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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: psilocybiNZL]
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I am hoping with the stormy weather we've been having will pop a few more mushies up!

That is so dumb that most people don't respect the spot and rip out roots etc

Looking to make my own outdoors patch, I have a perfect spot that is always damp and wet in the back yard... I would need to fertilise it with some mycelium and spores tho yeah!?

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Physkx]
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Physkx said:


As far as I understood it most if not all psiloycbe genus mushrooms in NZ fall under the cyanascens complex? As in they all evolved from them the same way different dogs did from wolves? I am unsure what species these are, but I'm confident on the psilocybe genus. Unfortunately my phone camera is too crap for good photos :frown:


Your pictures are garbage however clear enough to me, none of those are psilocybes. One thing is for sure. Your a veritable moron for eating two of them before any kind of trusted ID. Two of the wrong mushrooms could be enough to give you the permanent vapours ?

And shut the fuck up about mushroom ‘complexes’ when your talking to Inski  :facepalm3:  :facepalm3:

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: antichode]
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Also CumCakes up there can STFU too. No one cares about your fantasies. What you should have done was find some Psilocybes and post some pictures. That’s all we want. The dirty pictures

You can keep your airy wet brain masturbations to your self

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: antichode]
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Hey bro settle down there mate, just coz you're having a bad day doesnt mean I cant express my ideas
This is a forum for people who all enjoy the same thing, so quit being a downy

also attached....

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: antichode] * 1
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antichode said:
Also CumCakes up there can STFU too. No one cares about your fantasies. What you should have done was find some Psilocybes and post some pictures. That’s all we want. The dirty pictures

You can keep your airy wet brain masturbations to your self


Not sure thats the best way to treat new blood dude? :shrug:

Yep the season is in its death throws. It will come back again though!

@camcakes, try the official woodlovers thread for how to grow them pizza mush. . .


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: CamCakes]
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CamCakes said:
I am hoping with the stormy weather we've been having will pop a few more mushies up!

That is so dumb that most people don't respect the spot and rip out roots etc

Looking to make my own outdoors patch, I have a perfect spot that is always damp and wet in the back yard... I would need to fertilise it with some mycelium and spores tho yeah!?


Dunedinite started a New Zealand cultivation thread (check our signatures), you will get all the answers and where to buy equipment and the price in there. But yes you do need spores or mycellium. Welcome to the shroomery New Zealand Division.


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: psilocybiNZL]
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Your right I apologise for snapping CamCakes. There’s just so many posts in this thread with people letting everyone know what they’re going to do. I’m gonna get a patch going. I’m going out when the rain starts). I’m hoping to find my first mushrooms. this thread Isn’t designed to hear about your vagrant daily desires. Don’t misconstrue my blunt welcome wagon for a bad mood. I just want the pictures. However god awful the pizza looks  :lol:

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: antichode]
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Hey, trippy - this monster's got my initial on top. I think they like me!

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: masterxenn]
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another view. quite a large specimen. man there were lots of ridiculously large ones out there yesterday.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: masterxenn]
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Todays last spurt. . .


Missed a few that were too far gone, shouldn’t have wriiten the patch off yet . . .

The biggy is 70mm across. . . Nuttin on the master though! Awesome finds. . .


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Bobbit]
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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: antichode]
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They were psilocybes.. absolutely no question. Spore tests matched psilocybe subaeruginosa. I ate over 50 of them on different occasions and each time the effect was strong. The photos were bad and they were damaged somehow. While I respect inskis opinion I do not respect yours. I am an amatuer mycologist myself and have been collecting for years so for me to say I am sure about a genus, then I am sure. Regarding your inability to believe that all introduced psilocybe species in NZ can be traced to the cyanascens complex, I would refer you to this post by Jerry Cooper over at iNaturalist;

"Sequence data indicate we have at least three if not four species in the P. cyanescens complex. I think the P. cyanescens complex needs more work, globally. I believe the current sampling of gene loci (ITS, LSU, EF-a) and key morphological characters do not adequately resolve the differently named entities within the clade. I also believe there are closely related real ‘species’ involved (rather than over-splitting of a single broad species) because the secotioid P. weraroa sits within the group and is clearly a morphologically different species to say, P. cyanescens. The evidence suggests a recent divergence of P. weraroa, indicating how simple the gene switch must be from open mushroom to closed pouch.  Some species do seem to have been historically over lumped. Chang et al, 1992 lumped P. tasmaniana, P. australiana and P. eucalypta into P. subaeruginosa, but the equivalence of dung inhabiting and wood inhabiting species does not have much support, and I agree with other observers on this point. I also need more convincing that the current concept of P. subaeruginosa is the same as Cleland’s original concept. It might be correct, or it might not. Cleland did not designate a type for this species but lists some collections. The original description says it occurs in grass with one collection on dung. Guzman & Watling studied Cleland’s material, including 13251, which they called the ‘type’. That specimen is now missing. A formal lectotype AD 5603 (=Cleland 13256) from Belair National Park Australia has since been designated, but without published details of habitat, substrate and morphology of this critical collection. Likewise at least some reported collections of ‘Psilocybe tasmaniana’ on wood chips in NZ are not likely to be Roy Watling’s Australian species on dung “cap to 2cm and without umbo or papilla”, and probably represent another larger species in the cyanescens complex. Posted images of a smaller species in NZ plant pots and also called P. tasmaniana are perhaps closer to Watling’s species.  An undeposited sequence of Australian P. tasmaniana falls within a different clade to the cyanescens group.  All the wood chip species fall out at my couplet 6’. Species differentiation based on spore size, cheilocystidia length and cap morphology (used in some keys) does not work for me. If somebody can give me a key that works for all the named species in the P. cyanescens group I would be happy to test it. I think more sequence sampling of the dung, soil and wood species in southern Australia and Tasmania, and epitypification against sequenced and well described material is needed to resolve the use of several names of closely related species."

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Physkx]
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What about P.semilanceata, P.aucklandii? P.angulospora

Tasmaniana, subaeruginosa and wereroa will jump to cardboard and I assume makarore?

Aucklandii most certainly don't seem interested in cardboard. . . Nor angulospora. . .


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Bobbit]
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P.angulospora and P.makarore are the same or if not then very recently have they diverged

P.semilanceata I do not understand enough of the history in NZ to have an opinion, although I would not place it under the cyanascens complex and would look to it more as a sister species than a child variant

P.aucklandi are native to NZ, though I believe they probably evolved from introduced P.semilanceata also, as there is no record of either of them before the colonisation of New Zealand

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Physkx]
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Physkx said:
P.angulospora and P.makarore are the same or if not then very recently have they diverged

P.semilanceata I do not understand enough of the history in NZ to have an opinion, although I would not place it under the cyanascens complex and would look to it more as a sister species than a child variant

P.aucklandi are native to NZ, though I believe they probably evolved from introduced P.semilanceata also, as there is no record of either of them before the colonisation of New Zealand


Do you have pre colonisation records for the other species :lol:

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Physkx]
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Physkx said:
P.angulospora and P.makarore are the same or if not then very recently have they diverged

P.semilanceata I do not understand enough of the history in NZ to have an opinion, although I would not place it under the cyanascens complex and would look to it more as a sister species than a child variant

P.aucklandi are native to NZ, though I believe they probably evolved from introduced P.semilanceata also, as there is no record of either of them before the colonisation of New Zealand


oh true brudda
:themoreyouknow: :lol:


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: chipsandwich]
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Of course not, there are no records whatsoever of the tribes ever using or finding Psilocybe species, even though they certainly used and had good knowledge of other types - http://www.dl.begellhouse.com/journals/708ae68d64b17c52,0d0f121956dd501b,183f47427305837d.html - which further strengthens my argument of the possibility that all NZ species originally came from introduced P.Cyanescens

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: Physkx]
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Lol @ aucklandii evolved from P.semilanceata.

Where did you get that idea bucko?


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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: xthrx]
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I meant P.subaureginosa, which in turn came from P.Cyanescens. Apologies for the confusion, and while I don't profess to know exactly how some species are related to others I can see the signs of a likely relationship and possible divergences of species in the past. I may not be a professional mycologist but I know my genetics. If you don't believe all these psilocybe species ALL came from one mother mushroom and have slowly spread out and adapted to their individual environments you are foolish. It's like saying whites blacks asians mexicans and australians and yourself all evolved individually of each other and that we cannot ALL be traced back to mother Africa, which we can

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Re: THE OFFICIAL NEW ZEALAND PSILOCYBIN MUSHROOM THREAD 2019!!!! [Re: xthrx]
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Aren't P.aucklandii near genetically identical to zapotecorum?

I still have a sneaky suspicion that fungi act differently genetically to animals. . . I reckon they are cleverer and employ more horizontal/lateral inheritance. . .

I found a couple of aucklandii with augulospora tits on this year. They didn't happen 25 years ago if my aging, drug addled recall minds correctly. . .


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