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How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions?
    #7813744 - 12/30/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

OEV->CEV
The visuals are the same but suddenly get a deeper and more detailed structure.

CEV->OEV
The visuals disappear for a moment and they come back, mostly unrelated with what I was seeing before. Kind of a "visual reset".

This is true for me for most substances (with subtle nuances) and doses, but there are exceptions. On high doses there's almost no difference whether I open or close my eyes.


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Re: How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions? [Re: funnybunny]
    #7813786 - 12/30/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

my open and closed eye visauls usaully dont connect at all really. its a totally different experience when i close my eyes.


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Re: How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7816084 - 12/31/07 06:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Of course CEV visuals are very different, but in my case they start off from my OEVs, eventually wandering to images never seen in OEVs.


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Re: How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions? [Re: funnybunny]
    #7816273 - 12/31/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Its the same for me funnybunny.
i use that kind of reset when you open your eyes conciously when my hallucinations drift into something i don´t really want to see or that makes me feel uncomfortable, so i can start on a clean slate, again.


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Re: How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions? [Re: Pithlit]
    #7816331 - 12/31/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hey funnybunny,
this is an intriguing relationship.
we could add in the following distinctions:
darker room oev
lighter room oev
after image relations to oev
edge-color interference to oev and to after image oev.
rainbow interference geometries, & related fractal geometries:
i.e flame/cloud patterns vs scale/crystal patterns
degree of subunit repetition/hollographic integration...


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Re: How are your OEV->CEV and CEV->OEV transitions? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7817151 - 12/31/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think of it like this: OEV and CEV both follow the same "theme," but within that they contain different motifs. When I close my eyes, especially on mushrooms, I tend to see lots of faces and alex grey like beings, accompanied by complex patterns. When I open my eyes I usually just see patterns on everything, but those patterns are usually similar to the 'background patterns' i see when I close my eyes.

Either way, if this particular trip has lots of fractal, sharp patterns, that will be reflected with both OEV and CEV, and the same goes for melty, dreamy patterns.


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