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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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sandman420 said:
Ditto on the 1TDU2 being the good choice if you are buying new.


micelio said:
For a 24"x24"x5.8" Hepa, with .3 micron I would be looking at this blower: DAYTON 1TDU2


Thanks ya'll, but that's not an option for me at those prices :heart: I could cap out somewhere around $200~ shipped. Part of my problem with all this.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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The 1tdt8 is a two speed blower. That's why there's two sets of numbers.

electric motor warehouse has the full graphs for dayton blowers, instead of the chart on the grainger site.

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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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Laminar flow is when the air velocity is the same on all four side as well as center of the filter. If not you could create turbulence that sucks non filter air into your work area.
If you don't reach laminar flow no big deal. Just work close to the face of the filter.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: foragedfungus]
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Ayyy nice tip on the electric motor warehouse having the real full graphs. Would you believe me if I told you Grainger/Dayton themselves won't even supply this info or don't have it any more, I tried before to get the full graphs. +1


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: sandman420]
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1tdT8 only has about 240 cfm @ 1.1" static pressure (~0.9" for the HEPA and 0.2" for the prefilter)  it's not really adequate. Maybe the guy using it has a 0.5" static pressure HEPA.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: sandman420]
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I know its not the answer you want but its the answer you need.

You’re gonna have to save up a bit for the 1tdu2 or try to find one second hand. You can probably get away with a slower blower but I’d just wait till I could afford that one personally.

It may seem like a lot of money but compared to buying a pre made flow hood its alot cheaper. Like 1/2-1/3 the cost. And if you ever decide to upgrade to 24x36 it will be powerful enough so think of it as an investment.

Also I wasn’t suggesting buying it from FP because they are marked up, I just did the research a year ago and managed to dig up what they sell because its unlabeled on their website, I’d get it from electric motor warehouse or grainger, although you might be able to find one on ebay for cheaper.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: AyePlus]
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foragedfungus said:
electric motor warehouse has the full graphs for dayton blowers, instead of the chart on the grainger site.


Thank you! And FUCKKKKKK.

At least that has the charts I was looking for. Why is that shit so hard to find?

AyePlus said:
I know its not the answer you want but its the answer you need.

You’re gonna have to save up a bit for the 1tdu2 or try to find one second hand. You can probably get away with a slower blower but I’d just wait till I could afford that one personally.


It may be the answer I need, but it's not the answer I can afford :shrug: I get what you're saying, and I'm not here for pity, but that's wildly outside my budget for a lot of reasons that I don't feel like getting into in a public space.

It's just frustrating that there's nothing between the $150 blower and the $275 blower that would work, especially since that $275 blower is well above and beyond what I need. I'm not looking to upgrade at some point down the line either, and I wouldn't even be here asking about this if it wasn't for the extreme kindness I got in receiving the filter in the first place. I'm doing my best to work with what I've got and trying to find a solution I can afford :heart: Thanks for all the help with this everyone.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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Keep looking daily i found a 1tdu2 for 170 dollars shipped brand new in box too


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: bodhisatta]
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You could probably get away with something like a 12" inline fan used in weed grows...or wait for a deal on the big blower you need.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: bodhisatta]
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free shipping

https://electricmotorwarehouse.com/dayton-model-1tdu2-blower-1202-cfm-1390-rpm-115-230v-60-50hz-4c831/


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: sandman420]
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bodhisatta said:
Keep looking daily i found a 1tdu2 for 170 dollars shipped brand new in box too


Yeah, I know you did! :lol: I'm going to set up an alert on ebay for this. I've also started contacting a few other HVAC places further out and it's all the same damn line "We don't sell parts." When you don't have money but you have time... keep calling I guess :shrug:

sandman420 said:
You could probably get away with something like a 12" inline fan used in weed grows...or wait for a deal on the big blower you need.


I was looking at those and wondering about that. That looks REALLY hard to get a good seal/build on. I saw that people here use them (even TCs)... do you think it would be easy enough to set up? I also ran into the issue that most seem to not have the technical specs for resistances and such. Do you have any experience working with these?


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: sandman420]
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sandman420 said:
120 volt, 3 to 4 ton squirrel cage blower, direct drive, 1/3 to 1/2 hp should be all the info they need. Just say you are building a garage fan to ventilate.


Using this, I called (216) 228-8200 (idk if i can include that...)

anyways I was asked for rpm which i couldn't answer.

I was quoted $150 for there 1/2 HP, 3 speed
$145 for 1/3 HP, 3 speed

I didnt get much info on product detail but that is what she came back with when I provided the info you were told to.

I can give the company name, its not in your area, but if it works and you wanted to pay for it, I do happen to manage the shipping dept where I work and could certainly help get it to you....pretty good UPS rates


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: Camera93]
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Fuck Camera, that's above and beyond needed, and super thoughtful. I'm going to keep calling around here... I'm circling further and further out, if I don't hear anything by the end of the week, I'll hit you up :heart:


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: AyePlus]
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AyePlus said:
I know its not the answer you want but its the answer you need.

You’re gonna have to save up a bit for the 1tdu2 or try to find one second hand. You can probably get away with a slower blower but I’d just wait till I could afford that one personally.

It may seem like a lot of money but compared to buying a pre made flow hood its alot cheaper. Like 1/2-1/3 the cost. And if you ever decide to upgrade to 24x36 it will be powerful enough so think of it as an investment.

Also I wasn’t suggesting buying it from FP because they are marked up, I just did the research a year ago and managed to dig up what they sell because its unlabeled on their website, I’d get it from electric motor warehouse or grainger, although you might be able to find one on ebay for cheaper.


A lady friend of mine has a 24"x48"x 5.8" and has the 1tdu2. It a nice match up..
The next size blower down from the 1tdu2 does not have enough muscle..


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: micelio]
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It was a fun phone call that got me away from actually working for a moment so no problem lol.
Anyway I/we can help, this community is awesome, I just wanna be a part of.
I'm gonna wanna build one eventually so you going through all the bumps and bruises along the way for info is the exact "search" material I'd be looking for in a couple months


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: Camera93]
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For anyone interested in the specs. of the Dayton 1tdu2

CFM @ 0.000-In. SP 1202
CFM @ 0.100-In. SP 1170
CFM @ 0.200-In. SP 1150
CFM @ 0.300-In. SP 1140
CFM @ 0.400-In. SP 1120
CFM @ 0.500-In. SP 1100
CFM @ 0.600-In. SP 1080
CFM @ 0.700-In. SP 1075
CFM @ 0.800-In. SP 1040

Scroll down for Technical Specs..
https://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-Rectangular-Permanent-Split-1TDU2


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: micelio]
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Thanks ya'll. I'll get this sorted. I don't need to buy it today, so I'm going to have to keep working at it... or spend time saving things up I guess.

Well... I finally found one person who sells used parts, but doesn't have anything I'm looking for (either too big or too small)... up to 22 calls today. Going to take a break until tomorrow :rolleyes:


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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If you do go with a inline blower, it's pretty easy to attach and seal it up actually. You just cut the hole with a jigsaw so it will sit in it and then just use some window sealing expanding foam in a can (blue cap not yellow) and spray in the gap to kinda glue it in there and seal it at the same time. I have done this before on an old hood many years back and it worked fine for me. Down side is if and when you are done with the hood you have to hack the fan out but it can be done...fan will be ugly after but ehh. Just another option for yas.


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: sandman420]
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After making almost 100 calls (84 places!) no one was willing to sell me anything, except someone who had much larger blowers than I needed, and they were $250 anyways... So, I scraped and saved... but mostly I sold some shit that I didn't need any more. I got the money together and just ordered the Dayton Model 1TDU2 Blower from Electric Motor Warehouse. Thanks for all the help... ALMOST THERE!


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Re: Help me confirm that I have the right blower to buy for my FH [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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Congratulations.. You made the right choice..
Little baby steps, and soon you'll have It..

:thumbup:


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