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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Lmao this is why no one takes you seriously.

Like yesterday when I pointed out your differentiation between Americans and blacks,gays, trans people. Then you respond with “of course they’re all Americans why do YOU choose to label them differently?!”

Give me a fucking break.



Keep embracing identity politics while simultaneously calling for unity, that's been working out so well for the racial left. 

You don't want unity, you want confrontation and revenge for perceived wrongdoings. You got exactly what you want today, a cultural war with no end in sight.



You’re literally a white supremacist. You’ve admitted to such numerous times. But yeah it’s the left that embraces idpol.


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Re: Leftists [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Lol it seems like the right are always coming up with buzzwords to pin onto the left. Distract and deflect and when that fails just mutter incoherently until a change of topic. We really have no short-term memory as a species.


:omgawesome:


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Legalize drugs and prostitution

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Re: Leftists [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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Anarchist Compañerx Nikos Romanos Released from Prison in Greece



And some context:
Putting Ideas on Trial: The Greek State’s Laboratory of Repression - An Interview with Nikos Romanos, (Formerly) Imprisoned Anarchist

The Case of «Individual Terrorists» - Nikos Romanos, Korydallos Prison 27/3/2018

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In conclusion, we can safely say that the condemnations of the state and its appointed servants neither bend us nor terrorize us, neither us nor the comrades who are fighting for our common cause. Anarchy in our heart will continue to burn until it burns the last remnants of this aged world which generates all that technocratic ugliness that covers every centimetre of this planet. Until that beautiful day when free and captive comrades will have the smile of satisfaction for the just act of our struggle imprinted in every gesture, the struggle continues and will continue against the architects of all the small and great blows against our lives.

Strength and solidarity to all those comrades who stand next to us each in their own way.

Anarchy will win… Everything continues!




Defending a social center in Thessaloniki from riot police during demonstrations in solidarity with Nikos Romanos.


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Re: Leftists [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Lmao this is why no one takes you seriously.

Like yesterday when I pointed out your differentiation between Americans and blacks,gays, trans people. Then you respond with “of course they’re all Americans why do YOU choose to label them differently?!”

Give me a fucking break.



Keep embracing identity politics while simultaneously calling for unity, that's been working out so well for the racial left. 

You don't want unity, you want confrontation and revenge for perceived wrongdoings. You got exactly what you want today, a cultural war with no end in sight.



You’re literally a white supremacist. You’ve admitted to such numerous times. But yeah it’s the left that embraces idpol.



I admitted to that?  I don't recall ever making any suggestion like that. So who's telling the truth here?  :popcorn:

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Re: Leftists [Re: qman] * 4
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Me


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Re: Leftists [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: Leftists [Re: Shroomism]
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BC transwoman files human rights complaint for discrimination
gets called anti-immigrant

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/transgender-woman-human-rights-waxing-1.5227434

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A transgender woman testified before the B.C. Human Rights tribunal Friday complaining that she was refused Brazilian waxes at more than a dozen beauty salons because she is transgender.

Jessica Yaniv says she's been repeatedly refused waxing services since 2018. For the past several months, the tribunal has been conducting hearings into the complaints against each of the waxing salons and independent estheticians.

"None of these providers had any issue with anything until I mentioned I was transgender. Why was it not brought up saying, 'Hey we don't do services on male genitalia'?"

Yaniv, who identifies as female but has male genitalia, contacted the businesses through Facebook messages requesting to book an appointment for waxing services including a Brazilian wax which removes most or all pubic hair.

She says many of the estheticians advertised themselves as offering arm, leg, and pubic hair waxing for either male or female customers.

However, when Yaniv informed them she was transgender she says she was suddenly refused appointments outright, or that the estheticians made excuses for no longer being able to perform the service.

In response to the complaints against them, several estheticians have claimed to lack the training required for waxing male genitals, or that they are not comfortable doing so for religious or personal reasons.

Yaniv withdrew a previous complaint against Laser Cut and was ordered by the tribunal to pay legal costs of $150.



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Religion and lack of training

Earlier this month, the Calgary-based Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms represented three British Columbian estheticians before the human rights tribunal.

"We don't believe that it's a human right to be able to compel a woman to wax male genitalia," said lawyer and Justice Centre president John Carpay.

On its website, the centre states that one of its clients, Sandeep Banipal is not trained to wax male genitals and that Blue Heaven Beauty Lounge, the business she owns, does not advertise male genital waxing.

Sukhi Hehar Gill, an esthetician also represented by the Justice Centre, is a practicing Sikh and claims this prevents her from travelling to a biologically male's house for house calls.

The public hearing attracted attention Friday with about 30 individuals attending the proceedings and gathering outside. Some were there to support Yaniv while others demonstrated in support of the estheticians, many of whom are women of colour.

In a May 2019 decision, the tribunal member adjudicating the hearing said she was "troubled that some of JY's comments, made within this process and online, suggest that she holds stereotypical and negative views about immigrants to Canada."

Yaniv is seeking financial remedies of $25,000 from at least one corporate salon and $7,500 from an independent esthetician.

She also wants the B.C. Human Rights tribunal to issue a statement declaring the refusal of waxing services to be discriminatory and prohibited.

"It's not about the service at all," said Yaniv after the hearing concluded on Friday. "When you start discriminating against certain service elements and certain protected classes that's when we really have an issue."

The tribunal says it will have a decision on the case within three months.



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Re: Leftists [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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Progressive Admits to Self-Censorship


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Re: Leftists [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said:
Progressive Admits to Self-Censorship





Because of the radical left, so sad.

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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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I agree, it is sad.  Some of the left has become the party of fake news and ignorance.

Where did that come from?  It used to be primarily the right.  :shrug:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Leftists [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I agree, it is sad.  Some of the left has become the party of fake news and ignorance.

Where did that come from?  It used to be primarily the right.  :shrug:



Maybe it's the rapid speed of social media today. Every little statement is now recorded and scrutinized to the highest degree. 

I have recently been talking with an English Literature professor from a very good university. He has admitted that he censors what reading material is now covered because it could potentially offend some of his students and he doesn't want to deal with it. So very sad to not be able to cover some great literature because of the PC culture.

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Re: Leftists [Re: qman]
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Jeff Daniels Says "To Kill A Mockingbird" Is A "Right Hook" To White Liberals


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Re: Leftists [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I agree, it is sad.  Some of the left has become the party of fake news and ignorance.

Where did that come from?  It used to be primarily the right.  :shrug:



Maybe it's the rapid speed of social media today. Every little statement is now recorded and scrutinized to the highest degree. 

I have recently been talking with an English Literature professor from a very good university. He has admitted that he censors what reading material is now covered because it could potentially offend some of his students and he doesn't want to deal with it. So very sad to not be able to cover some great literature because of the PC culture.



Funny - when I was in high school (early 2000s) it was the overwhelmingly right-wing evangelicals/religious freaks who controlled both the politics and school council where I lived...

They're the ones who banned 1984 at our school (irony points) :lolsy:

Our English teacher (a gosh darned lefty) decided to teach it anyway against the ban though :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Leftists [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I agree, it is sad.  Some of the left has become the party of fake news and ignorance.

Where did that come from?  It used to be primarily the right.  :shrug:





the far left is, and always has been as crazy as the far right. 



extremism/fundamentalism is pretty much always a bad thing

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Re: Leftists [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
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Are you suggesting that the "centre" is free of extremism/fundamentalism?


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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
Are you suggesting that the "centre" is free of extremism/fundamentalism?





no, unfortunately.  however, can one really call themselves "center" if they hold extreme or fundamental ideals?  it kind of goes against the definition of center and extreme.

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Re: Leftists [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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In that Jeff Daniels interview when he was talking about Michigan, I was thinking the Democrats really need to forget everything except those 8 or 10 states that are contested.

The primaries, however, are a different battle entirely, and one that I don't entirely understand the process. I have seen some recent polls that try to approach simulations of the state primaries, which seems to be a new approach with very untested validity.

At any rate, whoever it comes down to, even if we are stuck with Biden, needs to really focus because 40 states are already decided, and the popular vote doesn't count.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: Leftists [Re: Tulipslave]
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Tulipslave said:
shivas.wisdom said:
Are you suggesting that the "centre" is free of extremism/fundamentalism?





no, unfortunately.  however, can one really call themselves "center" if they hold extreme or fundamental ideals?  it kind of goes against the definition of center and extreme.



I guess that depends on how one defines "centrist" and "extremist". Is centrism a cohesive ideology, or is it the merely defence of a status quo compromise (whatever that may be) that varies with the political zeitgeist? Is extremism a position that favours political violence, or merely one that significantly deviates from the status quo?

I would suggest that the inability to properly respond to the failures of the drug war is partly the result of centrist fundamentalism. I would say the same thing with our inability to respond to climate change. Your thoughts?


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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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Centrist are complacent.  Which is likely a safe bet.


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"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: Leftists [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
Tulipslave said:
shivas.wisdom said:
Are you suggesting that the "centre" is free of extremism/fundamentalism?





no, unfortunately.  however, can one really call themselves "center" if they hold extreme or fundamental ideals?  it kind of goes against the definition of center and extreme.



I guess that depends on how one defines "centrist" and "extremist". Is centrism a cohesive ideology, or is it the merely defence of a status quo compromise (whatever that may be) that varies with the political zeitgeist? Is extremism a position that favours political violence, or merely one that significantly deviates from the status quo?

I would suggest that the inability to properly respond to the failures of the drug war is partly the result of centrist fundamentalism. I would say the same thing with our inability to respond to climate change. Your thoughts?





fair.

how i define centrism is probably not the standard definition.  when i say someone who is "center" or "middle of the road" in reference to politics, it is someone who GENERALLY believes there is no one, sole approach to any given situation and/or series of situations.  it is someone who may support ideals of the right in one instance, and ideals of the left in another, and upon occasion intertwine the two sets of ideals, so that the most stable and beneficial outcome FOR ALL PERSONS/GROUPS involved is achieved.  additionally, it might be someone that recognizes unilateral decision-making is rarely how matters are best handled.  it would be someone who does not issue knee-jerk emotional responses, yet considers the full, sweeping historical context of a situation into the issue(s) at hand and offers well-developed responses.


i hope that is a little clearer in what i refer to as a "center" or "centrist" politician.

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