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Pins too dry?
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Hey guys, its my first grow and I am not sure if I need to up the humidity. Pins to my untrained eye are looking kinda dry? What do you think?


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber] * 1
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Don't worry too much about the humidity, that only really controls how fast moisture evaporates; you need to mist the surface gently when it looks dry, and those pins are looking dry atm

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shroomspective]
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Thanks! Going for a mist now.

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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They look fine to me.

If u think the white flake substancr on the caps is a sign of being dry, u are mistaken. Its a physical characteristic of the species.

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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Update today. Still not sure what is going on, if there is a lack/too much of fae, lack/over of humidity in the cakes.. Any tips will be really helpful:





Thanks

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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Lol yeah just keep making duplicate threads until someone tells you the answer you want to hear!

FYI guys he has a layer of "soaked" uncolonized coir in the bottom of his tub for no reason (I'm guessing he thinks it's like perlite).
He also said in the other thread he was misting daily before even getting a flush.

I think you should read a good modern Tek like bods and just follow it to the letter before experimenting with crazyness like uncolonized soaked coir.


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: 2in1] * 1
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It’s called a humidity chamber butt munch. You can use just about anything moist in your chamber (including a soaked towel) to creat RH. It’s a new Tek out there that’s supposedly suppose to work better than a sgfc. I’ve yet to try it because I don’t run cakes anymore, but I hear good things about it.

OP don’t stress. Your pins are looking fine. Just make sure to mist lightly, let evap, mist lightly, let evap, etc.. Pins have a tendency to look white/dry at first, but as they mature you’ll get your classic cubensis look.

Just don’t overmist because you think they are to dry.. if your cake was dry it would be bruising blue.

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadHatter333] * 1
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Yo 2in1 I don't like making multiple posts, I had this one open yesterday and I just posted the updated pics here to focus on the pins themselves not the chamber in total. And I did follow the tek btw. If someone could comment on how the pins themselves look and maybe help me on what they need, it would be really helpful.

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadHatter333]
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It's called retarded and pointless.
I have a couple of small trays in a monotub and I only need to mist the walls twice a week max to maintain humidity.

If you were going to do it you would use perlite, but even that is pointless, it just adds additional contamination vectors, buttmunch.


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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I edited my post OP. Check it ^


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: 2in1]
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2in1 said:
It's called retarded and pointless.
I have a couple of small trays in a monotub and I only need to mist the walls twice a week max to maintain humidity.

If you were going to do it you would use perlite, but even that is pointless, it just adds additional contamination vectors, buttmunch.



Lol! Perlite doesn’t add vectors you dum dum.. there’s no nutrients in perlite for vectors to attach to. So before you go bashing on other techniques that are not your own do some research..


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadHatter333]
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Thanks MadHatter, in some pics you can see some blue bruising, but only in the parts of overgrown myc on the top part. That could be throwing me off too. Here:



And on the one pin itself right underneath the cap to the right I see a small blue spot:



Have you seen stems split like this before?

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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That’s just some minor bruising, nothing to work yourself up about. Just make sure when you mist you’re letting the mist fall on to your cakes to get a nice glistening look. Let that evaporate for a while till your cake is mostly not glistening anymore then repeat step one.

The splitting is probably due to to much moisture. Or it could be a rarer case of verticillium. Sometimes it can be genetics too.

How much fresh air are you giving them?


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadHatter333]
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This is how I have my tubs normally, and after I mist, I fan with the lid for 30s. Seems like things are looking more blue than a couple of hours ago. I dunno, to me it looks as though the mycelium overgrowth is no allowing moisture to fall properly on the cake. Shall I cut it off? Here are some pics taken right now:


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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I had some of that overgrowth before on my first cakes. Didn’t cause any trouble for me. In fact shrooms grew from those spots.



Your lid looks cracked enough. Not sure why the blueing is getting worse. Looks like you have a nice glisten on your surface already. May be because those spots are not covered in vermiculite so they are more prone to bruising.


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadHatter333]
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I'm using Mateah's HC tek too and it took me a bit to dial in the correct humidity. I'm using wicking cloth for an evaporative surface instead of coir. What I noticed in your tub pic above is that the sides are very clear. Are you getting any condensation on the inside walls of the tub? I just got the humidity to a point where I was getting a bit of condensation on the walls and the cakes started looking moist. Had to mist 2x/day the first couple of days. Now it seems to be holding itself steady. Just started pinning so I should know more in the next couple days. My first pins look pretty much like yours though. The only thing I've seen around the forum is that fanning is not recommended. Just opening the lid is enough.


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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: MadValley]
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Thanks for the reply guys, I'll post an update tomorrow morning. The glisten is mostly seen on the overgrowth, the cake themselves don't really have much moisture on the cake surface if it makes sense. The condensation on the walls is leaving, the first 4-5 days there was much more condensation. I'm getting scared to mist now from people saying its drenched? Doesn't seem like that to me tho.. :confused:

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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The OP’s blocks are very bacterial and in stale conditions. Need more FAE. Pseudomonas is already setting up shop, there is much necrosis in progress.

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Thanks for the info Pastywhyte! I just googled what Pseudomonas are, had no clue. Should I angle the lid more so that it is more open in the corners? Any tips to increase fae with the humidity chamber tek? Its currently 0C (32F) outside, leaving the window open is gonna freeze the room really fast. It's my first grow I want to salvage/optimise whatever I can!

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Re: Pins too dry? [Re: Shr00merN00ber]
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Maybe try keeping the lid open for a good solid while, 3-6 hours in a open area. I’m afraid once things start getting to bacterial it can be hard to reverse. I recommend keeping a eye on them and ease up on the misting until you’ve given them time to recover.

Look out for anything suspect like different colors (green/pink). Next step after bacteria is usually mold. You will probably still be able to get a good solid flush out of those, if not two.

Listen to what Pastywhyte says for sure though. He knows more than most.

:goodluck:


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