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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
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My great grandmother got married at age 15 to her husband (age 19) and had 8 highly successful children and over 25 grandchildren, what was the negative aspect of that scenario?  There was none.


Yes she sounds like a highly successful baby factory


8 kids sounds pretty terrible.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
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My great grandmother got married at age 15 to her husband (age 19) and had 8 highly successful children and over 25 grandchildren, what was the negative aspect of that scenario?  There was none.


Yes she sounds like a highly successful baby factory


whats wrong with being a mother? you know your society has messed up values when people use derogatory terms for mother.

it seems like you are implying that because she got married and had a big, happy family instead of going out with a bunch of random dudes and pursuing a meaningless career during her fertile years shes oppressed.

feminists say they are for choice but then they go and bash wives and mothers.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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If you start pumping out kids at 16 you have essentially decided what you will be doing with your life. I don’t think a 16 year old is capable of making those decisions. The reality those decision were made for her.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods] * 3
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It was a different time, but these days getting married and having children in your teens is totally irresponsible and having eight children is immoral.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
It was a different time, but these days getting married and having children in your teens is totally irresponsible and having eight children is immoral.


My gf's daughter has a friend who got pregnant in highschool. She is utterly neglectful of that child, and hardly ever sees him. She collects child support for him, of course, from the teenage dad. Every teen parent I know of is a terrible parent, including my own, and my girlfriends mother, who was knocked up at 14.

We live in different times, and teenagers are less equipped to be parents nowadays than they've probably ever been, in my view.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Could be. Sounds like something Alex Jones would do. . Infowars is an absolutely worthless source for reality based reporting.

They have fraudulently edited videos before. They think that kind of journalism is fair game.


Prove it.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It was a different time, but these days getting married and having children in your teens is totally irresponsible and having eight children is immoral.


How is having 8 children immoral? Who are you to decide whats moral or not?
Look at Philip rivers, do you think him and his wife are immoral for having a large family?

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
qman said:
How does one get "conned into consensual sex"?  I understand the law states a 15 year old can't LEGALLY give constant, but that's a load of bullshit.

It wasn't that long ago that females were LEGALLY married at age 14 in the US, and yes they often married males that were much older. That isn't being preyed upon, it's the likely scenario for the vast majority of human history.

Regrettable consensual sex isn't rape or sexual abuse.


A 15 year old doesn't have a fully-formed prefrontal cortex.  It is unbelievably easy to trick a teen into just about anything.  To say otherwise is delusional.


Why did mother nature equip humans to reproduce without a "fully formed pro-frontal cortex"?  If it was that much of a factor the infant could potentially die from a retarded mother responsible for its care.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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wasn't that long ago that females were LEGALLY married at age 14 in the US, and yes they often married males that were much older. That isn't being preyed upon, it's the likely scenario for the vast majority of human hist


Most of those marriages are hardly consensual. They are usually arranged and the girls are often coerced by the community and their parents. These girls are almost always part of some fringe or extreme religious sect.


Less than 100 years ago, almost everyone was in an "extreme religious sect".

This is the fashion in which humans lived and reproduced, I don't think coercion is the proper description, it's more like tradition and culture.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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My great grandmother got married at age 15 to her husband (age 19) and had 8 highly successful children and over 25 grandchildren, what was the negative aspect of that scenario?  There was none.


Yes she sounds like a highly successful baby factory


Isn't that the name of the game, pass on that genetic material?

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Why did mother nature equip humans to reproduce without a "fully formed pro-frontal cortex"?  If it was that much of a factor the infant could potentially die from a retarded mother responsible for its care.


Mother nature didn't equip us for most things in modern life, and ironically enough, mother nature wasn't equipped to handle the rise of humankind.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Enlil said:
qman said:
How does one get "conned into consensual sex"?  I understand the law states a 15 year old can't LEGALLY give constant, but that's a load of bullshit.

It wasn't that long ago that females were LEGALLY married at age 14 in the US, and yes they often married males that were much older. That isn't being preyed upon, it's the likely scenario for the vast majority of human history.

Regrettable consensual sex isn't rape or sexual abuse.


A 15 year old doesn't have a fully-formed prefrontal cortex.  It is unbelievably easy to trick a teen into just about anything.  To say otherwise is delusional.


Why did mother nature equip humans to reproduce without a "fully formed pro-frontal cortex"?  If it was that much of a factor the infant could potentially die from a retarded mother responsible for its care.



Has it not occurred to you qman that teenagers, respectfully, are a simplified version of the person they will become to be all their lives, and that during this biological rollout they must be protected against manipulative adults?

I'm pretty sure mother nature intended 2 15yos frolicking and exploring and not a 15yo getting wedded to a seasoned adult using them for his mature kinks that took many years to ripen and deepen.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
mother nature wasn't equipped to handle the rise of humankind.



Shes handling it beautifully, everything is dying to make way for our plans to unfold. If we fail to have plans of substance we get caught up in our extinction event and the giant insects of the second Carbon age will be the next intelligent lifeform.


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personal empowerment for the world

Onehomemission.org
truly make a difference

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Bigbadwooof said:
mother nature wasn't equipped to handle the rise of humankind.



Shes handling it beautifully, everything is dying to make way for our plans to unfold. If we fail to have plans of substance we get caught up in our extinction event and the giant insects of the second Carbon age will be the next intelligent lifeform.


Lol! I like it.

Yes, I think releasing all of this carbon could lead to the evolution of giant bugs and large creatures like we no longer have on earth.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
qman said:
Why did mother nature equip humans to reproduce without a "fully formed pro-frontal cortex"?  If it was that much of a factor the infant could potentially die from a retarded mother responsible for its care.


Mother nature didn't equip us for most things in modern life, and ironically enough, mother nature wasn't equipped to handle the rise of humankind.


We're here talking about it, so it's all good on that front.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: qman]
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qman said:
We're here talking about it, so it's all good on that front.


It's all good on what front? Are you saying that, because we're alive, everything is great?


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
qman said:
Enlil said:
qman said:
How does one get "conned into consensual sex"?  I understand the law states a 15 year old can't LEGALLY give constant, but that's a load of bullshit.

It wasn't that long ago that females were LEGALLY married at age 14 in the US, and yes they often married males that were much older. That isn't being preyed upon, it's the likely scenario for the vast majority of human history.

Regrettable consensual sex isn't rape or sexual abuse.


A 15 year old doesn't have a fully-formed prefrontal cortex.  It is unbelievably easy to trick a teen into just about anything.  To say otherwise is delusional.


Why did mother nature equip humans to reproduce without a "fully formed pro-frontal cortex"?  If it was that much of a factor the infant could potentially die from a retarded mother responsible for its care.



Has it not occurred to you qman that teenagers, respectfully, are a simplified version of the person they will become to be all their lives, and that during this biological rollout they must be protected against manipulative adults?

I'm pretty sure mother nature intended 2 15yos frolicking and exploring and not a 15yo getting wedded to a seasoned adult using them for his mature kinks that took many years to ripen and deepen.


Biological evolution doesn't have any intentions, it's all about survival and reproduction.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Biological evolution doesn't have any intentions, it's all about survival and reproduction.


Yes, and we humans are about more than biology. Human life is not governed exclusively by our biology. I suspect you'll be defending the natural reproductive basis for rape next.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
qman said:
Biological evolution doesn't have any intentions, it's all about survival and reproduction.


Yes, and we humans are about more than biology. Human life is not governed exclusively by our biology. I suspect you'll be defending the natural reproductive basis for rape next.


I'm unaware of anything that is human and not biological.

I don't think anyone would defend rape as a "natural reproductive basis" today, but with that being said, rape is obviously in our DNA and we wouldn't likely be here discussing the issue if humans didn't practice the behavior throughout our history.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
I'm unaware of anything that is human and not biological.


I said that we are more than biological, which is why we have achieved so much, as a species. We have developed external tools and philosophical frameworks, which enhance our biology, and make us more capable as a species, than those species which were closely, biologically related to us.

Biology is not exclusively the basis for human discourse, but a factor. One which we often take measures to mitigate, for good reason.

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I don't think anyone would defend rape as a "natural reproductive basis" today, but with that being said, rape is obviously in our DNA and we wouldn't likely be here discussing the issue if humans didn't practice the behavior throughout our history.


We would certainly be here without rape. That is just preposterous. We can reproduce without rape, and in fact that is generally the case in modern civilized society.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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