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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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Mr_Mushrooms said:
What prayer is and how it works.



I'm not sure about everybody else, but I would be really interested in some elucidation in this area.. Care to share?



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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: 2Experimental]
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>Although I have to say, self experimentation is becoming valid proof for me lately in the areas out of sciences grasp.
-So, outside of objectivity you will use moody introspective reasoning? As long as subjectivity doesn't take precedence over opbjectivity, you can be sure that what you know isn't existing only in the mind; illusory. Of course, I don't think there are too many things that science isn't able to prove or at least explain. Welcome back to reality, please enjoy your stay!

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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Dear science,

Please explain to me the function and purpose of all densities and dimensions, and the overall reason of life for humans on the planet Earth at this time.

Thank you greatly
Love, Shroomism


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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>well sure, you can compare your experiences with others, but if u dont find shit out for yourself, how u gonna KNOW things? why the hell should you take someone elses word for it?
-I almost wish you had followed your own advice because you would not have devloped communication skills. Experimenting with which plants are edible and which will are not would take up much of your life, which thanks to the lack of medicine would be cut short, and you'd never learn to make clothes or build a fire (which you wouldn't have much use for anyways since you wouldn't be catching meat anyways) Sure, you might find a few moments in your life, such as in dreaming and fever delerium, where reality deteriorates into illusion... you might then "know" a few things and have a vague concept of god, which at that point you'd beg for death, but it would be all in the mind and not any real truth.

Take the hate and flames to OTD, or better yet, don't generate them at all.


Personally, I don't subscribe to modern mythology... ritual recitation of verbal charms or spells to produce a magic effect has no part in my life.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: Swami]
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Now you are not only reading something that was not written (not a sign of being present-minded), but are conflating empathy with superstition.



Swami, perhaps you have a better way to express empathy and you would be willing to share. Suprise me, offer something instead of destroying.


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: Shroomism]
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Is this merely a social nicety and expression of concern or is there some deeper mystical power being applied?
I choose "social nicety." It's a considerate thing to say that offers some comfort (but it eventually sounds like verbal diarrhea).

What exactly would someone pray for after a fatal tragedy? That the survivors eventually feel better? Isn't that inevitable? And if the tragedy is potentially fatal...there's a correct way to pray to curve God's will?

Mr. Mushroom, I'm genuinely interested in your explanation...got a summary of it or a link?


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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:rolleyes:  i am talking about things that cant be experimented accurately, non material shit.  i dont see why your acting like you didnt know that, well yeah i do, you just wanted to piss all over my post.  and i aint hatin, just saying my piece.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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>fuck saying anything
>people like this asshole.
-I found these words hateful. Even now, faced with the originator's assertation that my interpratation was false, I can make a point; subjectivity leads to conflict.

>you just wanted to piss all over my post.
-But I wasn't hating, I was only saying my piece.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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so im the hater because i was hated on, why dont you tell him not to be starting shit then, he was an asshole for that, he asked to be called one, really.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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Let's dissolve this pissing contest, guys, and keep the discussion topic-related.


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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I don't think there are too many things that science isn't able to prove or at least explain.



People have been saying that and then been proved wrong on a regular basis for centuries. You really think we wont discover things beyond your wildest imaginings in the next couple of centuries?


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: GazzBut]
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You really think we wont discover things beyond your wildest imaginings in the next couple of centuries?

No, I'm quite sure we will discover things beyond our current wildest drams in the next couple centuries! I'm also quite sure that science will be there to help give an explanation, when we do discover these things :wink:


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: Swami]
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I would say that "my thoughts and prayers are with you" is, in most cases, simply a social nicety these days, Swami. It's an expression of empathy, towards a person who is obviously feeling sad from their current situation. Saying something like this is another way of saying "Hey, I know how you feel and I'm sorry that you have to feel this way right now. I hope you will feel better soon."


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: trendal]
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Im sure it will! Its a fairly limiting mindset to think that our current level of science has the ability to explain everything.


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: GazzBut]
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Bingo! 5 Shrooms for you :wink:


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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Dear science,
Please explain to me the function and purpose of all densities and dimensions, and the overall reason of life for humans on the planet Earth at this time.


Science does not address questions such as why things exist or what "higher reasons" organisms for. Science explains how natural phenomena occur.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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Kottonmouth said:
well sure, you can compare your experiences with others, but if u dont find shit out for yourself, how u gonna KNOW things? why the hell should you take someone elses word for it?.


I don't always take people's word for their conclusions. If someone wants to convince me of a conclusion, they must support evidence (data).

I do consider the possibility that others may falsify their data.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: Phencyclidine]
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I do consider the possibility that others may falsify their data.


your right, they do, and i think that is complete bullshit and unnecessary. what you may think is completely made up nonsense, could be truth for them that they have found. Everybody is on their own level of understanding, as we are all on our own paths, but to the same thing, love.

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: ]
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>we are all on our own paths, but to the same thing, love.
-Hitler was leading his nation to love?

What about when someone prays to satan to bring harm to an enemy of there's, is that love also?

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Re: My thoughts and prayers are with you... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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no, that was just reaching out for it

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