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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tetrasage]
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Say I have some colonized grain, a plastic tub, and coco coir. I need to figure out how much of everything to use for that tub. Is my thought process here correct?
  • Pick a spawn to sub ratio, like 1:3
  • Figure out how much substrate you want, like 4" deep
  • Fill up the tub to that depth and measure the water used, so you know the total volume of substrate you need
  • From there calculate how much spawn and how much coir you need to hit that volume. (Be flexible on the allowable depth so you are working with whole jars of grain.)

The tubs I plan to use are 45 qt with a footprint of about 18" x 12". 4" depth would be at least 15 qt volume -- somewhat more because the calculation ignores how the tubs widen towards the top.

So, I could probably do 16 qt total volume at 1:3, with 4 grain jars and 12 qt coir, and be in the range of 3-4" depth. Reasonable plan?

BTW while I have these tubs on hand I am open to other sizes. They were just super cheap at Costco so I grabbed 'em.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yuggoth] * 1
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Yuggoth said:
Say I have some colonized grain, a plastic tub, and coco coir. I need to figure out how much of everything to use for that tub. Is my thought process here correct?
  • Pick a spawn to sub ratio, like 1:3
  • Figure out how much substrate you want, like 4" deep
  • Fill up the tub to that depth and measure the water used, so you know the total volume of substrate you need
  • From there calculate how much spawn and how much coir you need to hit that volume. (Be flexible on the allowable depth so you are working with whole jars of grain.)

The tubs I plan to use are 45 qt with a footprint of about 18" x 12". 4" depth would be at least 15 qt volume -- somewhat more because the calculation ignores how the tubs widen towards the top.

So, I could probably do 16 qt total volume at 1:3, with 4 grain jars and 12 qt coir, and be in the range of 3-4" depth. Reasonable plan?

BTW while I have these tubs on hand I am open to other sizes. They were just super cheap at Costco so I grabbed 'em.



Sounds good to me. Looks like you worked it out. If the spawn is good you could get away with 3 jars and more coir to grain though. 4 quarts is usually done in 66qt tubs. Should be fine with 4 if you want though.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Cool, thanks @Way.

How to pick that ratio is one of the final puzzle pieces; guess I will figure that out when I have grain ready, but that is still weeks away. (I'll likely make more jars than I need for any reasonable ratio, and stash the extras in the fridge.)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 1
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Way said:
Yuggoth said:
Say I have some colonized grain, a plastic tub, and coco coir. I need to figure out how much of everything to use for that tub. Is my thought process here correct?
  • Pick a spawn to sub ratio, like 1:3
  • Figure out how much substrate you want, like 4" deep
  • Fill up the tub to that depth and measure the water used, so you know the total volume of substrate you need
  • From there calculate how much spawn and how much coir you need to hit that volume. (Be flexible on the allowable depth so you are working with whole jars of grain.)

The tubs I plan to use are 45 qt with a footprint of about 18" x 12". 4" depth would be at least 15 qt volume -- somewhat more because the calculation ignores how the tubs widen towards the top.

So, I could probably do 16 qt total volume at 1:3, with 4 grain jars and 12 qt coir, and be in the range of 3-4" depth. Reasonable plan?

BTW while I have these tubs on hand I am open to other sizes. They were just super cheap at Costco so I grabbed 'em.



Sounds good to me. Looks like you worked it out. If the spawn is good you could get away with 3 jars and more coir to grain though. 4 quarts is usually done in 66qt tubs. Should be fine with 4 if you want though.



I do 3.75 in the costco 45 qtโ€™s all day, the new totes breathe alot around the lid try them unmodded first or you might regret having holes you dont want..

I use about 12-15 qts of sub to 3.5-4 lbs in thoseโ€ฆ

They work alright unmodded or a little better with 2 small hole on short ends at 4.5โ€ covered with mp tape until full colonization.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yuggoth]
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Yuggoth said:
Cool, thanks @Way.

How to pick that ratio is one of the final puzzle pieces; guess I will figure that out when I have grain ready, but that is still weeks away. (I'll likely make more jars than I need for any reasonable ratio, and stash the extras in the fridge.)



The ratio is less important than you think.

I wouldn't be able to tell you what ratio I use if you asked. Just stick how many quarts are applicable for your container and fill to a decent substrate depth is how I roll.

Commercial growers will go way higher than 1:10, but you need good spawn. I'd recommend to fluctuate between 1:2-1:6 depending on the quality of your spawn.

The more substrate you have to grains, obviously the slower it will colonize. But it also gives contam a chance to out compete the spawn if is there.

There are no hard rules for the ratio.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 4
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Why are the Similar Threads suggestions at the bottom always 20 years old?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 3
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Because every question has been asked before a million times.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 2
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Mycodemus said:
Smellyhobbit, what are the white mushrooms in a shoebox in your sig?



Kodama. If all goes well Iโ€™ll have swabs in about 3 weeks. Iโ€™ll do my best to remember you if youโ€™d like one.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xShroomerx] * 1
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xShroomerx said:
They should dry out in about 12 hours or so :thumbup:



After browsing the forum a little bit more i found several posts suggesting that you should let the print dry for at least 24 hours.

Are you sure that 12 hours is sufficient?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Can hoogshagenii be spawned to plain coir/ verm or does it need additional nutes?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Smellyhobbit said:
Mycodemus said:
Smellyhobbit, what are the white mushrooms in a shoebox in your sig?



Kodama. If all goes well Iโ€™ll have swabs in about 3 weeks. Iโ€™ll do my best to remember you if youโ€™d like one.



Just discovered Kodama  in someone elseโ€™s thread today actually, like cute blue-topped muffins. Nice synchronicity. Iโ€™d appreciate that, thank you :smile: Iโ€™ll send a PM.

Ah, it was pictures by Nichrome, my favorite is the heart shaped one https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28330605#28330605


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Edited by Mycodemus (05/23/23 04:53 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 2
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Yahra said:
xShroomerx said:
They should dry out in about 12 hours or so :thumbup:



After browsing the forum a little bit more i found several posts suggesting that you should let the print dry for at least 24 hours.

Are you sure that 12 hours is sufficient?



12 hours is probably fine. 24 hours is DEFINITELY fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Mycodemus said:
Smellyhobbit, what are the white mushrooms in a shoebox in your sig?



Kodama. If all goes well Iโ€™ll have swabs in about 3 weeks. Iโ€™ll do my best to remember you if youโ€™d like one.




who are the parents/what is the lineage of Kodama? albino lover here

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Damn. Just folded up my first print and put it in a bag after 15 hours or so.

Was a really dark thick print. Hope it doesn't get moldy.

:cryaboutit:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 1
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QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is itโ€™s not mycelium or clean?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tholos] * 2
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tholos said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Mycodemus said:
Smellyhobbit, what are the white mushrooms in a shoebox in your sig?



Kodama. If all goes well Iโ€™ll have swabs in about 3 weeks. Iโ€™ll do my best to remember you if youโ€™d like one.




who are the parents/what is the lineage of Kodama? albino lover here



Back in the summer of 22 a smattering of vendors were shipping syringes labeled B+ that would grow the albinos in my signature. What we know for sure is thereโ€™s APE genes in there, and the assumption is the other half is probably B+ but no one is totally sure. It blobs like APE and can fin like something in the B+ lineage. But itโ€™s kind of a mystery.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
tholos said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Mycodemus said:
Smellyhobbit, what are the white mushrooms in a shoebox in your sig?



Kodama. If all goes well Iโ€™ll have swabs in about 3 weeks. Iโ€™ll do my best to remember you if youโ€™d like one.




who are the parents/what is the lineage of Kodama? albino lover here



Back in the summer of 22 a smattering of vendors were shipping syringes labeled B+ that would grow the albinos in my signature. What we know for sure is thereโ€™s APE genes in there, and the assumption is the other half is probably B+ but no one is totally sure. It blobs like APE and can fin like something in the B+ lineage. But itโ€™s kind of a mystery.




What? Did all of those vendors source those spores from the exact same production batch to stock their B+? Crazy

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 1
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Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is itโ€™s not mycelium or clean?



Iโ€™m a newb, but I like to know what stuff is out of scientific curiosity. I know what kind of contam doesnโ€™t matter in the end, but I like calling things by their proper names and knowing what Iโ€™m looking at


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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Screwup said:
QQ why do people give a single care about what their contam is when all that matters is itโ€™s not mycelium or clean?



On agar, I'd agree with that statement. When you've got contam on a substrate surface, that would be a different story IMO. Some you need to toss the bin and burn your house. Some you just keep an eye on.

But generally, it's because they are noobs. You were a noob too at one point.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tholos]
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Probably. Vendors get their spores from people who grow, I assume. Someone sent them something and they sold it as far as I can tell.


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