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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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This little guy popped up in some germination plates I did 3 days ago. No idea how long he's been there, I just checked up on them now for the first time.

What do you think it is? Looks like Penicillium to me?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bigworm] * 1
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Bigworm said:
ManBearPig81 said:
I put 3 qts of millet spawn to half a brick of coir and 1.5qt of verm into a 32qt tub on 7 May. This is my second try at this type of tub it is a Pasty style mono but smaller, and last time it dried out. This time I have put micropore tape on all holes. I had a look today, and I am unsure what I should do. I don't really see any water on the mycelium surface.

I have yet to grow a shroom except on an old agar plate. Tired of failure, and would like advice on what I should do with this tub at this stage.

Tub is in a closet and temp has been 72F and Humidity right around 36%

Thank you







Everything looks ok so far. What I can tell you is from my experience so it may be different for you or others. I use ez dial monos in the 27qt size. I use 2qt spawn per half brick of coir so you are a bit higher on the spawn which it should colonize faster but lack a little moisture so you may need to bottom water during your first or second flush. The mp tape is a good idea for now. The inside of the tub looks like it's got condensation on it so the humidity in your tub seems right. I don't go by hygrometers, mine were never right.
As for the moisture on the surface, it's a little early in my opinion to be worried about that. Usually I start to see micro droplets form on the surface when it gets to 80 or 90 percent colonized. If it doesn't get them on it's own I wait to mist until 100 percent colonized. I've never had a sub dry before pins using an ez dial and very rarely do I need to mist before first flush but it does happen sometimes. Field capacity is a big factor if your sub is drying out in these. How was yours? I like to get a drop or 2 when I squeeze the sub really hard if it's cubes. If it's semps I like it dryer than that. Don't fan the tub at all either. I know you didn't say you were, I'm just letting you know if you were not to. If the surface looks really dry, like real light brown, you can mist a little. Hopefully this helps.



Thanks for the reply. When I made my sub this time I would say that it was just over field capacity. Sounds like I will let it ride for now. I thought it was too early to be concerned, but wanted to verify.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
Newshroom42 said:
Hey guys,

When do you think I should send these jars to bulk?

I inoculated them with agar 2 weeks ago and just did a second shake yesterday as they were around 70%-90% colonized. It’s been about 1.5 days from the second shake and everything is covered with mycelium. It’s not as thick as it was before the shake so Im thinking it should be ready in like a day or two.

I have one grow under my belt but it was definitely bacterial as I went MSS to grain bags. It had a completely different texture like melted ice cream and was a pain to break apart. First bag contamed before the first flush, but second bag is still going strong one month later. It is lacking with yield, but no contam yet.

I’m assuming it should look something like my first picture, but all over the jar.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

This was the most colonized jar before the second shake:


This is one of the jars about 36 hours after the shake:




The growth is kind of wispy and nonchalant which troubles me. Just give it more time; if it colonized completely and it doesn’t get worse, you can spawn it, but my guess is when you smell it it might have a sickly sweet or citrus smell



:whathesaid: that growth does not look normal

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
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ButtFace said:
Anyone use a monotub as a cloning tray for weed? I bet it would work. Just put a weak light source on top in the correct spectrum.



With coir? How are you keeping the roots from getting tangled. There are better ways. Many better ways.:amanita2:



A monotub is a self-contained microclimate for s2b which is designed to be as spartan and hands-off as possible. It’s one of the best designs for growing bulk. I use ez-dials, 66qt & 70qt



I know what a monotub is. He is talking about cloning weed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 2
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the roots would get all jumbled.

if any seedling is sick or has any fungal rot it could spread to the other seedlings.

16oz solo cups for the win.


just poke a hole in the bottom for drainage. i used an old mono tub to transport them all tho :crazy2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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fiddle_head said:
Newshroom42 said:
Hey guys,

When do you think I should send these jars to bulk?

I inoculated them with agar 2 weeks ago and just did a second shake yesterday as they were around 70%-90% colonized. It’s been about 1.5 days from the second shake and everything is covered with mycelium. It’s not as thick as it was before the shake so Im thinking it should be ready in like a day or two.

I have one grow under my belt but it was definitely bacterial as I went MSS to grain bags. It had a completely different texture like melted ice cream and was a pain to break apart. First bag contamed before the first flush, but second bag is still going strong one month later. It is lacking with yield, but no contam yet.

I’m assuming it should look something like my first picture, but all over the jar.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

This was the most colonized jar before the second shake:


This is one of the jars about 36 hours after the shake:




The growth is kind of wispy and nonchalant which troubles me. Just give it more time; if it colonized completely and it doesn’t get worse, you can spawn it, but my guess is when you smell it it might have a sickly sweet or citrus smell



Just curious why you think it might smell like that. I assume you are thinking it could be bacterial?  Also, when you say wispy are you talking about the first jar, or the jar after the shake?

What I have read about bacterial contam is that there is usually wet grains, melted ice cream look, mycelium spiking out, uncolonized grain,  slow or no recovery after a shake, metabolites, and a lot of condensation.

From what I can tell there are no wet spots, no metabolites, a tiny  bit of condensation (heard this is normal), it was easy to break up when I shook them, and recovered really fast

Unless I’m missing something they seem like they are going pretty good, but of course I could be wrong as I’m new to this.

Please let me know if I’m missing anything as I want to know more for future grows. Thank you!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: redrum]
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redrum said:
Today is 10 days since spawning for my very first bulk grow using an unmodified tub. I had the lid facing down up until today for colonization and just flipped it for FAE.

Looking for any input.






Bumping for reply. 11 days today no knots yet.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GarbagePerson]
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Hi guys and gals, just giving the question a bump.

Since those spot have been removed from the surface, no new fuzz has popped up. The colonization under the top coir layer seems to be progressing well.

Cheers!

GarbagePerson said:
Quick Question:
Shoebox (coir) spawned on 12.05. So far mycelium growth can be measured almost by the hour and everything looks normal.

Today, in the morning (14.05) I've looked into the shoebox (from outside of the box) and saw nothing unusual. Same day, evening, saw 3 white whispy, fuzy, tiny spots.
I have carefully removed them using a sanitized utensil.
Is this mold (each spot is 1mm or less in diameter)?


And one üpicture of the white stuff on the utensil used:


Thank you everybody!





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
the roots would get all jumbled.

if any seedling is sick or has any fungal rot it could spread to the other seedlings



Roots can’t get jumbled if you has no roots
:rollsafe:

You’re talking about putting plants or seeds into dirt though, ButtFace is talking about cloning, should be coming out of trays and into dirt after roots appear so entanglement is not really an issue

ButtFace said:
I have a spare monotub. I don't have a propagation dome. They essentially serve the same person and I can add or remove tape to adjust humidity. I'm gonna try it with Rapid Rooters.



Oh ya if you’re just trying to put together a setup for a tray or two out of stuff you already have, there’s no reason that shouldn’t work! Probably one of the better alternatives. I’d block the lower holes off completely at least at first but there’s a 1000 ways to skin a cat, you’ll make it work for ya

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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RoscoeReturns said:
Mycodemus said:
Ok. Is it to the point I should redo the box or let it ride?

Yeah, fairly tight snap down lids.



Bump for answer



What you did is fine. Let it ride.



Thanks Roscoe!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: redrum]
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redrum said:
redrum said:
Today is 10 days since spawning for my very first bulk grow using an unmodified tub. I had the lid facing down up until today for colonization and just flipped it for FAE.

Looking for any input.






Bumping for reply. 11 days today no knots yet.



Looks good. Leave it alone.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Quick question

Can I use stale wheat berries? About a few years old from a prepper who has about twenty 5 gallon pails full.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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When planting outdoor bed does the sub still need to be pc?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WhatEyeFind] * 1
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WhatEyeFind said:
Quick question

Can I use stale wheat berries? About a few years old from a prepper who has about twenty 5 gallon pails full.



As long as they’re not obviously spoiled by mold or pests.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
WhatEyeFind said:
Quick question

Can I use stale wheat berries? About a few years old from a prepper who has about twenty 5 gallon pails full.



As long as they’re not obviously spoiled by mold or pests.



Thanks

Being old doesn't lose any of their nutrients? And /// how old is perhaps, too old?

I like to recycle old stuff, make it useful for something...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WhatEyeFind] * 2
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WhatEyeFind said:
Smellyhobbit said:
WhatEyeFind said:
Quick question

Can I use stale wheat berries? About a few years old from a prepper who has about twenty 5 gallon pails full.



As long as they’re not obviously spoiled by mold or pests.



Thanks

Being old doesn't lose any of their nutrients? And /// how old is perhaps, too old?

I like to recycle old stuff, make it useful for something...



I’m not sure how old is too old, honestly. It seems like a “know it when you see it” situation. These are decomposers; it’s not like the food has to be super fresh. Just so long as it isn’t already being eaten by a competing mold, I’d say go for it.

Even if they lost some nutrients, we pack way way way more food into our mushroom spawn than these guys actually need. It’ll be good to go.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Anyone know where to get a vermiculite for a decent price?  I am having trouble finding a medium size verm.  Everyone around me has fine.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: crash_compton]
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Fine grade also works.

I just look at garden supply stores locally. It’s been hard to find.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: crash_compton]
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You don't need verm in this hobby.

Bulk? Just plain coir
PF tek? Replace verm with coir

Coir is all you want.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: crash_compton] * 2
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Verm is pricey these days. I've been using coir only for everything. Saving my verm for plants. 😂


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