Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Magic Mushrooms Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2665770 -

relativexistance said:
I must disagree with some of you on this issue. I don't really think we are going to have some major catastrophic famine or something that will wipe out massive amounts of people. I mean do you really think that our government or major corporations, or even other governments would allow such a thing to occur. ...


If we are hoping for rich corporations and other money grubbers to save our asses, then we are *definitely* fucked. Do you think they can see past their greed to the next generations health?? NOOOO i don't ever and will never trust a corporation....all they care about is money and power. They will exploit and rape and plunder the Earth and all of us to get what they want. If we are trusting *them* to save us we are in for a very rude awakening! They can't see past their noses.




Quote:
I just think we have many options and that hope is not all lost.


That is good. But don't you think we should use an alternative energy source instead of relying so heavily on oil? The only reason we do is because "we" are owned by the oil guys...


--------------------
Once in awhile you can get shown the light

In the strangest of places if you look at it right...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: trendal]
    #2665796 -

Well yes it is a matter of them allowing it to happen. By not doing something to prevent it from happening they are therefore allowing it because I am sure they don't want it to happen. This is why they must start looking for new resources to prevent such catastrophies from occuring. If oil is such a big issue how come they are still selling it at a price that people are will to pay for if it is such a scarce resource. I mean bottled water costs more than gas and its not even a scarce resource. Given the price is due to marketing and whatnot but still.I guess I just have a little bit more faith in corporations and governments to maintain society.
About the hydrogen thing, I wasn't saying it is a energy source itself I was mearly stating how hydrogen can be very explosive. Oh ya and there is practically no elemental hydrogen floating around since it is a diatomic element and requires 2 atoms to occur in nature. Hydrogen gas can be readily gained without very much work as well. Simply using one of the most readily abundant substances on the earth, water, we can get hydrogen gas. All you have to do is combine pretty much any 1A metal from the periodic table with water and you get an explosive reaction which is caused by hydrogen gas being released and the heat of the reaction igniting it. There may not be any practical methods to gain and use hydrogen commercially worldwide right now but eventually there could be. Since it is very explosive it's implementation must be considered carefully.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2665872 -

If I was going to worry about something, I would worry about how all the jobs are getting sent off to foreign and third world countries where they can pay people a fraction of what they would have to pay someone in North America. This isn't just restricted to factory jobs anymore either. Now they can get highly skilled workers for damn cheap like having someone in India with a masters degree in engineering answering phone calls routed from a company thousands of miles away to talk to some schmuck about some product he can't figure out how to work. When they could get someone locally with no education to do it, but this would cost the company more money so hence the job gets sent out. This is what worries me, not bombings, famines or natural resources drying up; getting replaced is what worries me. There are plenty of resources for energy, it's just a matter of converting over to them, you can't just transform an entire fossil fuel consuming society over to another energy source overnight this would put lots of people out of business and jobs, but it would also cause a creation for jobs. This is why it must be a slow process and it is why I have the uttermost faith in society to survive. This is what differentiates us from animals we have the ability to manipulate our environment to stay alive, we have intelligence and with that intelligence I believe we can do anything needed to preserve our lifestyle.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2665882 -

yeah i've heard that about hydrogen. wind is a great power source as well- there are a ton of ethical, clean and healthy ways to get energy. i don't think oil is as scarce as they would like us to think. it is VERY dirty to burn though, and it is an important part of the Earth- like blood- it helps to keep the plates lubricated. We shouldn't be farming it and burning it as fuel just because we can make tons of money doing it. And water IS becoming a scarce resource. It is being polluted at a very scary rate. Namaste to you.


--------------------
Once in awhile you can get shown the light

In the strangest of places if you look at it right...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2665907 -

relativexistance said:
If I was going to worry about something, I would worry about how all the jobs are getting sent off to foreign and third world countries where they can pay people a fraction of what they would have to pay someone in North America. This isn't just restricted to factory jobs anymore either. Now they can get highly skilled workers for damn cheap like having someone in India with a masters degree in engineering answering phone calls routed from a company thousands of miles away to talk to some schmuck about some product he can't figure out how to work. When they could get someone locally with no education to do it, but this would cost the company more money so hence the job gets sent out. This is what worries me, not bombings, famines or natural resources drying up; getting replaced is what worries me.


I totally agree with you- that is why i worked so hard on the Kucinich campaign.

Quote:
This is what differentiates us from animals we have the ability to manipulate our environment to stay alive, we have intelligence and with that intelligence I believe we can do anything needed to preserve our lifestyle.


Good attitude. I wish i could feel that way more often. I have been having a hard time putting my faith in our race. I look around and see ppl putting their energy into (imo)totally worthless shit like people magazine, Britney spears concerts and tv. To me, that is just not intelligent.


--------------------
Once in awhile you can get shown the light

In the strangest of places if you look at it right...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2665922 -

Phishgrrl the reason I say I can trust corp. is exactly for their greed. I can trust them to be greedy filthy machines that strive for self-gain. This strive for success is the reason I feel they will help us maintain a technologically advanced world. I know they want money and this is why they will preserve culture because without preserving it there is no money to be gained. One of the very important laws of economics deals with a party providing a product to a population. However to succeed you can never provide a product that will eventually eliminate the market for said product. You must provide a product that will always have a market otherwise you are being self distructive. This market is energy and there is an abundant amount of energy to be harnessed, it exists in everything. Even our own matter is mearly condensed energy. This is why I can trust corporations, I can trust them to be greedy and I can trust them to strive to survive. However their greed can be worrisome to me in that such few gain such wealth. The wealth distribution seems to be spreading out more and more and I think that we could have problems with the seperation of classes.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2665949 -

Well I don't trust them for that same reason, and that is why capitalism is a self-annhialating <sp!> giant, one that will take a big part of the human race as well as plenty of other species down with it. There are no endless resources for us to exploit. If everyone in the world lived like we do in the US, the world would not last long.

On that note, the mushroom Gods told Terence McKenna that the solution would be for women to take control and refuse to produce more than one offspring each...sounds like a good idea to me!


--------------------
Once in awhile you can get shown the light

In the strangest of places if you look at it right...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2665999 -

Phishgrrl said:
I look around and see ppl putting their energy into (imo)totally worthless shit like people magazine, Britney spears concerts and tv. To me, that is just not intelligent.


I agree with you it seems as if we pollute our society with petty shit and we can't be bothered with things that are crucial to the advancement of our world. It just seems to me that the media has been brainwashing us to believe that what is important are the things that aren't really. They make it seem as if the luxeries in life are the necessities however this is grossly inaccurate. They brainwash into thinking we need their product but in reality we don't need it. Such things as how entertainment people are so highly regarded in society now. Not to put them down or anything, but it's as if they get treated like gods and the average person like you or me is shit in comparison. Like how professional athletes get millions of dollars a year to play a game!!! I mean you don't see the cancer reseachers getting 10 million a year with all kinds of fame and fortune. The reason these people gain so much is because money is to be made off of them. I mean look at back in the middle ages at a comparioson of what an actor would be, an actor then would be a jester and if the jester wasn't good he had all kinds of trash thrown at him or he could be killed. They weren't so highly regarded in society since all they did was provide entertainment which was low on the food chain then. Now our lifes are so simple to survive we don't appreciate the things that keep our world ticking. We take for granted what is truely a necessity and our views get distorted by all the bullshit we are fed through various mediums such as magazine, radio, televison.

Hhmm I can't really remember what I was trying to get at here but I just had to go on a rant sorry if its long and incessant I just had to get some things off my mind.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phishgrrl]
    #2666058 -

Phishgrrl said:
Well I don't trust them for that same reason, and that is why capitalism is a self-annhialating




Phishgrrl said:
If everyone in the world lived like we do in the US, the world would not last long.



I agree something must be done to change the way the world is. I feel it is functional now, however it can't last like it is forever. I don't feel something bad will come of it though. I think people will eventually realize pretty much at once how we must change and I think it will occur over an extended amount of time. I believe that eventually the world will come to a point where we can all live the same. Well at least I hope it comes to that. I think that as we become more educated abroad and more advanced that life will be easily sustained throughout the world. Eventually greed will die down, I think there is a limit as to how much one group can gain from a society before that society will transform into an entirely different world. I still rely on one day the whole world unites intstead of having these imaginary boundaries of power and division. I don't understand why we must constantly try and divide ourselves with one another, we are basically all the same, we all function the same for that matter in that we all need oxygen food water and we can talk and communicate with one another. I think what we need is to unite for some greater world goal such as in a global space station where everyone can use it not just the privileged few.

However if we can't manage to set aside our differences then we are doomed, but I think that we should be able to when we forget all our past quarrels.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: relativexistance]
    #2666161 -

Quote:

I think people will eventually realize pretty much at once how we must change and I think it will occur over an extended amount of time. I believe that eventually the world will come to a point where we can all live the same.



let's hope- but at what cost?

Quote:
I think that as we become more educated abroad and more advanced that life will be easily sustained throughout the world.



how much more educated do we need to get? It seems that there are plenty of educated people- we know we are doomed if we keep it up yet we keep doing it because our minds are numbed by tv and all the other shit we've been talking about. We are AFRAID to face reality because it is so big! So we take the nation's drugs of choice: mass media, anti-depressants, caffiene <<to keep us going (and yes i loves me coffe and tea!)and alcohol to numb us and make us feel smart and cool....and junkfood to make us sick and thus distract us from reality even further...the GOOD drugs, the ones that open our minds and hearts, shrink our egos- the GOOD drugs that grow from the good Earth are banned- because they would have us become non-consumers, non-greedy and peaceful- just what your beloved corporations DON'T want us to be- cause then we will quit buying their cheap plastic crap. And their cheap plastic crappy ideas and distractions. Weapons of Mass Distraction! UGH! Do you have a solution? I do- LOVE---just keep the love comin' and spread it around! But shit- it's hard to keep that mindset....anyway, nice talking with you- I'm going to bed! Goodnight!




--------------------
Once in awhile you can get shown the light

In the strangest of places if you look at it right...

Edited by Phishgrrl (05/11/04 11:35 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2667919 -

yes...let's do something...but I think our govt has already planned out was is gonna happen.  their idea or version of it anyway. 

the people should start to wake up and overthrow this govt.  itr is our duty as civilians when we see too much control (control our forefathers never intended our govt to have) to annihilate this regime, and instill a new one. 

but the contro lover ideas has made too many of us passive and so ideas like mine are considered radical.  :rolleyes:

not to mention the govt has it's own gang (the police), it's own way of conveying and convincing us of their ideas (the media), and has complete control over how much FAKE money gets printed.  oh..and then WE have to work for it!  hey!  you live here, so pay or you can't have shelter pffffffffffffffffffft

sorry, just a radical speaking here.

ok..so we can bomb....um...yeah...let's do that.  lets see what happens when everone else decides to unleash their firepower.  but really looking back, that really hasn't helped.  look at iraq, look what happened when we overthrew the shah of iran.  hey btw WE SOLD IRAQ WEAPONS!!!!!

we bombed hiroshima. 

our kind has nearly destroyed the native americans.

we have destroyed soo myuch...so yeah we can bomb..but then what? situation will still be bad.

pulling out will never happen so....what now?


--------------------
Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2669471 -

We can argue till the cows come home about whether it was a good idea or a bad idea to go to war.

But I don't see how anyone can argue against the fact that once in a war, the best thing to do is to win it. It's all well and good to take extra care not to hit civilians, to avoid firing on mosques if possible, to try to limit bomb damage to a very specific pinpointed target, etc. But it's possible to go too far in the other direction. This has been happening far too often of late.

What makes it worse is that the enemy in this case has no respect for restraint, they respect raw force and nothing else.

The politicians have somehow convinced themselves that by overexercising restraint they will somehow look better in the eyes of the world. This is never gonna happen. Never. So take off the kid gloves, stop assing around, and get the job done.

pinky


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2671550 -

I stand in solidarity with the Iraqi insurgents, they are incredible people, fighting the strongest army on the planet with whatever they can scrounge together, and making a damn good show of it! America cannot control them, I find it inspiring. If these people can fight that hard and that well, look at the potential for the rest of the world. Regular people have so much more power than we think.

I don't think we're fucked, we are if we deny our own strength. If we, in every moment of our lives, recognize and utilize our own abilities to revolt, the earth indeed can be reclaimed.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phred]
    #2671808 -

The politicians have somehow convinced themselves that by overexercising restraint they will somehow look better in the eyes of the world. This is never gonna happen. Never. So take off the kid gloves, stop assing around, and get the job done.

This is the terrible thing about war and how it brings out the worst in people. This unwise war on Iraq is unwinnable and has a  negative  impact on the war on terror because we are creating terrorists faster than we can kill them! Nothing short of genocide will be the final solution for this unwise, unwinnable, open-ended war. And that is the type of thinking that this type of war inevitably leads you into.

I defy anyone to  justify this war on spiritual grounds. This war is morally, spiritually, and logistically bankrupt. Our justifications for it have shifted more often than the desert sands. We attacked a country that did not attack us. We are operating in opposition to time-tested spiritual laws and have lost any moral high ground with this sickening prisoner abuse scandal. Except for raw power, the moral high ground was all we had going for us! Might does not make right. Now we are sinking ever lower to the level of those we are fighting,  we are becoming what we hate! (Much like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). What we are seeing now could have easily been forseen with leadership grounded in spiritual, not religous, wisdom.

Such is war.  :thumbdown:


--------------------
I am what Willis was talkin' bout.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phred]
    #2672896 -

Quote:
pinksharkmark said:
But I don't see how anyone can argue against the fact that once in a war, the best thing to do is to win it.


Would this be the logic you would have used in support of Hitler's war?  I agree that if your country is in danger of being over run that the best thing you can do is win the war.  However, when your country was not threatened, when the enemy has no capabilities of inflicting harm on your soil and you are invading that country, it is never too late to do what is right, strategically and morally.

Anyone, ANYONE who thinks that the U.S. actions in Iraq will lower the chances of terrorism is a fool.  With one exception, the U.S. could expand it's actions and pursue a policy of genocide.  Genocide, the wiping from the face of the earth of the Muslims and Arabic people is the closest we can come to a sure bet.

Why do I say this?  Because terrorism is a tactic of the politically and militarilly impotent, it is the only 'hope' of the hopeless.  The more hopeless we make a situation, the less political autonomy people have, the more they will be driven to desperate acts.

Do not assume that because I say these things that I think that those who would do harm to the innocent should not be stopped or punished (if they did not kill themselves in the process), this is a question of tactics.  However, strategically there is the long term question of where and how to end the cycle of violence.  The current course of action of the U.S. will not lead us to the end of violence and terrorism, but will only perpetuate it and lead to an escalation to the point where a people may be willing to embrace 'the final solution,' as has already been suggested in this forum as well as receiving positive support from others who post in the P, A & L forum.

** edit **  :thumbup: Kudos to Jellric for his post.  Sorry if I re-hashed some some of his points, but it doesn't hurt to reiterate certain things.


--------------------
To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Jellric]
    #2673004 -

"We attacked a country that did not attack us. We are operating in opposition to time-tested spiritual laws and have lost any moral high ground with this sickening prisoner abuse scandal. Except for raw power, the moral high ground was all we had going for us! Might does not make right. Now we are sinking ever lower to the level of those we are fighting, we are becoming what we hate! (Much like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). What we are seeing now could have easily been forseen with leadership grounded in spiritual, not religous, wisdom. "

:thumbup:


--------------------
Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Jellric]
    #2685272 -

Jellric writes:

This unwise war on Iraq is unwinnable and has a negative impact on the war on terror because we are creating terrorists faster than we can kill them!

Once again -- we can argue all day about whether or not it was correct to depose Hussein by force. I myself remain unconvinced it was the right thing to do at the time it was done by the people who did it. But there is absolutely no point whatsoever in arguing "woulda shoulda coulda" at this point.

The fact is, Iraq's Ba'athist government was deposed by force, and at present Iraq is occupied until a new Iraqi government can get on its feet enough to provide some stability for the Iraqis. The current form of government in Iraq at the moment, imperfect as it is, beats just grabbing Hussein and pulling out to leave the Iraqis in anarchy.

The ones who are shooting at occupation troops as well as bombing police stations, recruits for the Iraqi army, and random individuals, are not interested in any form of government for Iraqis short of an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy -- and each group has its own idea of who should head that theocracy. You will note as well that polls from Iraq show the most favored form of government by Iraqis is the multi-party constitutional form of government Western countries employ. Waaaaaaay down on the list is an Islamic theocracy similar to Iran. Hell, even the Shi'ites don't want that. The thing is, the ones who want theocracy want it bad -- so bad they are willing and even eager to kill their fellow Muslims with no compunction. The ones who favor democratic-style government are the ones relying on the occupation forces to keep order. That's not to say they should be totally reliant at this stage of the game, of course, but again we're looking at reality on the ground here, not some kind of "woulda shoulda coulda". I realize a supporter of reality like myself gets short shrift in this forum, but facts are facts.

As for the war being "unwinnable", that's nonsense. Granted, it is certainly going to be unwinnable if the occupation troops keep backing down every time Robert Fisk writes a whiny column in the Guardian, but there is no military reason to even remotely suggest the war is unwinnable. Quite the reverse.

Nothing short of genocide will be the final solution for this unwise, unwinnable, open-ended war. And that is the type of thinking that this type of war inevitably leads you into.

Talk to the Iraqi Kurds about "genocide", why don't you? I'm sure their views on the subject differ from yours.

If you think going to war was a bad idea, fine. I'm not going to oppose you strongly on this. But if you say that the war was such a bad idea that the coalition forces should all pack up and leave Iraq next week, then in my opinion you haven't thought things through all the way.

We are operating in opposition to time-tested spiritual laws and have lost any moral high ground with this sickening prisoner abuse scandal.

Actually, quite the reverse. In Western societies, those who act as those sickazoids in the pictures did are prosecuted at trial. In Ba'athist Iraq and all the neighboring Arab states, those who act that way are promoted. I would say that shows just who has the moral high ground.

Prison guards in any society are not generally the finest examples a society produces. Read any of the prison reform advocate groups info sites and you'll see things as bad or worse from prisons all over the world. Read about the way IRA prisoners were treated at Long Kesh, for example. Read also about the "Stanford Prison Experiment" sometime.

Add to that the fact (and it is a fact) that the prisoners in Abu Ghraib aren't your run-of-the-mill purse-snatchers and bank robbers. The abuses took place in the part of the prison that Military Intelligence was responsible for. These guys were picked up in raids on groups firing on troops and laying booby trops etc. Does this excuse it? Nope. That's why Bush apologized to the world and why the dopes who did this are in a heap of trouble.

pinky


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: My Thought Of The Day - May 11th, 2004 - "We're all f*cked!" [Re: Phred]
    #2685468 -

It was several days ago that I made the post you are responding to. I thought at the time (like most people) that the abuse scandal would have more impact than it did in Iraq. As it turns out, the outrage is much less over there because they expected this sort of treatment; They are not surprised. Meet the New Boss (Same as the Old Boss).

Given that this is S&P and not PAL, I probably should restrain myself from getting too much into the details of this. Actually there is not much we disagree on so it is not that difficult.

I don't think we should pack it in and leave a mess. But I HATE that we started this uneccesary war. I will not be voting for President Bush now because I see no signs he is aware he made a terrible mistake. He is too eager to go to war and has managed to accomplish in three short years what decades of struggle against fascism and communism failed to do- divide us from our allies and unite the world against us. Way to go, Bush!

Read also about the "Stanford Prison Experiment" sometime.

Thanks, but I am the one who posted the link to that experiment in PAL.  :wink:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

I researched it several years ago and I encourage everyone to give it a look in light of the recent abuses. When you throw untrained guards into a prison you shouldn't be surprised when these type of abuses occur.  The question I have is were those people injected into the prison deliberately, knowing this type of thing would happen? That would provide nice cover and deniability for the interregators. (Deniablility is very important in politics). We shall see.

Here's the link to the 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment. If anyone wants to know what leads everyday people to do these terrible things you should give this a look. It sheds a lot of light into the dark places that exist in all of us:

http://www.prisonexp.org/slide-2.htm


--------------------
I am what Willis was talkin' bout.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Wacky website predicts next Terrorist Attack
( 1 2 all )		 Swami 4,375 32 04/23/04 08:44 PM
by Swami
* Do Anti-Abortion Terrorists....
( 1 2 all )		 fireworks_godS 1,869 24 06/05/09 11:54 AM
by Poid
* Why do freedom fighters become terrorists? OrgoneConclusion 1,246 11 08/24/10 06:31 PM
by OrgoneConclusion
* idealists and terrorists atomikfunksoldier 785 4 07/08/03 11:39 AM
by johnnyfive
* 2004 Grav 643 9 01/01/04 05:03 PM
by Strumpling
* Pirates, terrorists, and gangsters Cracka_X 979 16 06/22/07 04:01 PM
by PhanTomCat
* Birth of an American Terrorist HagbardCeline 1,011 13 09/18/03 02:59 PM
by MisterKite
* Islam, religion of peace?
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )		 Anonymous 8,484 83 04/06/03 04:41 PM
by Anonymous

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
1,879 topic views. 0 members, 240 guests and 18 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.