Enlil said:

The Ecstatic said:

Enlil said:

The Ecstatic said:

I'll pick Last Week Tonight as my source. Have at it.

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LWT’s story on Venezuela a few months (a year?) back was chock full of blatant lies, for example that the US played no role in the current situation in Venezuela, despite crippling sanctions and the outright funding of right wing opposition groups.

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When did he say that the U.S. played no role in the current situation?  I just had to watch that segment, and I couldn't find that part.  Can you link it or give me a quote from it?

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Around 13:30 mark

“What’s happening in Venezuela is actually not our fault.” Right after failing to mention the attempted coup in 2002 against Chavez.

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On my computer he said it at 14:15 - "Refreshingly, what's happening in Venezuela is actually not our fault.  Accusing America of creating Venezuala's crisis is about as fair as fair as accusing OJ Simpson of murdering Princess Diana."

There's one hell of a lie right there.

The Ecstatic said:

It’s 46 minutes long and the guy’s voice is annoying but I found this video to be a decent rebuttal to the picture LWT tonight paints of the situation in Venezuela:

Also keep in mind this is before the “we’re gonna back the dude who unilaterally declared himself president and promised to open oil fields to private companies” thing unfolded.

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Holy cow, that was a great video.    After watching that I've lost ALL my remaining respect for John Oliver because he is clearly one hell of a bullshit artist.  Enlil picked the wrong show - that video alone should win me this contest.

But prove us wrong.  Tell us about an rt.com lie.  Anyone here can play.   

koods said:

The establismeeeeeent

The rallying cry of the hippy

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Enlil said:

Is that the "fake news story" you're choosing?

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Tell us about an rt.com lie.  Anyone here can play.   

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Before she became a national correspondent for Sinclair Broadcast Group, Kristine Frazao worked for the Kremlin-backed network RT (formerly Russia Today), where she interviewed conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on more than 20 occasions. During those friendly interviews, Frazao allowed Jones to push conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks, 2011 Norway shooting, and 2005 London bombings, among other events.

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Enlil said:

So, in order to qualify as a "fake news story," it need only have some false information and/or omissions of relevant facts?  I just want to make sure we have consistent rules in this thing.

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Psilynut2 said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Tell us about an rt.com lie.  Anyone here can play.   

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How about that time they lied about Russia using cluster bombs in Syria , exposed their own lie by airing video footage of Russia using cluster bombs and then tried to edit the footage and lied about that.


https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2016/06/21/russian-lies-exposed-in-their-own-reports-syrian-crisis/

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Enlil said:

I'll go with this story:

https://www.rt.com/news/426953-opcw-chlorine-saraqeb-attack/

Debunked here:

https://www.polygraph.info/a/rt-calls-white-helmets-jihadists/29233019.html

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A former British ambassador to Syria told RT the OPCW ‘s claim that chlorine was "likely used" in Saraqeb, Syria, in February is "seriously misleading" because it is based on evidence provided by “jihadists.”

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In fact, the entire OPCW account is based on witness testimonies and material evidence provided by selected NGOs as well as medical records offered by the same questionable sources, including Belgium-based Same Justice/Chemical Violations Documentation Center of Syria (CVDCS), the notorious Syrian Civil Defense (SCD) – better known as White Helmets – and the US-based Syrian American Medical Society (SAMS).

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koods said:

I’m sure russian state media will have totally unbiased reporting on Venezuela. It’s not like they are sending troops there or anything.

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Enlil said:

I'm sorry, Falcon.  You don't get to decide what is and isn't true or misleading.  If I decided, you would not have been allowed to use that LWT episode, because I believe the episode to be accurate.

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Enlil said:

RT printed this without any attribution to a source:

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In fact, the entire OPCW account is based on witness testimonies and material evidence provided by selected NGOs as well as medical records offered by the same questionable sources, including Belgium-based Same Justice/Chemical Violations Documentation Center of Syria (CVDCS), the notorious Syrian Civil Defense (SCD) – better known as White Helmets – and the US-based Syrian American Medical Society (SAMS).

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What are you talking about Enlil?  It says it right in the OPCW report:

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Through liaison with representatives of several NGOs, including Same Justice/Chemical Violations Documentation Center of Syria (CVDCS), the Syrian Civil Defence - also known as White Helmets - (SCD) and the Syrian American Medical Society (SAMS), the FFM contacted witnesses and confirmed their willingness to provide testimony and potential evidence.

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Again, rt is proven correct (unless you're saying you don't believe the OPCW report, but that's not on rt)

Enlil said:

If you aren't willing to play using the same standards on both sides, I'm not interested.  If you want the bar to be any statement that the other thinks is false, that's fine.  That's the bar that you hit with LWT so far.

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Can you please be clearer about what rt lied about?  So far everything they said has proven correct by video evidence and the OPCW report.

Enlil said:

If you want the standard to be a verifiably false statement, then you didn't meet that standard with the Venezuela piece.

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Did you miss the entire thread about US involvement in Venezuela?

You previously asked "When did he (John Oliver) say that the U.S. played no role in the current situation?" as if you knew that would have been an extremely stupid thing to say.  When The Ecstatic provided evidence that yes, he actually did say something that stupid, you now decided that you believe him???