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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
He’s also implying that trump isn’t responsible for the economic situation. We’ve lost 40 million jobs because trump ignored and downplayed the threat of the virus, and he’s still doing it 125,000 dead people later. Americans are now pariahs around the world.


I still don't understand what Trump could have done to prevent the job losses.  Sure, he could have done a better job of having tests and respirators available, but the job losses are the result of the country actually doing something (keeping people home).  Can anyone please help me understand?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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The entire economy is made up.  Rents, Debt repayment, Bills, almost everything could have been paused.  The difference could have been made up by printing money and handing it out.  Everyone keeps their jobs, their businesses don't go under, etc.  Granted, Trump couldn't just unilaterally make that happen but he could have advocated for something along those lines and it might have gone a long way.  Senate republicans are afraid of his base.  Obviously, that was never going to happen because trumpy is scum as are the senate and the house on both sides

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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That's a great suggestion, but I think there's no way Congress would have gone along with that.  In fact, it was proposed by Pramila Jayapal but she couldn't even get any establishment dems on her side.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
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Dont let anyone forget that the credit bureaus refused to give people a break for reporting delinquencies on their loans. You know, the same type of credit bureaus that gave AAA ratings to CDOs (which were complete junk) that led to the finicial crisis.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/lenders-blocked-plan-to-protect-americans-credit-scores-amid-coronavirus/


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Here some more money this administration threw away. They might get some of it back though.:rolleyes:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/dead-wrong-feds-sent-1-4b-stimulus-checks-over-million-n1232070
..." More than a million Americans who had died received COVID-19 stimulus payments totaling $1.4 billion...
Treasury and the IRS sent out the first three batches of payments using previous operational policies and procedures for stimulus payments "which did not include using [Social Security Administration] death records as a filter to halt payments to decedents."...:facepalm:
:moneyeyes: . . . :peace:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vinsue] * 2
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If you want to destroy the USA, Trump is the guy that will get it done. Religiously, expedtiously, MF is the emperor of incompetence, he has to be the avatar of some neolithic god of chaos.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon] * 1
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There is no return trajectory for the economy after another shutdown - we all agree about that?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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There's none now.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Well, that means we are looking at the progressive meltdown into a Mad Max or Gengis Khan type scenario

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Depends what you mean by progressive, in this context. Yeah, but no.

It will still take quite a while for this shit show to go down the tubes. I could see a couple local areas going Mad Max.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Those not wearing masks in indoor public places will be right at home in the Mad Max landscape.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: falcon] * 1
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I think if you're driving real fast you don't need one.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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If the federal is lost I am worried about the safety of the nukes

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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At least they have a bunch of different layers of security, or maybe I have seen too many movies.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Trump posted a tweet with his elderly supporters chanting “white power”



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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Metoo said:
Well, that means we are looking at the progressive meltdown into a Mad Max or Gengis Khan type scenario


Meh.  False dichotomy.  The system will change permanently, but that doesn't mean mad max.  This isn't the first time the world has seen permanent change.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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What changes do you think will happen? With the economy folding federal taxes will stop being paid. No one will lend more money to a political structure that has no effective power to tax. When the federal layer is gone we will have states competing for resources and it can get ugly very quickly.

Of course I do not know what will happen but early stages of a complete meltdown would look just like what is unfolding - hospitals overflowing, riots, executive branch with the head up its arse, Xi or Putin ready to pay for more FB ads to keep the flames going...

Edited by Metoo (06/28/20 04:13 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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The economy isn't going to fold.  The federal government won't disappear.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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It will be humbling to see the "US is falling apart" narrative in Iran's and China's public comms

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