HerbalSteve said:

What is it with people behind a keyboard that makes them think it's fine to be a cock? There is literally zero need for half the vitriol that flies round here. Who'd have thought a community revolving around these powerful tools of betterment would take any opportunity to slam their fellow man....

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If you think I’m being a cock for what I just typed scroll throughout the rest of the thread. What I typed was pretty reasonable

It’s kind of ridiculous when people think it’s not possible for them to have close eyed dmt esque experiences on an orally active form of dmt and go around telling other people “nah not what mushrooms are you shouldn’t be expecting that”

The lurker said:

HerbalSteve said:

What is it with people behind a keyboard that makes them think it's fine to be a cock? There is literally zero need for half the vitriol that flies round here. Who'd have thought a community revolving around these powerful tools of betterment would take any opportunity to slam their fellow man....

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If you think I’m being a cock for what I just typed scroll throughout the rest of the thread. What I typed was pretty reasonable

It’s kind of ridiculous when people think it’s not possible for them to have close eyed dmt esque experiences on an orally active form of dmt and go around telling other people “nah not what mushrooms are you shouldn’t be expecting that”

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HerbalSteve said:

The lurker said:

HerbalSteve said:

What is it with people behind a keyboard that makes them think it's fine to be a cock? There is literally zero need for half the vitriol that flies round here. Who'd have thought a community revolving around these powerful tools of betterment would take any opportunity to slam their fellow man....

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If you think I’m being a cock for what I just typed scroll throughout the rest of the thread. What I typed was pretty reasonable

It’s kind of ridiculous when people think it’s not possible for them to have close eyed dmt esque experiences on an orally active form of dmt and go around telling other people “nah not what mushrooms are you shouldn’t be expecting that”

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if you've taken it as directed at you, that's on you. Regardless the hostility is still unnecessary.

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Hmm.. you posted that right after my previous two responses not specifically talking about other responses  so yeah I guess it’s totally on me I’ve taken it as such

Vibe_Enthusiast said:

I've never tried DMT. But from what I've read over the course of a few years.. it most definitely has DMT potential at higher doses. I've read that mushrooms have more potential to be broken down and understood than DMT at higher doses. Not sure how much truth there is to that.. but I know DMT can be so much at once you can't grasp anything, and sometimes cannot take anything back with you.

I like to at least try to integrate little lessons and understandings of the higher conciousness. Slowly.. but surely. Think I'm doing a pretty good job at respecting them. And maybe from doing so, when i do dive in.. they may be extemely good to me. Or could be terrible lol. But regardless, I am prepping my brain for the plunge.. babysteps baby!!

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Asura said:

I didn't even know you could trip that hard until I got into higher doses. "Visuals" is not the best
term. Visions maybe? And usually it doesn't even matter if my eyes are open or closed, because it's all
the same at that point. Like my mind is completely on the outside of my body or something...or I don't
even have a body anymore and it's just mind.

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Yeah, regarding open/closed eyes - one time I reupped with maybe quite a bit too much PE and over the next hour or so while lying immobile on the bed the visuals/visions were nonstop, eyes open or closed, didn't matter.

Vibe_Enthusiast said:

PrimalSoup said:

OK, sounds good, but What are you expecting from CEVs? 

It's not like some sort of magical thing, and different people have varying visual wiring anyway...

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Not so much expecting anything. It just seems that when I close my eyes.. I get sensations of being in my own world but it's no different than if I were to close my eyes while sober.. just "darkness". Idk. It's not a huge deal to me.. I was just wondering if there could have been an explanation as to why. And it's more than likely, that I need to up to the dose.

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OK I'm going with that last then, report back what ya find out.  You want to see a "show" and the projector isn't turned on.

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Also, when you guys speak of the visuals on higher doses... how big is the dose were speaking? I know everyone is different.. but I've never taken more than 4g>Fresh cubes> Tea. (Fresh cubes always seem to perform such a more wild and vivid trip). Honestly thinking of growing a new batch just to make some fresh mushroom tea to store. All of mine are dry at the moment. But every time I tried a fresh picked batch of mushrooms... they were so much more superior than my dried ones.

Every. Single. Time.

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Well, for me with fresh fruits (made into citric acid tea, always), a big dose depends on the potency of the strain, but runs from 35-55 g.  Whatever it is, it will make the walls bleed Mayan glyphs and other things, audio hallucinations, time distortion, etc.  I've seen myself in the mirror as a cartoon.  

But once the trip kicks in fully and transition to hyperspace there's such a lot more to do then just appreciate the visual effects.  I am definitely not in my ordinary sober world anymore. 

Be aware that the dosage goes exponentially and so 5 g is considerably more than 4 g is.  If you double the dose you get like four times the effect, up to where you black out anyway.    So I like to stay just on this side of the black out dose as otherwise I don't get to remember the trip... 

That's why I test for potency at lower levels to gauge the proper amount.  And one test for potency is when CEVs start to appear after about 15 minutes or so with tea, that's the first real sign.

The lurker said:

PrimalSoup said:

Whatever, it was a question for the OP.

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And? It sounded like a super false perception of mushrooms to me so I wanted to respond

sorry I responded to your comment on a fucking forum......

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You were responding to me? That's hilarious, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all.  I've tripped so hard many times I thought I was never coming back, and the entities and spirit contact! - don't talk to me about entities. 

But it's all cool.

When you make tea from fresh with acid extraction you get all the psilocin as well.  And it goes to work really fast, on an empty stomach it starts to hit in 10-15 minutes max.  So visuals are one of the first things, but then it builds from there as the psilocybin starts to process into the bloodstream.  But at that point you're already into the trip so there's none of the anxiety thing that a lot of people get.