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OfflineMrDudeMan2222
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Microdosing plus antidepressants
    #26142807 - 08/19/19 12:24 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone microdose while still taking antidepressants (SSRI's)? What meds do you take? What do you microdose? Does one affect the other? Is microdosing still effective while in SSRI's? Any and all info would be great.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: MrDudeMan2222]
    #26142914 - 08/19/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Not a great idea.

SSRI's have a cross tolerance to actives and there could be aggression frustration issues.  SSRI's already make some people aggressive and violent.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26143116 - 08/19/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Not a great idea.

SSRI's have a cross tolerance to actives and there could be aggression frustration issues.  SSRI's already make some people aggressive and violent.



This thread says it all, Mate.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #26143706 - 08/19/19 10:29 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)



Edited by heatlessbbq (08/19/19 10:34 PM)


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #26144213 - 08/20/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I'm primarily referring to microdosing.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: MrDudeMan2222]
    #26144216 - 08/20/19 09:19 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ssri are pretty much a microdose.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26144218 - 08/20/19 09:19 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

It doesn't matter what dosage.

SSRIs mixed with psychedelic substances is dangerous. Period.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq] * 2
    #26144255 - 08/20/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

SSRIs don't make you trip longer or stronger, they dull the effects to almost non present.

Dosing while on a SSRI is a waste in most cases. No matter if you take a micro dose or a normal dose, you won't feel much.
With SSRIy you have to take abnormal high doses to get trippy, still dulled effects. -> A waste.

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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26145334 - 08/20/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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SSRIs don't make you trip longer or stronger, they dull the effects to almost non present.

Dosing while on a SSRI is a waste in most cases. No matter if you take a micro dose or a normal dose, you won't feel much.
With SSRIy you have to take abnormal high doses to get trippy, still dulled effects. -> A waste.




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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: nooneman]
    #26145368 - 08/20/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

What about body chemistry and behavior?


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #26145373 - 08/20/19 08:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

SSRIs are cross tolerant with psychedelics. You know how you can get tolerance from taking mushrooms or LSD too often? SSRIs cause the same tolerance because they affect the serotonin receptors.

Imagine how much tolerance a person would build if they took 100ug of LSD every day. After a few weeks, they wouldn't feel almost anything.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26145415 - 08/20/19 08:30 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

SSRIs with psychs are not dangerous. My wife takes an SSRI and we trip together from time to time. She has a reduced sensitivity to them, but they still work for her.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: nooneman]
    #26145474 - 08/20/19 09:36 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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SSRIs are cross tolerant with psychedelics. You know how you can get tolerance from taking mushrooms or LSD too often? SSRIs cause the same tolerance because they affect the serotonin receptors.

Imagine how much tolerance a person would build if they took 100ug of LSD every day. After a few weeks, they wouldn't feel almost anything.




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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #26145605 - 08/21/19 01:27 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Not all SSRi's are the same, many target different receptor groups, and not all people are the same chemically so results will vary.

Apart from the danger of wasting perfectly good drugs there's virtually no increased danger by mixing the two.

Studies on possible interactions have shown a negligible negative reaction possibility, so low it could be statistical anomaly.

Edit: Taking high doses of SSRIs and psychedelics could be an issue though. It's just in controlled doses that there is very little chance of any harm. The effects of the substances are after all not synergistic.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Northerner]
    #26145634 - 08/21/19 02:52 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

which ssri is your wife using?


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26145643 - 08/21/19 03:09 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Escitalopram.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Northerner]
    #26145763 - 08/21/19 06:42 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Not all SSRi's are the same, many target different receptor groups, and not all people are the same chemically so results will vary.

Apart from the danger of wasting perfectly good drugs there's virtually no increased danger by mixing the two.

Studies on possible interactions have shown a negligible negative reaction possibility, so low it could be statistical anomaly.

Edit: Taking high doses of SSRIs and psychedelics could be an issue though. It's just in controlled doses that there is very little chance of any harm. The effects of the substances are after all not synergistic.



SSRIs stands for Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

Serotonin is NOT something to be fucking with.
And yes, Northerner... They ALL target the same receptor group, actually.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #26145797 - 08/21/19 07:34 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

As well as they can be synergistic.  It depends at what point in ssri exposure the psycadelic is taken.  First two weeks I know for experience that it's a strong trip.

5ht2a is serotonin hence the 5ht.  That is where most controlled rec drugs that cause hallucinations function.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26146411 - 08/21/19 02:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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SSRIs stands for Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

Serotonin is NOT something to be fucking with.
And yes, Northerner... They ALL target the same receptor group, actually.



Yes I know what they are exactly how they work. Different SSRIs have varying affinities for different receptors within the group also. 2 minutes of Google Fu can confirm that for you.

Many drugs fuck with seratonin, there is a chance of seratonin syndrome just by taking mdma or other amphetamines, or even an SSRI by itself. Everyone's chemistry is different.

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As well as they can be synergistic.  It depends at what point in ssri exposure the psycadelic is taken.  First two weeks I know for experience that it's a strong trip.




Didn't know that.

Taking an SSRI even a year after taking psychedelics can lead to strong flashbacks as well. It's a weird relationship between the two.


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Re: Microdosing plus antidepressants [Re: Northerner]
    #26147551 - 08/22/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

:yinyangtrip:

A lot of mixed information in the bag. :nyan:


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