relic said:

it IS p funny to imagine ecstatic driving around in a beemer...no matter how far fetched.

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JHOVA said:

can you beat #1?
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-california-poverty-rate-20180913-htmlstory.html
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/406595-california-has-highest-poverty-rate-in-us-feds

L.A. and i fucking hate it haha.

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JHOVA said:

cant

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Is it because of all the dried gay spooge everywhere?

Are you literally glued to the spot, or...

Also, 14 seconds. Impressive. Evidence suggests you are glued to your computer chair by our own spooge. Did you manage to rub one off in that 14 secs?

qman said:

Gays like Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gays_for_Trump

https://magagala.org/

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You can hear the panic in the Somali man's voice, his breathing getting heavier as he tries to find his way through deep snow somewhere near the Canadian border.

He's with four other people who have just come into Manitoba from the U.S. on foot in the dead of winter.

"We are freezing to death," the man says during a frantic 911 call for help during the wee morning hours of Feb. 11, 2017.

It's dark out and the man is lost. He's been walking for five, maybe six hours.

"I'm trying to figure it out, where we are," he tells the 911 operator. "We are trying to find the road."

The 911 call made by a Somali refugee claimant who nearly froze to death in a brutal Manitoba winter provides rare insight into the extraordinary measures asylum seekers take to get into Canada.

It also offers a peek into the world of the 911 operators who try to help with little information to go on.

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In this case, the calm, authoritative voice on the other end of the call is Wendy McMillan, a 911 operator who's worked for the RCMP for more than seven years.

Cellphone service near the border is spotty and the man's phone isn't connected to a provider — it can only be used to make a 911 call — but McMillan finds out a driver dropped the group off near the border town of Pembina, N.D.

The man is on the phone for seven minutes before he tells her why he's out in the cold.

"We are seeking asylum. That's why we tried to come here."

Things escalate as the man speaks to McMillan. One man can no longer walk.

The caller's breathing gets heavier as he pants in the cold.

"It's like my hands are falling off," he says. "It's freezing. Snow is too much. We almost freeze to death."

McMillan tells him to take the group to the road, where they should stay put.

"You want the officers to pick you up, right?" she asks.

"Canadian?"

"Yes," she responds.

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The plea for help ends after more than 14 minutes, with 911 operators having determined the group's location and dispatched Mounties and an ambulance.

"Can you tell them to hurry up?" the man asks before hanging up.

"Yeah, we did," McMillan responds.

McMillan recently sat down with CBC News for an interview at the RCMP dispatch centre in Winnipeg to talk about the behind-the-scenes work of 911 operators who dealt with waves of refugee claimants, including children, crossing into Manitoba and other provinces on foot.

McMillan and her colleagues daily fielded calls similar to the one described in this story from refugee claimants phoning from farmers' fields and rural roads around the Emerson, Man., area.

In 2017, the RCMP intercepted 1,018 asylum seekers who made their way into Manitoba somewhere other than at an official border crossing.

The following year, RCMP received at least — but likely more than — 177 calls from refugee claimants who dialed 911 after crossing into Manitoba, they said.

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Listening to the call, which the CBC received more than two years after making an Access to Information request for it, McMillan remembers what she and her colleagues were doing to find the group.

"It was crazy, 'cause you don't know, you don't know who he's with, where he's at. He says Minnesota but that's a pretty big state, so you're not quite sure where he's coming from."

Using maps and yes-no questions about the area around the man, such as whether there was water nearby, McMillan and her co-workers located the group.

Cellphone triangulation isn't always like the movies, she said — sometimes a call can be pinpointed to a 100-metre radius, while other times it may be 10,000 metres.

Often RCMP officers drive around in the dark with their lights and sirens on to try to find someone. A 911 operator on the phone with a lost refugee claimant asks whether they can see or hear the Mounties' cruiser.

McMillan smiled as she listened to the man asking if she was sending Canadian officers to his rescue.

"It's very common. They want to make sure that they've actually crossed the border and obviously, they don't want to go back home, so they want help."

Many of the refugee claimants who have walked into Manitoba from the U.S. since Donald Trump was elected U.S. president in fall 2016 have needed that help.

A pair of Ghanaian men made international headlines when they lost all their fingers to frostbite on Christmas Eve in 2016 after wandering lost through farmers' fields.

Razak Iyal and Seidu Mohammed spent time in U.S. detention centres and were afraid they'd be deported home, where they say they would face violence. Both were later granted refugee protection by Canada.

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In 2017, a Ghanaian woman was found dead near the Canada-U.S. border, and in January 2018, another refugee claimant got frostbite so badly he had to have the tops of three fingers amputated.

Refugee claimants currently can make an asylum claim if they cross into Canada somewhere other than at an official port of entry.

The Canada-U.S. Safe Third Country Agreement forces asylum seekers to make a claim for refugee status in the first safe country they arrive in, meaning migrants who've arrived in the U.S. from another country aren't eligible to apply for refugee status in Canada, with a few exceptions.

One exception allows someone to make an asylum claim after crossing into Canada somewhere other than at an official border entry point.

The federal Liberals are now trying to slow that with a provision in an omnibus budget bill tabled in April, which would prohibit someone who started a refugee claim in another country from starting a new one here.

Refugee claimants continue to cross into Canada. From January to April this year, 3,844 border crossers were intercepted by the RCMP in Quebec alone.

In Manitoba, things have slowed down, with only 30 people being caught by the Mounties during the same period.

But 911 operators in Winnipeg still get desperate calls from time to time.

In March, a pregnant woman had to be rescued after she walked into Manitoba and got stuck in the snow.

McMillan doesn't see a difference between the calls from refugee claimants or anyone else who phones for help.

Helping people in need is why she does her job, she said.

"Just knowing that you can even help just one person, could be a family, whatever the case may be, but just knowing that you're there for somebody."

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qman said:

https://www.libertynation.com/ca-voters-not-happy-with-free-medical-for-illegals/

Stunning news, who would have ever thought that giving away the farm to illegals while tens of millions of US citizens are suffering in dire poverty would be unpopular?

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Who would have thought? should be good for trump with election season kicking off 

ballsalsa said:

lol, not in california.  you could add up orange county and all the hillbilly inland counties together and it only makes like, 1/3 of the people.
Realistically, it was always free for illegals through the ER which is more expensive and clogs the place up when guys like me get smashed with a baseball bat and need to get looked at sooner than 18hrs from now.
Still, California should do single payer for all.

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Every time I state that illegals get free health care regardless of the circumstances, Fal suggests I'm lying because the hospital will send them a bill in the mail. 

ballsalsa said:

sure, if they give the right name and have actual identifying documents.
to be fair, citizens could play the same game and probably do fairly often.  Just go to the ER, say, your name is Joe Blow and that you lost your ID.

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christopera said:

I have a huge issue with US citizens freeloading. I'm tired of my insurance premiums going up.

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XUL said:

How about a system that pays 3/4 of the non-insured ER visits, but still leaves those visiting citizens with bad credit and possibly the dissolution of their estate upon death.

That way it's not full on health care and people are still penalized before or after death.

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