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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Stable Genius]
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I’ve had two people tell me they think sanders is too left wing in the past week. These are by no means conservatives at all and I have no doubt they would vote for him against trump in a heart beat, but there are plenty of democratic primary voters who don’t like sanders for that reason. The shroomery is a bubble.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: koods]
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Yep. Labor found out the hard way, the public don't like radical ideas, even if they are good ones.

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
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My Father and Mother in law keep saying he's too far to the left, that they think Biden is a better choice. Then they start bitching about their $1800 a month health insurance and admit Bernie has the better platform.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Stable Genius] * 4
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Stable Genius said:
Yep. Labor found out the hard way, the public don't like radical ideas, even if they are good ones.


People voted against Labour because they didnt like the leadership, probably because the media smeared him as an antisemite. If you look at the exit polls there were plenty of people who liked the policies.

Bernie's policy platform is all favored by a majority of US voters. Not just Democrats, voters in general. But of course the media and party establishment figures will still fearmonger about the mythical " moderate voter" who will be turned off by that platform, simply because they dont want to lose their strangehold on the party or see their own taxes go up.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
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Chris Matthews damn near broke down in tears this morning crying about how Bernie is McGovern. That shit was 50 years ago my god these morons are still terrified of Richard Nixon. But like I said, they dont really think Bernie is McGovern, they just need an historical example they can point to and say "see? if you try to give people healthcare or decent wages youre just ushering in a new wave of conservatism." As if the shitty moderate losers (Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Clinton) havent already done that.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: koods] * 4
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koods said:
I’ve had two people tell me they think sanders is too left wing in the past week. These are by no means conservatives at all and I have no doubt they would vote for him against trump in a heart beat, but there are plenty of democratic primary voters who don’t like sanders for that reason. The shroomery is a bubble.



The shroomery is a bubble? lol

Most of Bernie's positions poll very well -> Medicare for all, free public college, environmental protections, etc. Bernie is literally speaking to the heart of the people, which is why he polls better than any other candidate against Trump, and he is currently winning.

You live in a bubble.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
Chris Matthews damn near broke down in tears this morning crying about how Bernie is McGovern. That shit was 50 years ago my god these morons are still terrified of Richard Nixon. But like I said, they dont really think Bernie is McGovern, they just need an historical example they can point to and say "see? if you try to give people healthcare or decent wages youre just ushering in a new wave of conservatism." As if the shitty moderate losers (Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Clinton) havent already done that.


An historical? Goddamnit Ecstatic... It's 'A Historical', unless you're a pompous British asshole. Just had to set that straight.

I want to see this clip of Chris Matthews! I'm starting to think he's getting a bit soft in the head. Maybe he should take a break.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
koods said:
I’ve had two people tell me they think sanders is too left wing in the past week. These are by no means conservatives at all and I have no doubt they would vote for him against trump in a heart beat, but there are plenty of democratic primary voters who don’t like sanders for that reason. The shroomery is a bubble.



The shroomery is a bubble? lol

Most of Bernie's positions poll very well -> Medicare for all, free public college, environmental protections, etc. Bernie is literally speaking to the heart of the people, which is why he polls better than any other candidate against Trump, and he is currently winning.

You live in a bubble.


I had Fox on recently and their strategy is to blast Bernie and pump Bloomberg.  :rofl2:

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
I had Fox on recently and their strategy is to blast Bernie and pump Bloomberg.  :rofl2:


The MSM dost protest too much!

As they did with at least one current POTUS I know of.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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I'm predicting that Bernie is going to do too well to get blocked by the DNC. What kind of support he gets from Democrats if he reaches the Presidency is another question.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Whether they do or not, the conspiracies will be mongered


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Me being on the fence with Bern, I have a question for the full fledge supporters/people that consider themselves donkeys: what will you do when/if Bern doesnt get the nod? :

1. Leave the party?
2. Vote Trump as a fuck you?
3. Plug your nose and vote for the.     
  Dem nominee?
4. Other quip.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: koods] * 3
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koods said:
Whether they do or not, the conspiracies will be mongered


If you're suggesting that people are fabricating the concerted effort to conspire against Bernie Sanders, you're living on a different fucking planet.

It has been demonstrated innumerable times. The fact that we always point it out, and you're sick of hearing it, doesn't mean that it isn't the case. Our last primary was rigged (A verifiable fact), and now Donald Trump is president. You and yours can keep plugging your ears, and covering your eyes, but I'm keeping my feet firmly planted on the ground, and calling it as it is.

Your attitude is the reason we have that piece of shit billionaire in the white house.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
koods said:
I’ve had two people tell me they think sanders is too left wing in the past week. These are by no means conservatives at all and I have no doubt they would vote for him against trump in a heart beat, but there are plenty of democratic primary voters who don’t like sanders for that reason. The shroomery is a bubble.



The shroomery is a bubble? lol

Most of Bernie's positions poll very well -> Medicare for all, free public college, environmental protections, etc. Bernie is literally speaking to the heart of the people, which is why he polls better than any other candidate against Trump, and he is currently winning.

You live in a bubble.



Everybody wants free stuff. But when you tell them how much it's going to cost, they aren't so eager.

The Democrats know that he will get crushed in a general election, because as soon as people learn enough about his plans, they won't like them.

Socialism doesn't work. Hasn't worked. Ever. Not once.

It's good at causing misery and death though. Every single time.

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
Me being on the fence with Bern, I have a question for the full fledge supporters/people that consider themselves donkeys: what will you do when/if Bern doesnt get the nod? :

1. Leave the party?
2. Vote Trump as a fuck you?
3. Plug your nose and vote for the.     
  Dem nominee?
4. Other quip.


It depends. If Bernie is fucked out of the nomination, I may vote for Trump, but probably not. I probably just won't vote. I'm not a Democrat. I wouldn't align myself with those mealy mouthed pieces of shit, unless they give me a candidate I can back. That's the long and short of it.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
Me being on the fence with Bern, I have a question for the full fledge supporters/people that consider themselves donkeys: what will you do when/if Bern doesnt get the nod? :

1. Leave the party?
2. Vote Trump as a fuck you?
3. Plug your nose and vote for the.     
  Dem nominee?
4. Other quip.


If I can’t vote FOR Bernie, I’ll still vote AGAINST trump 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SavoryGravy] * 3
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SavoryGravy said:
Everybody wants free stuff. But when you tell them how much it's going to cost, they aren't so eager.

The Democrats know that he will get crushed in a general election, because as soon as people learn enough about his plans, they won't like them.

Socialism doesn't work. Hasn't worked. Ever. Not once.

It's good at causing misery and death though. Every single time.


Do you think any regular here on the political subforum hasn't heard that old tired line?

Publicly funded healthcare would cost Americans LESS money. Publicly funded college would cost Americans LESS money. That is to say tuition costs would be lower, and healthcare costs would be lower.

The whole developed world has what we're fighting for. They are not all wrong.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: feldman114] * 1
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feldman114 said:
SirTripAlot said:
Me being on the fence with Bern, I have a question for the full fledge supporters/people that consider themselves donkeys: what will you do when/if Bern doesnt get the nod? :

1. Leave the party?
2. Vote Trump as a fuck you?
3. Plug your nose and vote for the.     
  Dem nominee?
4. Other quip.


If I can’t vote FOR Bernie, I’ll still vote AGAINST trump 🤷🏻‍♂️


I won't. I don't have time for that shit.

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SavoryGravy]
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SavoryGravy said:
Bigbadwooof said:
koods said:
I’ve had two people tell me they think sanders is too left wing in the past week. These are by no means conservatives at all and I have no doubt they would vote for him against trump in a heart beat, but there are plenty of democratic primary voters who don’t like sanders for that reason. The shroomery is a bubble.



The shroomery is a bubble? lol

Most of Bernie's positions poll very well -> Medicare for all, free public college, environmental protections, etc. Bernie is literally speaking to the heart of the people, which is why he polls better than any other candidate against Trump, and he is currently winning.

You live in a bubble.



Everybody wants free stuff. But when you tell them how much it's going to cost, they aren't so eager.

The Democrats know that he will get crushed in a general election, because as soon as people learn enough about his plans, they won't like them.

Socialism doesn't work. Hasn't worked. Ever. Not once.

It's good at causing misery and death though. Every single time.


Google Auroville. (The only place where true socialism ever existed, even though they don’t call it that)

Also, Google Bernie’s policies and the definition of socialism vs communism while you’re at it.

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: feldman114]
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I'd like to see Bernie got the nomination, it could be taxed and redistributed to others like Warren, Klobuchar and Buttigieg

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