), simply print one cap right on top of the print left by another cap.  By then using the resultant print, it would be nearly impossible to not get several crosses.  You'd want to do it on agar and isolate the strains as they differentiate, carefully labeling each one.  when you fruit them, you'll be able to tell which is a cross or not, provided you used two distinctly different parents.
RR





THANK you lol

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: johnukguy] * 1
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johnukguy said:
Luftwaffles90 said:
Can hoogshagenii be spawned to plain coir/ verm or does it need additional nutes?



Giving your question a bit of a bump, since I don't know the answer but would be interested. I haven't even seen this strain offered by many vendors, though I know that Semperviva is a variant.

I would assume then that it would favour the same conditions as Semperviva, but would like to know from someone with more experience. This is a strain that I'd really like to grow myself too, given it's fascinating history.



Yeah I just got a print of it from an online vendor. I keep hearing that you can treat it just like a cube but looking at stonesun's grows of it, he's always using some kind of hpoo mix. I'm thinking about doing a side by side grow, one with straight coir/ verm and the other with some kind of hpoo mix. I was just curious if anyone had tried straight coir/ verm and had success.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Luftwaffles90] * 1
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What's the likelihood of being able to clone this mutant and have this be a stable pheno?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BirdsOnTrees] * 2
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It's not very likely. If you clone that one you will likely have mostly regular mushrooms with a few of those weird ones just like how your tub is now.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:



I can't even grow contams!

In my effort to track down why things are not working I reconciled myself to the fact I have to learn agar:rolleyes: To eliminate the possibility of me making bad agar i purchased pre-made agar plates off the internet. I inoculated one with Penis Envy (LC Syringe), another with Golden Teacher (spore syringe), and left the other open to the air for one minute as a control.

Since NOTHING grew, including contams, I suspect the agar is bad/non-existent/corrupt. Would that be the right conclusion? Should I try again with different agar? What next?

EDIT: stored at a consistent 70-degrees, intermittent light.



Bump


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 1
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Looks like your spores were clean but not viable (dead). It also appears that your environment is also clean and chance did not land anything that would eat that media upon it. If you want to know if the agar is useless, just lick your finger and touch the media in one of your plates. If stuff grows, the agar is likely fine.

The color of that agar is weird. What kind of agar did you buy?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Yahra said:
xShroomerx said:
They should dry out in about 12 hours or so :thumbup:



After browsing the forum a little bit more i found several posts suggesting that you should let the print dry for at least 24 hours.

Are you sure that 12 hours is sufficient?



Smellyhobbit said:
12 hours is probably fine. 24 hours is DEFINITELY fine.



As Smellyhobbit answered, 12 is good and dry and 24 would be +12 hours more dry :grin:
12-24 is what you'll always find mentioned.  After you've removed the cap and placed a cover back over to dry, then you're good to close the foil up at 12 or so if you want.
If you have time and don't mind waiting then 24 hours would be 100% dried as opposed to maybe 95%? 
All just a general guesstimate of course, I find them dry often before 12 hours too, this all may depend on print size, dark/thickness, and general humidity in that room too.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 1
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Proposition 122 said:
Proposition 122 said:



I can't even grow contams!

In my effort to track down why things are not working I reconciled myself to the fact I have to learn agar:rolleyes: To eliminate the possibility of me making bad agar i purchased pre-made agar plates off the internet. I inoculated one with Penis Envy (LC Syringe), another with Golden Teacher (spore syringe), and left the other open to the air for one minute as a control.

Since NOTHING grew, including contams, I suspect the agar is bad/non-existent/corrupt. Would that be the right conclusion? Should I try again with different agar? What next?

EDIT: stored at a consistent 70-degrees, intermittent light.



Bump



This happened to me with a batch of very hard agar (high agar agar percentage to the water amount). I fucked up and let the mix boil for too long so a lot of the water evaporated. No spores wanted to germinate on those plates, even after a month and a half.

I also had a bunk spore syringe that wouldn't germinate anywhere. After a long time I finally managed to get some mycelium out of it on a BRF puck. You could try that too.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xShroomerx] * 1
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Thank you for the clarification.

Lets pretend i foiled the print up not completely dry and put it in a ziplock bag.

Would it dry completely on its own or is there a chance that it gets moldy or something?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 1
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If you want to be 100% sure, and think it may still be a little damp, leave it in the bag it's in, but reach in w/ clean tweezers and open one side of the foil and then close the bag.
Then seal the foil back up tomorrow and you'll be set.  You said you let it air dry for 15 hours though, so I'm betting you it's 100% dry and you'll be fine :wink: :mushroom2:

I'm not sure what would happen to a wet/damp print sealed up, but I'd bet that it may start growing mushrooms, or at least trying to anyway. 
It's not going to be air-tight so would probably continue to dry anyway.
:mushdance:

Edited by xShroomerx (05/24/23 02:01 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is it’s not mycelium or clean?



It's fun to identify stuff growing on plates. :shrug:


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