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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: natedawgnow]
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A representative democracy is the same thing as a republic. The terms are interchangeable.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: natedawgnow]
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all republics are democracies not all democracies are republics.

we're only a republic because of individual sovereignty


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My Q&A thread. Ask me questions here rather than in Private Message
Bod's chat thread

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
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Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Great Scott]
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direct democracy*


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My Q&A thread. Ask me questions here rather than in Private Message
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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: bodhisatta]
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That's what I said... pure democracy


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Great Scott]
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Great Scott said:
Any stones left unturned on the gamer gate situation? Let's dredge that back up.


If I ever get a date with Zoe Quinn I’m taking her to Five Guys.  It’ll be a short date.

Bigbadwooof said:
MagicMush123 said:
You basically have to go out of your way to get nazi gear


Well, I basically mean what I say I mean.

Anyway, I don't know any sensible person who doesn't think this guy, walking up to a bunch of black guys, wearing a swastica, and bitching about niggers on welfare doesn't deserve to get knocked the fuck out.



Anyone who argues with that is being ridiculous.

I really hate watching the process of conservatives devolving into the kind of fucking assholes who defend neo-nazis, and don't have any problem with a bunch of teenagers harassing the shit out of some old Native dude.

It seems like you guys just defend every preposterous position you can. Not on it's merits, but to antagonize the decent people around you. The Donald Trump conservatives are nothing more than a bunch of fucking trolls.

I am only relieved that you folks are utterly fucked next election cycle.


You’ve managed to misrepresent that video.
Brian Jones said:
You don't have to go out of your way to get Nazi gear. It's such a big fetish item in the U.S. that I even know some people who aren't fucking assholes who are into it.


I’ve heard a story of a guy in the gay community dressing like hitler for a New Years party.
bodhisatta said:
representative democracy is a pretty good oxymoron. That's like saying I'll have a refreshing glass of sand. the representative part is built in to remove democracy and put choices back into the hands of the governance rather than the populace.

a freedom of choice slide of hands.


The electoral college keeps New York and LA from running the country every election.  It’s a good thing.
natedawgnow said:
We are none of those things. We are a republic. Democracy is a buzz word used
by the media to outrage you when they tell you it's being threatened by their
opposition

State government is more democratic in nature than our federal government is.


Bingo.
Great Scott said:
Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


Exactly.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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So apparently not even the black face stuff at Covington was legit. It's a color theme, as seen by all their clothes being black as well. They had another theme called "white-out" where kids are wearing the same face paintings with white paint and other color accents on the face too, among plenty of other themes with face and body paint. I don't know how I didn't even think of this because I remember the same type of "black out" themes for parties or dances at my high school too. Somebody should have known it would eventually come back to haunt them though, someone thought they hit a jackpot when they dug up that still frame out of all the other videos they have out also. I'm so tired of this shit.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Eminence] * 2
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:blast:


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said:
We are none of those things. We are a republic. Democracy is a buzz word used
by the media to outrage you when they tell you it's being threatened by their
opposition

State government is more democratic in nature than our federal government is.


A Republic is a Representative Democracy.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Great Scott] * 1
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Great Scott said:
Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


And Representative Democracies are better, because the tyranny of a minority is preferable?


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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apparently not even the black face stuff at Covington was legit. It's a color theme, as seen by all their clothes being black as well.


ya they can do whatever they want, but they have nobody to blame but themselves if people think they are racist little molestation victims


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Great Scott said:
Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


And Representative Democracies are better, because the tyranny of a minority is preferable?


Neither. America's governing principles were designed to protect the rights of the individual.


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Great Scott] * 2
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Great Scott said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Great Scott said:
Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


And Representative Democracies are better, because the tyranny of a minority is preferable?


Neither. America's governing principles were designed to protect the rights of the individual.


Is that why we have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners? America's governing principles were designed to protect the rights of property owners, and capitalists.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Great Scott said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Great Scott said:
Pure democracies don't work because all you're left with is a tyranny of the majority.


And Representative Democracies are better, because the tyranny of a minority is preferable?


Neither. America's governing principles were designed to protect the rights of the individual.


Is that why we have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners? America's governing principles were designed to protect the rights of property owners, and capitalists.


The protection of individual rights is the protection of minority rights, since everyone is ultimately a minority of one. This is meant to prevent the majority from violating the rights of the minority.

So you don't believe in property rights? I agree with you on the incarceration rates being too high, but that's not an invalidation of the importance of protecting individual rights.

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Great Scott]
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Great Scott said:
The protection of individual rights is the protection of minority rights, since everyone is ultimately a minority of one. This is meant to prevent the majority from violating the rights of the minority.


You were essentially saying that Democracy is like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner, and that a representative democracy is better, because it is not governed by the tyranny of the majority. So I asked you if you think the tyranny of the minority (elected officials, and one could argue the financial elite in our society) is better.

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So you don't believe in property rights? I agree with you on the incarceration rates being too high, but that's not an invalidation of the importance of protecting individual rights.


I think property rights is an interesting topic, for another time. I said that our government was designed to protect the rights of property owners, because back in the day, property owners were the only ones who could vote, and black people and women couldn't vote. The designers of our government didn't have personal liberty for everyone in mind, when they designed our government.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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People lack vision.  Me too.  Somehow we lost that ability.  Food food food, sleep sleep sleep.

America had a lot of vision.  It's assumed the elite have more vision.  I think the burdens been hatd on them.  So many wars, they risk a lot.

Imagine risking billions?

That's the security in democracy.  But humans over think things far too much.


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In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods] * 3
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koods said:
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apparently not even the black face stuff at Covington was legit. It's a color theme, as seen by all their clothes being black as well.


ya they can do whatever they want, but they have nobody to blame but themselves if people think they are racist little molestation victims


It took you hours to come up with this weak reply :lol: It's kind of funny how often you out yourself as a shitty person while trying to show you compassionate you are with your constant use of buzzwords. Actually using molestation victims as a slur. You're twisted. You and wooof deserve a few slaps to the face more than these kids you guys want to see be assaulted.




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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Eminence] * 1
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Omg please stop with the fabricated moral outrage. It’s a joke about young catholic school boys who like to get mostly naked in public and cover their irresistible bodies in blackpaint. You can hardly blame the priests for wanting a piece of that action. It’s the Catholic way. If you didn’t want to get molested, why would you go to a catholic school.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/28/19 10:36 AM)

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: koods]
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Hey now, I was a catholic boy that swam in barely anything for a long long time.

Got raped at age 5 changing out of one of those too.

It's got nothing to do with religion, just the mundane.  Kids aren't responsible for their out of control magic powers.

Boredom for a young'n is fear.

But yes it's easy to be hard on those we feel closer to.


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In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: Humans of the Left Are Delusional [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
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It might have a lot to do with religion when they have been caught red handed for decades and did nothing but enable more rape. I couldn't imagine being raped at a catholic swim session and not feeling it had any connection with the religion.

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