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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ManBearPig81]
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I forgot to label some grain jars. If I mix multiple varieties of cubes in the same tub, will colonization of that tub be slower? Just with the genetics competing?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Feeling squishy] * 2
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They should just grow side by side.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Ok cool. So should I probably not totally blend them together then? Like mix with sub but keep the different grains on their own sections of the tub?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Feeling squishy] * 1
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Up to you. Both work. You can mix them all up and you can do half and half. People have done both!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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ok cool, thank you!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ManBearPig81]
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ManBearPig81 said:
I put 3 qts of millet spawn to half a brick of coir and 1.5qt of verm into a 32qt tub on 7 May. This is my second try at this type of tub it is a Pasty style mono but smaller, and last time it dried out. This time I have put micropore tape on all holes. I had a look today, and I am unsure what I should do. I don't really see any water on the mycelium surface.

I have yet to grow a shroom except on an old agar plate. Tired of failure, and would like advice on what I should do with this tub at this stage.

Tub is in a closet and temp has been 72F and Humidity right around 36%

Thank you






Everything looks ok so far. What I can tell you is from my experience so it may be different for you or others. I use ez dial monos in the 27qt size. I use 2qt spawn per half brick of coir so you are a bit higher on the spawn which it should colonize faster but lack a little moisture so you may need to bottom water during your first or second flush. The mp tape is a good idea for now. The inside of the tub looks like it's got condensation on it so the humidity in your tub seems right. I don't go by hygrometers, mine were never right.
As for the moisture on the surface, it's a little early in my opinion to be worried about that. Usually I start to see micro droplets form on the surface when it gets to 80 or 90 percent colonized. If it doesn't get them on it's own I wait to mist until 100 percent colonized. I've never had a sub dry before pins using an ez dial and very rarely do I need to mist before first flush but it does happen sometimes. Field capacity is a big factor if your sub is drying out in these. How was yours? I like to get a drop or 2 when I squeeze the sub really hard if it's cubes. If it's semps I like it dryer than that. Don't fan the tub at all either. I know you didn't say you were, I'm just letting you know if you were not to. If the surface looks really dry, like real light brown, you can mist a little. Hopefully this helps.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
Yahra said:
I have a cake in my water tub which has some blue colored spots.

Is this bruising or mold?



Before i put it there, it pinned early and grew some fruits without me dunking it.

After i harvested the fruits i gave it a dunk and rolled it in verm.


Looks like it’s dehydrated, are you using an SGFC or water tub or what? I see a lot of people run into this problem esp with the phase-out of the SGFC


The dry look is normal. It's in the "don't mist for 12 hours after dunk so the verm sticks better to the cake" phase.

I am using a water tub.

Cake is the one top right and has been sitting there for 10 hours only. His brothers are in the tub for 3 days already.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Growing golden teachers, been growing four days now. Does this flush look ready to pick? Or should I pick the ones with veil breaks and any aborts I find. Thank you!
Pictures are from 5/10 and today 5/14


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers *DELETED* [Re: Proposition 122]
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ButtFace] * 1
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ButtFace said:
Proposition 122 said:
ButtFace said:
Anyone use a monotub as a cloning tray for weed? I bet it would work. Just put a weak light source on top in the correct spectrum.


With coir? How are you keeping the roots from getting tangled. There are better ways. Many better ways.:amanita2:


No. Keep the cuttings in rockwool and a tray but placed in the monotub. It's worth a try. I think the cuttings would root w/out getting moldy.


So use a $17 tote instead of purpose built dome that costs a fraction of the price with no added benefit? I don’t see it.

You could always add holes to the sides of the domes that likely came with your trays if you wanted airflow down lower but that kinda defeats the purpose and you shouldn’t really have the domes on that long imo. I take mine off soon as the seed or clone grabs hold. And again it’s an opinion but ditch the rockwool and run peat pucks and that problem should clear up


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aPurpleCray0n]
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Hi guys

I promise I've used the search facility, but I'm still not sure how to proceed.

After a couple of good runs with cakes, in order to save space & be more discrete I've done a few shoeboxes using cakes grated and mixed with coir.
The first 3 produced a good flush but looked pretty ropey afterwards so I added them to my failures pile - a burial patch in the garden in the hope that they might produce 'in the wild'.  I did try soaking one, but it just sat there soggy and lifeless.

The latest 2 have been the best yet with 60g dry from 10 cakes.  They really deserve the opportunity to have a 2nd flush, but the surface is pitted and they've contracted a lot.

Some threads suggest heavy misting, others a thorough dunk.  I don't know what's best for these 2, but I'm minded to turn them over (decent flat surface on the top), soak for a couple of hours and squish them to spread the contents to meet the sides again, drain, and sit back and wait.

Is that feasible?  Or do fellow growers have alternative suggestions?

Thank you :-)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ButtFace]
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ButtFace said:
Proposition 122 said:
ButtFace said:
Anyone use a monotub as a cloning tray for weed? I bet it would work. Just put a weak light source on top in the correct spectrum.


With coir? How are you keeping the roots from getting tangled. There are better ways. Many better ways.:amanita2:


No. Keep the cuttings in rockwool and a tray but placed in the monotub. It's worth a try. I think the cuttings would root w/out getting moldy.


What's the purpose of the monotub?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hey guys,

When do you think I should send these jars to bulk?

I inoculated them with agar 2 weeks ago and just did a second shake yesterday as they were around 70%-90% colonized. It’s been about 1.5 days from the second shake and everything is covered with mycelium. It’s not as thick as it was before the shake so Im thinking it should be ready in like a day or two.

I have one grow under my belt but it was definitely bacterial as I went MSS to grain bags. It had a completely different texture like melted ice cream and was a pain to break apart. First bag contamed before the first flush, but second bag is still going strong one month later. It is lacking with yield, but no contam yet.

I’m assuming it should look something like my first picture, but all over the jar.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

This was the most colonized jar before the second shake:


This is one of the jars about 36 hours after the shake:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
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What are the consequences of the perlite being oversaturated in a pf cake fruiting chamber?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Janus62]
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Janus62 said:
Hi guys

I promise I've used the search facility, but I'm still not sure how to proceed.

After a couple of good runs with cakes, in order to save space & be more discrete I've done a few shoeboxes using cakes grated and mixed with coir.
The first 3 produced a good flush but looked pretty ropey afterwards so I added them to my failures pile - a burial patch in the garden in the hope that they might produce 'in the wild'.  I did try soaking one, but it just sat there soggy and lifeless.

The latest 2 have been the best yet with 60g dry from 10 cakes.  They really deserve the opportunity to have a 2nd flush, but the surface is pitted and they've contracted a lot.

Some threads suggest heavy misting, others a thorough dunk.  I don't know what's best for these 2, but I'm minded to turn them over (decent flat surface on the top), soak for a couple of hours and squish them to spread the contents to meet the sides again, drain, and sit back and wait.

Is that feasible?  Or do fellow growers have alternative suggestions?

Thank you :-)


Need pics
Why not just wait and see if they produce a second flush? Cakes and sub can get letty beat to shit and still flush fine imo.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:
ButtFace said:
Proposition 122 said:
ButtFace said:
Anyone use a monotub as a cloning tray for weed? I bet it would work. Just put a weak light source on top in the correct spectrum.


With coir? How are you keeping the roots from getting tangled. There are better ways. Many better ways.:amanita2:


No. Keep the cuttings in rockwool and a tray but placed in the monotub. It's worth a try. I think the cuttings would root w/out getting moldy.


What's the purpose of the monotub?


A monotub is a self-contained microclimate for s2b which is designed to be as spartan and hands-off as possible. It’s one of the best designs for growing bulk. I use ez-dials, 66qt & 70qt


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42]
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Newshroom42 said:
Hey guys,

When do you think I should send these jars to bulk?

I inoculated them with agar 2 weeks ago and just did a second shake yesterday as they were around 70%-90% colonized. It’s been about 1.5 days from the second shake and everything is covered with mycelium. It’s not as thick as it was before the shake so Im thinking it should be ready in like a day or two.

I have one grow under my belt but it was definitely bacterial as I went MSS to grain bags. It had a completely different texture like melted ice cream and was a pain to break apart. First bag contamed before the first flush, but second bag is still going strong one month later. It is lacking with yield, but no contam yet.

I’m assuming it should look something like my first picture, but all over the jar.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

This was the most colonized jar before the second shake:


This is one of the jars about 36 hours after the shake:



The growth is kind of wispy and nonchalant which troubles me. Just give it more time; if it colonized completely and it doesn’t get worse, you can spawn it, but my guess is when you smell it it might have a sickly sweet or citrus smell


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus]
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Mycodemus said:
stockw said:
Mycodemus said:
Does this look alright? Just made a shoebox and the top 1/3 or so is straight coir. Seems thick to me, do I need to redo? Top 1.7 cm or about 5/8 of an inch is top layer coir, everything is well compressed by hand. The sub is otherwise 1:2 shredded PF:coir






If you're doing a pseudo casing layer I believe generally you'll use a quarter of your total sub for it.

I've got those shoes too, tight lid eh?


Ok. Is it to the point I should redo the box or let it ride?

Yeah, fairly tight snap down lids.


Bump for answer


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
Janus62 said:
Hi guys

I promise I've used the search facility, but I'm still not sure how to proceed.

After a couple of good runs with cakes, in order to save space & be more discrete I've done a few shoeboxes using cakes grated and mixed with coir.
The first 3 produced a good flush but looked pretty ropey afterwards so I added them to my failures pile - a burial patch in the garden in the hope that they might produce 'in the wild'.  I did try soaking one, but it just sat there soggy and lifeless.

The latest 2 have been the best yet with 60g dry from 10 cakes.  They really deserve the opportunity to have a 2nd flush, but the surface is pitted and they've contracted a lot.

Some threads suggest heavy misting, others a thorough dunk.  I don't know what's best for these 2, but I'm minded to turn them over (decent flat surface on the top), soak for a couple of hours and squish them to spread the contents to meet the sides again, drain, and sit back and wait.

Is that feasible?  Or do fellow growers have alternative suggestions?

Thank you :-)


Need pics
Why not just wait and see if they produce a second flush? Cakes and sub can get letty beat to shit and still flush fine imo.


Thanks for responding fiddle_head.  They're looking pretty dry though, there's a 1/4" gap all round, and the surface is covered in 'pot holes' due to clumsy harvesting (yep - I'm still new to this).  I definitely need to rehydrate them somehow and to get the top even close to level I'll need to tamp it down all over.  As the last one I tried soaking (submerged overnight) ended up like a wet sponge, I know I need a different approach.

On a positive note, I did remember to take a few biopsies from one of the best fruits and the plates are looking really good so far.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
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Mycodemus said:
Mycodemus said:
stockw said:
Mycodemus said:
Does this look alright? Just made a shoebox and the top 1/3 or so is straight coir. Seems thick to me, do I need to redo? Top 1.7 cm or about 5/8 of an inch is top layer coir, everything is well compressed by hand. The sub is otherwise 1:2 shredded PF:coir






If you're doing a pseudo casing layer I believe generally you'll use a quarter of your total sub for it.

I've got those shoes too, tight lid eh?


Ok. Is it to the point I should redo the box or let it ride?

Yeah, fairly tight snap down lids.


Bump for answer


What you did is fine. Let it ride.


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